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GamerGate 2.0? Chuds furious about a consulting company named “Sweet Baby Inc” which overviews scripts to make sure nothing offensive was written
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can't have unions. that'd be woke.
only technofeudalism will save us.
/s please don't ban me
Saying that you disagree with their scaling is fine, but it also doesn't do much to change the fact that Comicsgate is a far right hate group and news sources tying themselves to Comicsgate are going to be far right new sources.This website says center news organizations like CNN and NBC are "left-wing biased" so I wouldn't take their word for anything.....
CNN - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wordingmediabiasfactcheck.com
NBC News - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording
Maybe so but Bounding into Comics is a legit alt-right rag of a website.This website says center news organizations like CNN and NBC are "left-wing biased" so I wouldn't take their word for anything.....
CNN - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wordingNBC News - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording
First became aware of Sweet Baby when a poster on ERA implied that AW2 was a step down in Remedy's writing quality because of their involvement.
I mean every script has oversights. I worked on a game where all the characters were concepted in-house and then we hired an outside firm to make sure they weren't wearing something culturally offensive, that their accents are correct, etc.
If you can bang out a script with expert-level knowledge about everything contained within with no errors, more power to you. The rest of the games industry is generally not superhuman.
This isn't the first time Asmongold has highlighted and promoted harassment campaigns, this isn't like those anti-woke movie grifter channels who shit on celebrities and Disney, I really hope youtube takes action on his channel and soon.
You can report but it's hard to find (gear button in the "about" tab)
The bias checker site is correct in this case.This website says center news organizations like CNN and NBC are "left-wing biased" so I wouldn't take their word for anything.....
CNN - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wordingNBC News - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording
Reading their website and seeing their partners, it's surprising seeing a few studios there given their histories of pushing back against progressive stuff like women leads and abusing women and POC people in their workforce (Ubisoft is the big example, it's still bothers knowing just how much of AC's Kassandra the devs had to fight for all the while the execs pushing against to the praise and pretended to care about diversity).
Edit: Ah okay, misunderstood their approach page.
I was curious as well to see if this was a case of actual care about representation and diversity or one of cringe worthy corporate types that miss the point like EA's infamous diversity wheel, the recent Avatar remake's Sokka stuff or the Dumbo remake.
Edit: Ah okay, misunderstood their approach page.
Oh Lilith, you made me remember the sheer cringe when the people lost their shit because Spider-Man 1 had pride flags in it (despite that being accurate to New York). These people are truly pathetic.
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Oh, good to know. The mobile app doesn't have any button on the curator page, so I'll try it on desktop.
how to say you've never played Alan Wake 2 without saying you've never played Alan Wake 2
This is all very oh we found a new all-purpose boogeyman to blame everything on. Anita Sarkeesian used to be responsible for ruining gaming but that's old news now. Everything I don't like is now the fault of this one consulting firm! 😤
these dudes seriously need to find themselves a real personality outside of getting angry over pointless shit online.
It's not simple to report this group because technically its not doing anything other than saying that Sweet Baby worked on whatever game. It's for unsavory reasons, but no rules are being broken with that. Idk though i'm just guessing that's why it hasn't been banned.
Sorry, but no. NO. NO.
I am a gamer. I have been a gamer for a very long time, of boardgame, tabletop games, real life games, and yes videogames. I am not alone, there's between one and two billion of us.
And "woke" has nothing do with with being a gamer*. "Woke" has become, at best, "whatever dumb and extremist right wing conservatives don't agree with this week but can't explain why". Nothing to do with gamers, or videogames, or gaming in general.
*: ok if we want to get über technical, gaming has been associated with increase in some areas of intelligence, maybe-ish; which would help very basic awareness including social awareness, which is the original definition of woke. But unfortunately, that's not how the word is used nowadays.
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Traditional media outlets like CNN and NBC being "left wing biased" is an alt-right myth perpetuated by literal Nazis.
This is nothing particularly new, just part of the endless, tireless, paranoid raging about "wokeness" in games. They've just found a specific entity to direct their frothing at instead of attributing it to some vague conspiracy.
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I didn't mean to offend with that paragraph. I'm sorry if it did, but to me. The generalization of the term "gamer" is becoming more and more like the type of person to be mad at this type of stuff, no matter how bad that sounds.
"Bias" in the actual grown up sense is something that every single news organization on Earth has. It's the natural result of people having opinions and experiences and those inevitably colouring their expression. Stating what the stance a publication aligns with isn't automatically a condemnation; people often choose publications because they know it falls more in line with their own stances.
At this point, I long for the day that games are so "woke" that Gamers™ just abandon them entirely so I don't have to keep seeing new manufactured rage bait and these chuds harassing companies/people over the perceived transgressions... but sadly I don't see that day ever coming.
My favorite part is the fact they probably won't ever enter this thread to elaborate on this, despite it being obvious how they feel now.
I first learned of these type of alt right losers in Suicide Squad. A lot of them posting in the steam forums saying the game went "woke therefore broke". There reasoning is as follows (keeping vague for spoiler reasons). Many of the posts point to sweet baby inc. as having ruined rocksteady.
