Yeah, Trump getting COVID was an extremely funny "fucking around" > "finding out" thing that could encourage people to try to take COVID more seriously.
There appears to be zero possible upside here whatsoever with Abe's assassination.
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Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
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Yeah, Trump getting COVID was an extremely funny "fucking around" > "finding out" thing that could encourage people to try to take COVID more seriously.
There appears to be zero possible upside here whatsoever with Abe's assassination.
Then we remove people like this from office and keep them out. We don't shrug over an assassination. Yeah maybe it's better he's gone but being murdered on the street is not the way to do it.
Nothing good will come out of this assassination so there's nothing to "cheer" for. Abe will become even bigger in death.
Same for Trump, covid taking him out would be one thing but an assassination would immortalize Trumpism like nothing else.
Same for Trump, covid taking him out would be one thing but an assassination would immortalize Trumpism like nothing else.
He was a despicable monster that didn't deserve a long life or a peaceful end, but it wasn't worth the risk of him getting martyred and having to throw your life away to do it. Really irritating to see people tripping over themselves to honor such a shitty person as a result, ugh.
like this. holy shit hilary fuck off.
like this. holy shit hilary fuck off.
gozu I can't quote you because Era on Safari acts weird on pages with Content Warning Tweets
It's one thing to express concern about the future implications of all this, but I really struggle to muster any sympathy for the man himself. Dude was a 10/10 shitbag and it's corny to go softball on him because he's dead now.
So true Hillary. Everyone be sure to read up on Shinzo Abe's stance on comfort women to get the run-down on this Woke King's progressive views
It's one thing to express concern about the future implications of all this, but I really struggle to muster any sympathy for the man himself. Dude was a 10/10 shitbag and it's corny to go softball on him because he's dead now.
So true Hillary. Everyone be sure to read up on Shinzo Abe's stance on comfort women to get the run-down on this Woke King's progressive views
Yes, Japan is pretty much a somewhat less authoritarian Singapore, with the right-wing LDP having had power for most of the post-WWII era.
That said, like the GOP, the LDP largely keeps its hold on politics via gerrymandering that favours less-populated rural areas, and the opposition's discord/voting apathy.
These people love eulogizing monsters
View: https://twitter.com/tedcruzcontrol/status/1545416593622138880?t=UhzSwcokkMAQj4EHmkN1gw&s=19
i dont think anyone is saying this is how it should have gone down
oh so its not just me. safari is driving me crazy with this thread
The fact that people are normalizing a political assassination in this thread shows just how terribly the internet has poisoned political discourse.
Did I agree to any of Abes policies? Hell nah, but that doesn't change the fact that an assassination of a democratically elected PM is just as much of an attack on democracy as January 6th.
It would be one thing if Japan was some authoritarian state with no representation, but this whole attack is completely anti-democratic in nature and should not be rejoiced by anyone who values basic democracy.
Did I agree to any of Abes policies? Hell nah, but that doesn't change the fact that an assassination of a democratically elected PM is just as much of an attack on democracy as January 6th.
It would be one thing if Japan was some authoritarian state with no representation, but this whole attack is completely anti-democratic in nature and should not be rejoiced by anyone who values basic democracy.
Definitely not racist that you got a shot in at China while asking us to mourn a racist nationalist.
It's not racist. They do not have a democracy.
I did edit it out though since I thought about it and, you're right, it was better without conflating it with that.
Oh no, I don't endorse assassinations. I just express no sympathy to the situation.
Indifference really.
The Yu-Gi-Oh creator on the other hand, may he rest in peace.
Does she know that his journalist friend raped his coworker?
Shiori Itō - Wikipedia
Yeah it's been like this a couple days. Era Admin said they're working on it
while you maybe right, that is a whole seperate level of concern than the fact of the matter right now. just because he passed doesn't mean I can't say Abe was a shit person with shitty ideals he didn't apologize for.
They'd all lipservice mourn if Trump was assassinated too, to be honest. There is definitely a column A ("democratically elected" allies of the west) vs column B ("enemies") category of eulogy that happens should any one leader be assassinated when it comes to world leaders and diplomatic reactions.
This is 100% on the money. Leaders in the imperial core get to be "complicated" and people too no matter how monstrous they were. The global south is allowed no such nuance, its leaders are all mustache twirling supervillains.
Also Japan is only really a democracy in name only. But don't let that stop people going on about how evil China is in a thread about a dead racist.
They were right to call me out, my post was not clear enough to rule out the possibility of being provocative.
It's important for the health of the forum to separate the trolls from the unaware.
Right lol. People just don't care that it happened and it's inevitable someone like that will make enough enemies for it to be a strong strong possibility.
Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
Ultranationalists should be shotgunned to death
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Eh, you found one person that got banned. Not sure that's worthy of side-eyeing the whole forum like Bengraven was sayingFormer Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
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I think I already read Japan is possibly going to disallow anything resembling a firearm in public? Apparently it's not unheard of for amateur reporters to craft makeshift camera levers using airsoft gun parts, to the point its possible everyone assumed this dude was just using a homemade camcorder to film this famous guy.
