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Hayao Miyazaki not fond of "American" movies
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Glad you only read half of my reply so you could dunk on an old man.
Housing/cost of living in West and east coast are completely fucked(hence the massive homeless problems). I don't know where Japan sources its coffee from the bulk of American coffee screws over the countries they get it from. There's a bunch of weird stuff Disneyland does but dude could just not like the park.
He's just jealous because he's never made a movie as good as Raiders.
Although he's gotten pretty close.
Oh come on. You think someone would really speak with authority about something that they have no experience with?
His father also was an aeronautical engineer during WWII. I'd be curious to see behind the scenes stuff or interviews about The Wind Rises's production and how it relates to his relationship with his father. Maybe he does have blinders on for this particular subject matter.
Also, I'm pretty sure he's a lapsed socialist. He took part in the leftist protests back in the 60's. He is apparently a very strong example of a politically and socially oriented mindset from that generation.
This guy has his head so far up his ass that I bet that he can see his lungs
Amazing creator that sometimes has some valid points, but most of the time he is just a shitty human being
I mean, dudes a pacifist that hates war, so i think he hates it in general. But the whole 'why does america not regret dropping the bombs' when your country doesnt admit to the atrocities in nanking ?
And yeah for me the wind rises absolutely sucked because instead of being an interesting look at the morality of making beautiful creations that get used for devastating uses, the movie was basically 'WEEE I LOVE PLANES AND FALLING IN LOVE'
This is a joke, right?There is one, but he's a Nazi scumbag.
Can't believe everyone on ResetEra is getting their jimmies rustled by Hayao Miyazaki.
His comments are 100% true, and people are reacting to this like when Morrissey speaks his mind.
His comments are 100% true, and people are reacting to this like when Morrissey speaks his mind.
Pretty much this
LOL
It's pretty valid to criticize him for The Wind Rises and how it portrays an engineer, who, at the very least did nothing about the rise of Imperialism in Japan. But he's pretty staunchly anti-Fascist, pro-human rights, pro-pacifism in all of his other films.
I'm not really sure what you're referring to. There's tons and tons of ancient history everywhere in the world. I'm speaking out of my ass but I'd bet that Africa is a far better place for ancient history than Europe.
100% is pushing it, since it seems like he watched LotR in the background while reading.
You're the only person to utter a slur here.
You think Ronald Lacey was Japanese?There is one, but he's a Nazi scumbag.
Hey man I grew up on and loved Lord of the Rings but this is certainly the case lmao
The character, not the actor.
I swear I remember reading somewhere that Toht was supposed to be Japanese.
You're not really sure? Do you think an Indiana Jones movie with Indy Globetrotting the Tri-State region would be interesting?
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He also told his son he did a great job on directing it afterwards.
Miyazaki has always been an activist and if you've seen a movie or two of his, you'd see that back in those films.
The anime was a mistake is a meme. In that scene Miyazaki talks about otaku and how it has ruined the anime industry. Which isn't that far from the truth as well.
As a creator that has been active in the industry for decades, I think he's allowed to criticize a piece of film. Yes, seeing his colleagues die before him and seeing the industry change has made him into a bit of a grumpy old man. That doesn't mean none of it is valid.
Whenever Western media brings up something miyazaki said or done, there's an overreaction to his responses.
The sentiment Miyazaki shares here is not that strange. Yes, we shouldn't take anything as gospel, but maybe we could like just act normal about it as a piece of opinion and not reject it immediately because people think he's a dementing old fool.
If he thinks that about those movies then I'm sure his reaction to every other American movie ever would be
Well, he sorta kinda has a point, but I wonder what he thinks of the book in and of itself. Tolkien had a lot in common with him in terms of themes.
Damnit, now I want a Ghibli Lord of the Rings adaptation...
Damnit, now I want a Ghibli Lord of the Rings adaptation...
Miyazaki could certainly do some great things with his animation with life in the Shire, that's for damn sure.
Maybe I'm going crazy but I used to have an Indiana Jones guidebook, and I swear the character was listed as Japanese.
That hardly fits the criteria, if at all.
LotR is a relatively straightforward fantasy story where the evil side is mostly composed by monsters. Most fiction with monsters doesn't bother with creating nuance where monsters can be innocent too and should have rights. This is hardly exclusive to western fiction (let's ignore that he talks about english books as american ones). Ghibli works are a rare (and commendable) exception.
