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Otheradam

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Nov 1, 2017
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Question... I have a Roth IRA account through Vanguard atm, so I believe it's got the $6k a year cap attached to it. Do I have to make a new account through Vanguard in order to do general investing like with GME and whatnot?

Just log in and create a regular brokerage account. You can then transfer in money and buy/sell/trade whatever you want. I was able to buy BB today. Don't think they blocked anything.
 

dreamcast

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Oct 27, 2017
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Mentioned this earlier without a response. Anyone else not seeing GME when using Cash app? Doesn't show up for me at all.
 

Deleted member 46804

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Aug 17, 2018
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Guess who didn't pump money into it? 👋

I'm risk averse and I just invest my money into a boring, slow-growth 401k. Should there be a guy in a suit waiting around the corner to hold my hand and tell me what to do with my money? If people want to invest in GameStop then it's up to them how much research they want before dumping cash in. More power to the people, IMO.
Sure. I'm all for what's happening but at the end of the day most people have no fucking clue what they are doing and the stock will return back to its previous price eventually unless people start treating GameStop like a currency store like BitCoin. There's no actual value to be had and I wouldn't be surprised if there are whales in there that are going to fuck up everyone's day just like crypto. This will end with a few people walking away winners, most losing and a few bankruptcies and possible suicides.
 

Meatfist

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Oct 25, 2017
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This creep above 300 after hours is nice to see

I have no idea what the endgame of this is going to look like - if people with options and shorts are FORCED to buy shares at any price and we go into an upwards death spiral, the bullshit we saw from brokers this morning is going to look small time in comparison
 

HaremKing

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Dec 20, 2018
2,416
Almost doubled from its closing price after hours.

Tomorrow shall be interesting if indeed all those puts have to be collected.
 

Vilam

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Oct 27, 2017
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Question... I have a Roth IRA account through Vanguard atm, so I believe it's got the $6k a year cap attached to it. Do I have to make a new account through Vanguard in order to do general investing like with GME and whatnot?

Yes, you need to open an individual brokerage account with them. That one won't be tied to the limits your retirement accounts have.
 

bounchfx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,664
Muricas
all this ruckus just got me to invest in dogecoin for shits and giggles because honestly it's return looks insane from 1-5 years so far and the newer news is probably only going to drive it up more. only put in a couple of dollars so there's no 'risk' but the payout has potential, anyone else do the same?
 

Gazele

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Oct 25, 2017
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This creep above 300 after hours is nice to see

I have no idea what the endgame of this is going to look like - if people with options and shorts are FORCED to buy shares at any price and we go into an upwards death spiral, the bullshit we saw from brokers this morning is going to look small time in comparison

So...if this ended up bankrupting a hedge fund the broker has to cover the loss right? And if they can't cover what happens?
 

Deleted member 81119

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all this ruckus just got me to invest in dogecoin for shits and giggles because honestly it's return looks insane from 1-5 years so far and the newer news is probably only going to drive it up more. only put in a couple of dollars so there's no 'risk' but the payout has potential, anyone else do the same?
I am thinking of putting a small amount in DOGE, but at the end of the day there's no short situation where we could see a sudden surge. There's no bad guy to defeat. And as far as I can tell, the currency isn't really used very much. So it literally is just the meme-ing driving it. Plus this could well be its lifetime peak, is there ever going to be another DOGE moment? I reckon the pay off will be small.

This is not financial advice. :P
 

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sure. I'm all for what's happening but at the end of the day most people have no fucking clue what they are doing and the stock will return back to its previous price eventually unless people start treating GameStop like a currency store like BitCoin. There's no actual value to be had and I wouldn't be surprised if there are whales in there that are going to fuck up everyone's day just like crypto. This will end with a few people walking away winners, most losing and a few bankruptcies and possible suicides.
This is the part that bums me out, despite the euphoria, energy, and passion driving it.
 