I bought it up but some of those almost look like toy guns you see in shows.Weapons they're finding in the shooter's home are all just really wild handmade pipeguns.
Stuff looks absolutely bonkers, 9 & 5 barreled shotguns.
I think I already read Japan is possibly going to disallow anything resembling a firearm in public? Apparently it's not unheard of for amateur reporters to craft makeshift camera levers using airsoft gun parts, to the point its possible everyone assumed this dude was just using a homemade camcorder to film this famous guy.
My comment was to point out the hypocrisy - the level that people will go to defending corrupt politicians.
I'm not cheering for a politician's death, but I don't blame others for doing it. They have their personal justifications eg. denying atrocities against ethnic groups, not taking pandemic seriously that killed families etc.
and rightfully banned?Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
Ultranationalists should be shotgunned to death
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I'm not super comfortable with the politisphere going out of its way to paper over Abe's horrible policy decisions and political stances, even if I understand it's basic political decorum. I just wish some of them didn't seem like they were taking so much glee in it. Like you can say what you're basically mandated to say without writing a mini-essay pretending Abe was a great man.
To be honest, if that happened to Trump I would be far, far more concerned about what his supporters would start doing in the aftermath.
Trump being assassinated would've been absolutely horrible because his fans would've gone nuts...even more nuts.
And people would try and martyr him...uh even moreso.
Plus I hate the idea of innocent bystanders having to witness something horrible like this. Definitely hope they recover from this trauma and can regain their peace of mind.
And people would try and martyr him...uh even moreso.
Plus I hate the idea of innocent bystanders having to witness something horrible like this. Definitely hope they recover from this trauma and can regain their peace of mind.
I get what you mean but it's hard to reconcile that it's an attack on democracy as Abe himself was an ultranationalist fascist member of Nippon Kaigi and a monarchist.
Obviously, I don't think this is a good thing to have happened. It's absolutely not.
I'm not surprised by this. Politicians in the U.S. are always eager to lionize facists/ultranationalists, as long as said facists/ultranationalists are allies to the U.S. See: Israel.
I mean, at the end Abe is a murderer with a much higher body count, so the amounts of shits I give are remarkably little.
DemocracyNow has a good interview on the assassination up with a university professor who previously wrote an NYT op-ed (correctly imo) comparing Abe to Trump.
Some notable bits:
The stuff about the government offering a "reinterpretation" of the constitution that happens to align with his political views as a way to get around not having the majority to pass law changes the normal way definitely sounds familiar.
The original article:
www.nytimes.com
Shinzo Abe Assassination: Will Killing Push Japan Further to the Right?
Japan’s former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has died at the age of 67 after being fatally shot while delivering a speech Friday in the western city of Nara. Abe, the longest-serving prime minister in Japan’s history, was campaigning for a parliamentary election Friday and had a security detail...
www.democracynow.org
Some notable bits:
The stuff about the government offering a "reinterpretation" of the constitution that happens to align with his political views as a way to get around not having the majority to pass law changes the normal way definitely sounds familiar.
The original article:
Opinion | The Leader Who Was ‘Trump Before Trump’ (Published 2019)
Under Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Japan has taken a decidedly authoritarian turn.
A true "champion of democracy" right there.
Absolutely, I was only speaking for the people I had personally spoken to about the incident at the time.
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Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
Ultranationalists should be shotgunned to death
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I didn't see that and yes that is horrible but does that mean that one poster's view is indicative of their opinion about the whole forum? and besides that was actioned as well.
That's also ironic coming from Deepwater, who was a bit easier on Putin and Ukraine!
Yeah I'm not happy about it either even NPR glossed over the WW2 stuff
If Trump had died of covid I'm 100% sure a conspiracy about how covid was made up and "they" are just trying to cover the "assassination" up.
His death won't help the political climate in japan which was already bad.
The only thing one can hope for is that people will keep bringing up the bad points, japan will very likley just default to valorizing him like Mother Teresa. Who knows what a bit of distance will do, but right now it's the "gotta be civil and nice" part of things.
That one weekend we all thought Trump had actually passed from covid was wild
Trump will be "immortalized" no matter how he dies. The fucker could keel over from a heart attack on the toilet after shitting too hard and his base will still think it was an assassination.
Nobody is say that policians should be assassinated. Some of us just don't find the need to go " rip" and pretend like his legacy is a clean one.
It's practically impossible to vote out people like Shinzo Abe, when he comes from political royalty. His grand father was also Prime minister once. And his party has held majority power for decades.
Please point out in my post where I advocated for people to be shotgunned to death?
I pointed out that Abe isn't some great loss to the world because he's a disgusting person. The person we quoted was also nice enough to realize the mistake and gave an apology. It's all the more transparent when you jumped to accuse others of advocating murder.
View: https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1545401081542443008
I'm still recovering from what I am seeing here. She not only accidentally made an edgy joke, she accidentally made a pretty decent edgy joke.