About the Haradrim, which, afaik are the only humans in Sauron's service, or at least the most relevant ones, they were corrupted by Sauron, but this quote from Sam certainly adds nuance to the situation, implying it isn't as simple as "they're all evil and bloodthirsty":
"It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would rather have stayed there in peace."
I'm no Tolkien scholar though and there's already a thread on Era discussing these issues in his work and it certainly is a discussion worth having.
You think Major Arnold Ernst Toht of the Gestapo was supposed to be Japanese?
Ah, you edited. No, I've never heard that. They originally offered the role to Klaus Kinski, and you don't get much more Aryan than that.
Absolutely correct. Again, the films are a surface level, baseline representation of the written works so of course they appear much more simplistic in many of the gritty world details (especially if it doesn't impact the main cast directly very often). But it is also correct that it is still a conversation worth having, definitely.
Hell, given another lifetime Tolkien would have probably created more nuance into what an Orc society would be like. He didn't get around to finishing their spoken language after all, unfortunately.
Yeah that wouldn't make sense, but that means the book lied to me!!!
I mean it's not the only time a different nationality has played a different ethnicity in these films. John Rys Davis, who's Welsh, played Sallah, a middle eastern character.
Straight from the wiki:
''Miyazaki has expressed his disapproval of Abe's denial of Japan's military aggression, stating that Japan "should clearly say that [they] inflicted enormous damage on China and express deep remorse over it".He also felt that the country's government should give a "proper apology" to Korean comfort women who serviced the Japanese army during World War II, suggesting that the Senkaku Islands should be "split in half" or controlled by both Japan and China. After the release of The Wind Rises in 2013, some online critics labeled Miyazaki a "traitor" and "anti-Japanese", describing the film as overly "left wing"
So it seems he doesn't have blinders on regarding WWII era Japan.
People on ERA getting heated because someone is saying popular western media has troubling underlying themes of white supremacy and imperialism? ARguments that have been made for decades?
It's so painfully obvious who even read the OP and who's just shitposting "old man yells at clouds" memes.
Seriously, his principles are spot on. Maybe the nationality of the root cause is fudged (british not american) but his points ring surprisingly true.
tl;dr My Miyazaki can't possibly be this woke.
Seriously, his principles are spot on. Maybe the nationality of the root cause is fudged (british not american) but his points ring surprisingly true.
tl;dr My Miyazaki can't possibly be this woke.
Yea, the reactions in this thread are baffling.
I agree with Miyazaki here. I love LotR but it isn't hard to spot the racism once you look at it.
Also he never said anime was a mistake even though he has major criticisms of the state of the industry and its direction. That was an edit of one of his interviews that went viral and became a meme.
Also he never said anime was a mistake even though he has major criticisms of the state of the industry and its direction. That was an edit of one of his interviews that went viral and became a meme.
this thread: two pages of ad hominem dismissals and just a few that address his points.
that said, i don't completely agree with him but from certain perspectives and the greater cultural milieu that spawned these works of fiction and he does have a point and is certainly not yelling at clouds.
that said, i don't completely agree with him but from certain perspectives and the greater cultural milieu that spawned these works of fiction and he does have a point and is certainly not yelling at clouds.
We should all be so lucky to be as mentally and physically active as Miyazaki is at 78.
Judging by the first page, he's a little too woke for Ameri-era, apparently
"Don't talk shit about muh movies!"
"Don't talk shit about muh movies!"
I assume you're talking about the region in Southeast Asia. In which case, no, I wouldn't find it very entertaining because I wouldn't want to watch a white dude steal artifacts and deface temples from a region with a rich cultural background and amazing ancient architecture.
I mean, based on the thread title, I was going to make a comment about how the Japanese movie industry is really... not great, but the article specifically states that he doesn't like Hollywood movies. That's not really the same thing, and it's definitely a much more reasonable position.
Hot take, Temple of Doom is the worst one, and this is one of the reasons
This thread id giving me flashbacks to that time on Neogaf when someone made a thread about how the problematic racial elements in Tarzan and King Kong movies made it difficult for them to enjoy them and a bunch of posters thought they were reading too much into things that weren't there.
About racial themes in KING KONG AND TARZAN
About racial themes in KING KONG AND TARZAN
Well first of all you are only allowed to criticize other cultures if your own is 100% pure and blameless.
Not surprising given his views, and he isn't wrong to a extent, though I am not really sure about the civilians part.