Government set to shut down as Sen. Cornyn says no vote (UP: shutdown started)
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For those entirely blaming Trump for this, you are wrong. This entirely is on Paul Ryan. He could have told the President to fuck off and put a vote to the floor and passed with a veto proof number. He didn't, because he is huge a huge pussy. He had one last chance to do the right thing against this president before he's gone and he chose not to.
One party wants to spend billions on a big fuck off stupid wall. This isn't compromise time, this is one party telling the other one to grow the fuck up.
Look at it this way, say the Republican party wanted to do something incredibly stupid and money wasting...like I don't know, build a huge do nothing wall. Would you expect the democrats to compromise? No, of course not.
We are not talking about the difference between a 2 or 2.5% tax cut here. This is just insanity.
They really just left at 5pm?
I just realized that Trump literally cancelled Christmas.
I'm not going to take blame off Trump because his lackey didn't do something.
Trump is probably going "what's the big deal? We just closed shop for the holidays".
I just realized that Trump literally cancelled Christmas.
Trump wants to a build a stupid, ineffective wall for $5bn dollars. Not even the GOP will give him that for a stupid wall (or steel slats), like it was the year 1700 and it would even be effective. This is all on Trump.
In 2013 the Democrats had to make various concessions because the GOP wanted to dismantle the ACA. Eventually the GOP relented, but many were furloughed for a time.
In 95-96 the GOP threw various hissy fits at Clinton and shut down the government (which cost them dearly in the following election).
In 1990 the GOP revolted against their own president over taxes and shut down the government.
Reagan shut it down several times because he couldn't get what he wanted with the budget.
IT IS ALWAYS THE GOP - EITHER IN CONGRESS OR THE PRESIDENT
DACA was hugely popular, too (86% approval rating from a poll I found in 2017) and dems gave up on it immediately. Schumer will fold first chance he gets. The dude is garbage and has a backbone made of cardboard.
Lmao
Are there more contradictory tweets than Simpson references at this point?
The GOP for 2 years controlled all 3 parts needed to pass legislation. It's infighting between the ethical and unethical and spend vs don't spend.
It's also why taxes got cut for the already well off, DACA, ACA are fucked, environmental protections got fucked and there's children and parents separated and in cages are the Southern border. Some things they can agree on, some they can't and they throw fits instead of compromise.
Fuck out of here with this both sides bullshit. Even as moderate, I'll tell you this is a crock.
This isn't even a party vs party situation it's Trump and Paul Ryan effectively strong arming power away from Congress by using people's livelihood as a hostage. The only way you can blame Democrats is if you wanted to blame them.
Look. If I want to punch you in the face and take your money and you dont want me to punch you in the face and take your money, arent we both in the wrong for not working together. I mean you are unwilling to compromise just as much as I am, so its both our faults for not reaching an agreement. In fact I would even say you care less about whats right and more about stopping me from getting what I want. You are just as bad as me for not letting me get my way.
So are you gonna let me punch you in the face and take your money or are you going to keep being an asshole and opposing me for opposition sake? The choice is yours.
Worst president and government. McConnell is shit. Ryan is trash.
Fucking morons will still support this dumpster fire.
Fucking morons will still support this dumpster fire.
So is he just going to keep re-branding 'the wall' for some reason? It's a wall. It's 10 feet higher. It's a thick wall. It's a fence. It's a metaphorical wall. It's a real wall. It's several different walls. It's a fence again with barbed wire. The wall is people with guns. No it's the greatest physical wall. It's a steel slats barrier now. Buy now half off all walls sale. Like fucking stop. He's treating it like it's a marketed product and if he just says the right words everyone will be on board.
Waiting for; 'We want to build a shining wall of light that will scare away the coyotes wanting to cross the border into the United States!'
Are you comparing Obamacare shut down, which many republicans now seem to approve of, to building a wall with no use?
Healthcare does serve a purpose and pays off, as it keeps a country's citizen alive, a wall... does neither of these. It is costly, does not work and a trump, sorry dump idea to beginn with.
You shouldnot compare this childish "butmommy I want my toy to show off to my nazi friends" behaviour with obama's introduction of a public/universal healthcare system.
I mean this is what it is. It's the monorail of government projects.
Well, it appears I dug myself into a hole and there's no way out. So I'll just say this, what I was trying to get at, is that partyline politics causing any kind of shutdown, regardless of reason, is ridiculous.
Whether it's healthcare, a temper tantrum for a magical fence, a budget can't be enforced, whatever the reason. All members of the house and senate should be held responsible whenever a shutdown occurs.
Whether it's healthcare, a temper tantrum for a magical fence, a budget can't be enforced, whatever the reason. All members of the house and senate should be held responsible whenever a shutdown occurs.
If there's no way out of a hole, essentially saying "all members should be held responsible for the actions of one side" doesn't help. :/
I just dont get being absolutely shit on for a page plus for being uninformed and then deciding to adamently stick to your objectively wrong stance.
Whether it's securing healthcare for millions of disadvantaged americans or a singular person wanting a racist ineffective overexpensive wall...we're all the same when you really think about it
When were unable to pass a supply bill in my country, the entire government is dissolved and we have an election within 2 months.
but the senate passed legislation that would have kept the government open until feb without any funding for the border wall and the only person who stopped it was trump so i don't know what you're in here whining about with your both sides shtick
I'm annoyed at myself for making myself hungry for garbage at 2AM.
It is the greatest sandwich of all time, can't wait for them to make it back to the UK
This isn't partyline politics, the senate already compromised and the house would to if they could. This is Trump and Paul Ryan's, republican leadership, fault. You either haven't read the facts or understand them.
Boogie is a dumpster fire. He's typical of moderates in today's America, though.
😂😂😂 at the idea that boogie is a moderate.
Dude is racist af.
Is he the guy from the "The middle is a great place to be!" gif?
I want to punch something whenever I see that.
The "should have waited to legalize gay marriage, now the homophobes are mad" guy
... have you spoken to any moderates/fence-sitters lately?
News flash- they are racist as fuck.
