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French late show Quotidien told Trump to go "F*** Yourself".
- Thread starter Kylo Rey
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Are you asking if a foreign television star calling out our President is good for us? I mean, it isn't bad for us. Nor good for us. Americans who support trump will say they don't care what another country thinks, and Americans who don't support trump will either not care or agree with the tv host.
I am fully aware that the current US President is an international embarrassment and disaster. It sucks. Hopefully we'll fix it in two years as a nation.
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it's more about the "a tv show host shouldn't insult a president" than saying "fuck" to trump actually.
It's more about the "Yann Barthes have a huge position on media and it was quite shocking for some"
I feel bad for op because for me it wasn't "smart" to make this thread
comedians gonna joke, it's not like Macron is out there posting diss tracks
Why do you feel bad for this comedian though? Do you think he'd get in trouble over this?
In any case, I don't know this program or this comedian/host but I applaud them for not pulling punches. Qu'il aille se faire foutre, en effet.
By the way, American comedians like on the Daily Show, Full Frontal or Last Week Tonight routinely tell Trump to fuck off, too.
So it is rooted in a desire to sublimate conflict into euphemism, and so keep things "safe" from the truth
Gotcha
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Thanks but i can clearly see many here thinking i'm a pro-trump or a dumbass just because i m..."too good?" to felt bad for the host because he went on the "fuck yourself" route.
THIS is what i don't like on internet discussion today. The mannicheism.
"OP are you mad? The BAD SIDE? WHAT? HEY HITLER MAN! DON'T REMEMBER????"
i mean come on...calm down...I felt bad for my favorite late show to do this.
It was smart to do this. More people should be calling out Trump for what he is. He had two years to earn respect and he's doubled down on being the worst kind of person.
We need more people with the courage to say fuck Trump publicly.
This is cracking me up. lol
Nothing could happen to or be said to him that he doesn't deserve a hundred times over.
Shitting on him in the worse possible way, which is usually basic observations, is a noble goal for all humans. It's a moral imperative.
Just wait till the quarter pounders catch up. If you're clutching pearls at the heat this hole is getting while it lives, the global celebrations will blow your mind.
Oh no. Trump is gonna cry into a huge pile of money in the White House today.
I feel so bad for him. Or whatever it is OP actually meant
I feel so bad for him. Or whatever it is OP actually meant
I'm just gonna go ahead and blame language barriers for this. Most of the time i think I know what you are talking about, but clearly you feel misunderstood but aren't able to fully explain how or why.
Oh, wait. If it's more about a tv show shouldn't insult a President then man you must hate satire.
Regardless, I disagree. If you want to go on about freedom of speech in a more malleable sense then the idea of protecting people in positions of power is ludicrous. People are idiots. Whatever title they may hold does not show that they earned it, deserved it or are qualified for it. I don't think you can seperate the person from the position, anyway.
Regardless, I disagree. If you want to go on about freedom of speech in a more malleable sense then the idea of protecting people in positions of power is ludicrous. People are idiots. Whatever title they may hold does not show that they earned it, deserved it or are qualified for it. I don't think you can seperate the person from the position, anyway.
Man I have been trying to engage you on the issue of conflict avoidance on TV and the problems therein and you just over here doin this...
Uh oh...my thread isn't going well...what should I do?
I know! I'll make my bad argument bigger and bolder!!!
OP are you concerned about the Tv host stance from an American or French point of view?
Because guaranteed that most Americans won't care about this. Trump supporters don't care at all how he is viewed by others. Democrats and liberals don't care either and actually agree with the statement.
Because guaranteed that most Americans won't care about this. Trump supporters don't care at all how he is viewed by others. Democrats and liberals don't care either and actually agree with the statement.
Stop you're scaring me with your incivility. Can't we just day something nice about Trump?
That way we don't upset anyone for future elections
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Some people directly told me about Hitler or Bolsonaro. Wtf?
I'm saying that i don't know if it's good to insult him. I don't feel bad for trump, i don't care about him.
I'm just saying that seeing my favorite late show going on this...i was like ".....ok...????" I mean they could deal with Trump in another way.
Seems fine to me.