1. slightly less sexualized harley quinn
2. woman character grabs male's butt, so it's an "attack on men" and a double standard
3. Several Male character deaths are treated worse compared to a female character's death which was more heroic
4. Deadshot is a black character in suicide squad, but was white in previous games (my note: this is explained as new deadshot claiming the old was an imposter and it fits the story)
5. Some shit about Ivy being a child which I can't logically explain (I think people are projecting some fucked up shit basically)
Just glancing at steam forums there are still 5+ sweet baby inc. threads, not even counting the "woke" accusation threads. I thought about posting a screenshot, but I'll just link one instead. https://steamcommunity.com/app/315210/discussions/0/3944650462442358838/
Accuses Remedy of changing Saga Anderson from white to black because of "woke". Really dumb fucking people out there.
1. slightly less sexualized harley quinn
2. woman character grabs male's butt, so it's an "attack on men" and a double standard
3. Several Male character deaths are treated worse compared to a female character's death which was more heroic
4. Deadshot is a black character in suicide squad, but was white in previous games (my note: this is explained as new deadshot claiming the old was an imposter and it fits the story)
5. Some shit about Ivy being a child which I can't logically explain (I think people are projecting some fucked up shit basically)
Just glancing at steam forums there are still 5+ sweet baby inc. threads, not even counting the "woke" accusation threads. I thought about posting a screenshot, but I'll just link one instead. https://steamcommunity.com/app/315210/discussions/0/3944650462442358838/
Accuses Remedy of changing Saga Anderson from white to black because of "woke". Really dumb fucking people out there.
Are you assuming what's in my mind?…next your going to assume my gender?
Yes but the traditional media, barring rags like Fox News, are absolutely center if not slightly right-wing biased. They are far from left-wing
If you don't say what it is or just leave, a lot of people are going to assume a lot more. You created this mystery, you shouldn't be surprised that people start to wonder.
Yup, but I'm also strongly against that.
It's not based in any factual foundation, and it's used by both press and gaming industry people as a way to demean, dismiss and manipulate their customers. To say it simply, it's a wrong stereotype, and it doesn't help us to perpetuate it; especially on text where there is no tone to color the word.
Seems like an okay company to me. If you're serious about being inclusive, it probably helps to get fresh eyes on a project to make sure you didn't miss anything. And it's not like the developers are obliged to do what SBI is telling them anyway. They're just consultants, really.
Some people really get riled up at the stupidest shit.
Some people really get riled up at the stupidest shit.
Why is that site (Media bias fact check) treating centralism or being in the middle of the left and right as "least biased", Centralism is still a bias and not inherently a good thing since it can often push the status quo and shut down progressive ideas.I think it's a Comicsgate-associated site?
Bounding Into Comics - Bias and Credibility
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
These sorts of consultants are pretty common throughout all media. Even books, which represent far smaller investments for the publisher than (say) a major motion picture, have sensitivity readers.
Yes, it would be better if all script writers never ever made mistakes or errors in judgement. But since they do, getting outside eyes on it is valuable. It doesn't just result in less "offensive" stories, I'd argue it results in better stories.
I mean, there's only one reason I can think of why someone would be like "ooh, not sure I want to post what I think about this"
And if you don't want me to assume, you're not exactly becoming forthcoming.
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I think it's bullshit for this curator to exist but I think people are to easily offended in this day and age.
I agree but I also don't see the point in derailing this thread around some weird bias rating site. The point is that Bounding into Comics is in fact a Comicsgate site and is basically the comics equivalent of NicheGamer.
A black person had the audacity to appear in a game trailer or whatever
There it is
Don't let the door hit you on the way out
Oh are the children crying about something they don't understand again? How utterly predictable.
This is literally part of every editing and script review process ever, at least ones competently produced. But not everyone on every writing staff is perfectly aware of how things can be offensive, so you bring in outside consultants to help. But it's very much work that's ongoing in-house all the time.
This is literally part of every editing and script review process ever, at least ones competently produced. But not everyone on every writing staff is perfectly aware of how things can be offensive, so you bring in outside consultants to help. But it's very much work that's ongoing in-house all the time.
you seriously think the company or people that work for it or different game devs probably aren't getting death threats as big as it appears this is blowing up?
I wish these chuds would fuck off to the moon and never come back.
The diversity in gaming stories is what's making games so great today compared to years ago.
The diversity in gaming stories is what's making games so great today compared to years ago.
I thought AW2 writing was fantastic. Skipped through some of spider-man 2's and GoW Ragnorak's dialogue. Found the MK1 story to be pretty boring. This is all my personal critique though and it ends there...not some crazy conspiracy that this group is killing my enjoyment.
Can you actually point the finger at this group for actual writing? Do they act as editors on scripts? I would have assumed they provide some sort of a checklist to ensure there is representation in the game you're making.
Can you actually point the finger at this group for actual writing? Do they act as editors on scripts? I would have assumed they provide some sort of a checklist to ensure there is representation in the game you're making.
This is ridiculous. What job doesn't have a stage where what you're working on isn't peer reviewed. Sensitivity readers been a thing, expert consultants been a thing, like cmon now.
You see them whine and it's hard to imagine these chumps have interacted in society at any capacity. Just thoroughly ignorant on a whole lot of things
You see them whine and it's hard to imagine these chumps have interacted in society at any capacity. Just thoroughly ignorant on a whole lot of things