Cyclonesweep

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Oct 29, 2017
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I didn't know much about the stock market but the idea of shorts is absolutely disgusting to me. Let's create money out of nothing and get rich on destroying companies.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
 

Deleted member 46804

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By the way, the risky but correct play is to take out shorts of your own. If the goal is to make the hedge funds pay on their shorts then people will probably bail after. Please note that shorting a stock can fuck up your entire life.
 

bounchfx

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am thinking of putting a small amount in DOGE, but at the end of the day there's no short situation where we could see a sudden surge. There's no bad guy to defeat. And as far as I can tell, the currency isn't really used very much. So it literally is just the meme-ing driving it. Plus this could well be its lifetime peak, is there ever going to be another DOGE moment? I reckon the pay off will be small.

This is not financial advice. :P
you are quite right! this is all correct, except we don't know how the payout would be, and it is not really driven by anything other than memes, which while I look away in disgust at the memes of today compared to the ytmnd's and success kid's of my day, I know they are a strong driving factor for at least 42.0% of the population. plus I guess I just wanted to give it a shot since it was like 3 cents, haha! but yes I'm certainly very interested to see where the GME/etc situation winds up (tomorrow?). what a wild ride.
 

Lobster Roll

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Sep 24, 2019
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I didn't know much about the stock market but the idea of shorts is absolutely disgusting to me. Let's create money out of nothing and get rich on destroying companies.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Yup. It can be morally good if the person shorting the stock if the investor legitimately believes that fraud is occurring in the company and that the financials don't reflect reality.

Otherwise, I'm with you. Absolutely no value added to the market and people are just making bank off of the financial misery of a company or the economy at large (2008). It's just a bet that "yeah, things are gonna go south and I'll turn myself into a god king for being correct". It's gross on principle.
 

Deleted member 81119

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you are quite right! this is all correct, except we don't know how the payout would be, and it is not really driven by anything other than memes, which while I look away in disgust at the memes of today compared to the ytmnd's and success kid's of my day, I know they are a strong driving factor for at least 42.0% of the population. plus I guess I just wanted to give it a shot since it was like 3 cents, haha! but yes I'm certainly very interested to see where the GME/etc situation winds up (tomorrow?). what a wild ride.
Yeah I was thinking of sticking £30 into it...but that damn verification is taking an age!
 

Cyclonesweep

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yup. It can be morally good if the person shorting the stock if the investor legitimately believes that fraud is occurring in the company and that the financials don't reflect reality.

Otherwise, I'm with you. Absolutely no value added to the market and people are just making bank off of the financial misery of a company or the economy at large (2008). It's just a bet that "yeah, things are gonna go south and I'll turn myself into a god king for being correct". It's gross on principle.
The risk is so low too. It's pretty much "if I have money I can create money out of nothing just by watching a company collapse" it's awful and watching all these hedge fund managers squirm is excellent. I get that investing is important but this isn't investing, there is NO benefit to society
 

4lgu13n

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm thinking about putting 2000€ in GME (the maximum eToro allows me to put plus is a quantity that won't affect me much if all things go south for me). However I'm not really sure is what the endgame here. If I have understood all this correctly, we should hold till market closes tomorrow so that shorts are forced to buy our shares, right? But this doesn't make sense to me, whose shares are they going to buy? Everyone's? Probably I have it all wrong. Could someone please tell me what to do? I really want to do this after reading all about what Wall Street has done today to screw over the common man. This is class warfare now.
 

Spine Crawler

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Oct 27, 2017
10,228
I'm thinking about putting 2000€ in GME (the maximum eToro allows me to put plus is a quantity that won't affect me much if all things go south for me). However I'm not really sure is what the endgame here. If I have understood all this correctly, we should hold till market closes tomorrow so that shorts are forced to buy our shares, right? But this doesn't make sense to me, whose shares are they going to buy? Everyone's? Probably I have it all wrong. Could someone please tell me what to do? I really want to do this after reading all about what Wall Street has done today to screw over the common man. This is class warfare now.
class warfare and chicken game
 

Alvis

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Oct 25, 2017
11,235
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I'm thinking about putting 2000€ in GME (the maximum eToro allows me to put plus is a quantity that won't affect me much if all things go south for me). However I'm not really sure is what the endgame here. If I have understood all this correctly, we should hold till market closes tomorrow so that shorts are forced to buy our shares, right? But this doesn't make sense to me, whose shares are they going to buy? Everyone's? Probably I have it all wrong. Could someone please tell me what to do? I really want to do this after reading all about what Wall Street has done today to screw over the common man. This is class warfare now.
I don't get it completely, but the gist is that if you buy shares and refuse to sell some billionaries will get fucked
 

danm999

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Oct 29, 2017
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The risk is so low too. It's pretty much "if I have money I can create money out of nothing just by watching a company collapse" it's awful and watching all these hedge fund managers squirm is excellent. I get that investing is important but this isn't investing, there is NO benefit to society

Some countries have banned it in the past for this very reason.
 