I'm not sure if you watch the American late nite shows like Colbert, Meyers, or Oliver, but they regularly refer to Trump as incompetent, corrupt, criminal, racist, sexually attracted to his own daughter, a puppet of Putin, etc. That's worse than "fuck you, you're not welcome." Since he is the American president, Americans can't very well say, "you're not welcome."
Also, US politicians pedalled a soft-boycott of France during the Iraq war, and started calling French fries "Freedom fries," so I don't see a "fuck you, you're not welcome" as especially harsh.
I'm not sure if you watch the American late nite shows like Colbert, Meyers, or Oliver, but they regularly refer to Trump as incompetent, corrupt, criminal, racist, sexually attracted to his own daughter, a puppet of Putin, etc. That's worse than "fuck you, you're not welcome." Since he is the American president, Americans can't very well say, "you're not welcome."
Also, US politicians pedalled a soft-boycott of France during the Iraq war, and started calling French fries "Freedom fries," so I don't see a "fuck you, you're not welcome" as especially harsh.
I don't give a damn what position you have, church or state, if you are a horrible person I'd tell you to fuck off and would encourage others to do the same. I see no issue here
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This is the dark side?
Pretty sure our politicians are cursing him out behind the scenes when the cameras aren't on. And they are all right, Donald Trump can rightly so go fuck himself.
And the people who voted for him can do so as well. That's how much I give a shit that he was "elected".
Pretty sure our politicians are cursing him out behind the scenes when the cameras aren't on. And they are all right, Donald Trump can rightly so go fuck himself.
And the people who voted for him can do so as well. That's how much I give a shit that he was "elected".
Not that I disagree with telling elected officials to go fuck themselves but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machtergreifung
So what way do you think that "another way" would be then, if directness and frank language is something you consider too strong a response for basic television?
You have to be seriously sheltered if you think telling a wannabe authoritarian to go fuck himself is "going to the dark side."
The idealism some of you have is so out of whack, I don't get it.
The idealism some of you have is so out of whack, I don't get it.
It was a jab at everybody today who keeps the kiddie gloves on for Trump and republicans.. for some reason people think this is a good idea. I'm tired of this shit
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well CSA was called (CSA = is kinda the "police media" that intervene if there is discrimination or bad stuff on tv).
I think i was misunderstood.
I shouldn't have done this topic. Now Era will see me as a republican or worse...
when i was just thinking that using Trump "rhetoric" weapon with insult, against him, didn't seem to me a good idea because i thought we need to show constantly that we are WAY more smart than him.
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Well i'm not in America so i created this topic to see if it's happen often and if it's good.
That's it.
You really shouldn't have to worry about that. If anything the fact that you are still worried about common decency shows you're anti-everything they are.
The rest of us have just dropped that, too tired to be civil anymore with these fuckers. Kinda having adopted a less "When they go low, we go high" and more a "When they go low, we grab them by the head and knee them in the face."
The fact is that we need to deal with trump in EVERY way. That includes calling him out on television. Late night shows are supposed to be entertainment and humorous before being informative news programs, so I'm not surprised that hosts have taken to harshly calling him out like this.
Trump is a bad person, and a bad leader. He has actively harmed people in many ways, and shown a blatant disregard for humanity in general. I do not find it a problem when a person says "fuck trump". It may even improve the host's notoriety, to be honest.
Just telling someone to go fuck themselves doesn't imply that the person giving the insult is stupid.
This idea that the only way to higher moral ground is to never, ever, speak from elevated emotion is ridiculous.
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what they do everyday. Make fun stuff about him because of what he DO. Not doing it ourselves.
Thursday they talked a lot about the journalist issue last week with the white house saying that it was a bad journalist that hurt a woman by not letting her taking the mic.
So Quotidien show how ridiculous they are because it was fake news, the journalist even said "excuse me" to the woman, he never touched her and then they showed footage of every time Trump didn't respect womens.
That's smart.
Doesn't mean he deserves respect. He's a racist, a misogynist, a homophobe, he lies habitually, he panders to extremists, uses dangerous rethoric against minorities, the press, political opponents etc., he's uneducated, ignorant and lazy. He has no idea what he's doing, if he wasn't born rich he wouldn't even be allowed to run a 10 year old's lemonade stand while the kids goes inside to pee for three minutes.
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