Lagspike_exe

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Dec 15, 2017
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I'm still amazed Gamestop hasn't announced equity issuance at market prices. HFs are probably begging them to do so and stop this agony.

The risk is so low too. It's pretty much "if I have money I can create money out of nothing just by watching a company collapse" it's awful and watching all these hedge fund managers squirm is excellent. I get that investing is important but this isn't investing, there is NO benefit to society

This is a terribly myopic POV from someone who doesn't understand the economic role of capital markets. Short selling helps to idenntify fradualent behavior and provides liqudiity. Thus, it aids in price discovery and helps efficient capital allocation. Naked shorting is debatable though.
 

chromatic9

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Oct 25, 2017
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Does shorting always have some time limit to when you have to buy the stock? When buying you can hold for a long as the company exists and hope it can recover. I always thought shorting they could sit back and wait until the stock drops down again, they just have to wait and ride this out. With the best will in the world I don't see a good end for gamestop but you never know.

It's good fun to turn the tables and shine a light on the corruption in stocks, for some they might see a way forward for gamestop somehow but you have to be in very early. Even a healthy gamestop diversifying somehow would be a 50-100 dollar stock.
 

Skyzar

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Oct 27, 2017
1,539
I'm thinking about putting 2000€ in GME (the maximum eToro allows me to put plus is a quantity that won't affect me much if all things go south for me). However I'm not really sure is what the endgame here. If I have understood all this correctly, we should hold till market closes tomorrow so that shorts are forced to buy our shares, right? But this doesn't make sense to me, whose shares are they going to buy? Everyone's? Probably I have it all wrong. Could someone please tell me what to do? I really want to do this after reading all about what Wall Street has done today to screw over the common man. This is class warfare now.

If people don't sell, no matter how bad it looks (no stop-triggers that drop the price more rapidly) and the price stays up or goes up, short sellers have to (eventually) buy the shares and close their positions because of interest going up and some contracts expiring. Them buying the shares (to make good on their shorts) makes the price goes higher - the price shoots up, especially if people don't sell and hold until very high amounts. They need to buy a fuckton of shares. We need to sell them at a very high price.

They will try all the tricks to bring the price down. They may have price points in mind (or even handed to them by brokers) that they need to trigger so a significant number of people sell their shares. They want to do it as fast as possible but the bigger shorters can hold out longer, bringing the price down more gradually until the squeeze isn't as catastrophic.

With brokers preventing people from buying, them triggerring stop-loss low price limits in and bringing the price down, it looked bad for a moment but it shot back up fast enough, but not to where it was. Tomorrow isn't necessarily the end game.

If people don't sell.

But they will sell when they panic. Others will buy it back (if they can find a broker willing to let them!). It is a risk, they have a lot of reasons to use any method they can to stop these prices. The market may even be frozen tomorrow.

Also I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm going pretty heavy on GME, including getting more. I feel like it can't drop too low or it won't happen though.
 
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The gamers have risen up and are ready to mobilize.
It's a weird dichotomy about Republicans kinda trying to dismiss the attack on the capitol on January 6th...and them being all up in arms that people are making money by doing to the stock market what hedge fund managers have been doing forever. Two different attempts at revolting but one of them was incredibly violent and the other endangered the money of rich people.
 

Caz

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's a weird dichotomy about Republicans kinda trying to dismiss the attack on the capitol on January 6th...and them being all up in arms that people are making money by doing to the stock market what hedge fund managers have been doing forever.
It's an easy punching bag/opportunity for them to say the right words (and an opportunity for people to ignore the fact that the deregulatory policies of the GOP directly led to the last two recessions and literally cut taxes for these chuckleheads that tried to short Gamestop, BlackBerry, etc.).