"best people we can find" is the same gaslighting bullshit you hear all the time when there's pushback about old boy's clubs.
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HBO Max to lay off 70% of staff and end scripted content (UP: Actually, no to both)
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Yup.
A less sensational thread title would be:
"HBO Max Production to be folded into HBO; Head of HBO poised to take on senior role across all WBD scripted programming; Combined HBO Max and Discovery+ to have a new name"
I'm mentally preparing myself to completely walk away from WB as a company. If they kill the shows I care about, they won't get a dime out of me for anything - movies, TV shows, video games, etc - until Zaslav retires or gets his ass run out the company. Absolutely zero forgiveness.
Who is this person? I can go on Twitter and post a list of Max Originals show too.
It is. I'm not saying the content won't end up on whatever new service they have. But the productions will be handled by the linear HBO production staff and the shows will not be exclusive to the service. They will be simulcast.
Is there a summary article out there with the entire story in detail? Like going back to before Discovery bought/merged WB?
But cutting 70% of their staff will mean a lot less content overall.
Is this actually somebody? Not that something won't happen, but this just seems like a dude posting a list of shows
There is legitimate reason to be worried about both of those, yes.
Doom Patrol finished filming its fourth season in June. Titans will finish filming its fourth season in a few weeks.
And it's not just a question of, "Will they be cancelled?" It's also a question of, "Will those finished/nearly finished seasons even air?"
Generally if they aren't producing content you want they shouldn't get your money. Thats how it should work.
They didn't "buy" wb, AT&T offloaded it and merged it with discovery. And do you think these shows grow on trees if you don't care?
On another point whenever password sharing threads are on here and people praise it then I see the same people complaining in these threads
Right, they will be simulcast, with the HBO cable channel as the legacy distribution network and the streaming service as the primary one.
There is no new focus on the cable network.
this is semantics
the team that runs the cable network is the one grabbing all the power in this scenario. slice that any way you want.
A content team is a content team. That they have history programming a cable channel is really immaterial. The steaming service will have the eyes and the reach, it is the primary distribution network.
Even if the content is in the new app, this is still a terrible branding misstep imo.
I feel bad for the people losing their jobs and hoping they land on their feet, but streaming services and shows are bloated and in need of a massive haircut. There's only so much content a person can consooom.
I feel bad for the people losing their jobs and hoping they land on their feet, but streaming services and shows are bloated and in need of a massive haircut. There's only so much content a person can consooom.
Jesus Christ HBO Max was seriously my favorite of the streaming apps, I cannot believe they are gutting this so fucking bad.
Gotta love how smart American entertainment companies are.
> TBS, TNT, Adult Swim, and Cartoon Network have a bunch of great shows that while they aren't popular, have their audiences
> Said shows get their next seasons on HBO Max to expand its catalog
> Nobody watches some of these shows (soma are never advertised) and they get cancelled
> Now with this merger, the rest of such shows are also probably going to get cancelled
Great business acumen, genius even.
> TBS, TNT, Adult Swim, and Cartoon Network have a bunch of great shows that while they aren't popular, have their audiences
> Said shows get their next seasons on HBO Max to expand its catalog
> Nobody watches some of these shows (soma are never advertised) and they get cancelled
> Now with this merger, the rest of such shows are also probably going to get cancelled
Great business acumen, genius even.
Perfect representation of Discovery's leadership team - it's old white dudes all the way down.
We'll find out tomorrow but that's far from clear. Its very possible for HBO productions to put content directly on Max, or whatever the replacement product will be. Its basically the same balancing act that Paramount is doing pushing stuff either as a P+ exclusive or have it start on a cable channel. At the end of the day WB Discovery needs the revenue that Max delivers, so they have to keep those customers somehow.
Here we go again. You don't need to watch everything. Options are nice.
I haven't followed anything re hbo and discovery and what not, completely out of the loop. Does this mean that the hbo max app is going to disappear?
The Second Golden Age of Television is over.
What might happen is they're going to Frankenstein Discovery + and HBO Max together under some new umbrella (HBODiscovery, Discovery HBO, DHBO)
Not likely, but possible.
What might happen is they're going to Frankenstein Discovery + and HBO Max together under some new umbrella (HBODiscovery, Discovery HBO, DHBO)
My point is more that even if they do somehow greenlight something I want after all this shit goes down, I won't give them money for it until Zaslav is out of the company.
Like if they greenlight a 100% accurate to the comics John Constantine live-action series, oh well. I won't sign up for HBO+ or whatever they call the new service to see it. Them's the breaks.
It looks like a new app is going to be made instead that includes the surviving content from HBO/Max and Discovery+.
Man.. there are a few shows listed I wanted to start but I'm not even going to bother. Really gonna cancel these and upcoming programs like the Penguin spinoff for reality TV garbage. Praying on WBD's downfall
idk what you are trying to say here
they aren't making scripted shows exclusively for streaming anymore. you can spin that to mean whatever you want it to mean, but what it results in is fewer shows greenlit and less content overall. that is the worry for most and that is an accurate assessment of what is happening.
I don't know who they are, if you could link what they're talking about I'd take a look. We're going to find out for sure tomorrow but everything so far is been related to Max programming only.
Unless we have some really key insiders in these threads everybody is basically drawing from the same pool of information right now. I think there is at least one insider but I don't recall them saying anything that hasn't seem to match what everybody else has said so far.
It looks like they intend to merge it with Discovery and cut back on projects/move certain originals to HBO proper.
Heh. HBO Max just launched in my country. HBO is only available through a certain provider and a pain in the ass to get. Guess I'm not watching any HBO content ever again.
The follow up tweets on this one don't sound like he has significant inside knowledge. It sounds like he's just saying there will be news about HBO Max shows and listing a bunch of popular ones. Stuff like "Let's just hope that it won't be as hard but still" and "These are in danger until we know for sure what the new CEO is doing with this merger." don't sound like he knows anything specific.
We should probably stop quoting random Tweets...
Yes, that's all true. What's not true is that there is any new focus on the cable channel.
I'm not spinning anything. You said:
There is no new focus on original content for linear and not streaming.
easy way to see this is that Max programming is getting gutted, the HBO you know from the HBO Now days with some shows saved from the Max Originals (if any) will move over to the new WBD service that has HBO content in it.
This is so weird, I don't live in the US anymore but I feel HBO has ten times the brand power discovery does. If my kids lose Sesame Street I riot. Fuck we are going to lose Tokyo vice aren't we.
I'm talking about "exclusively" for streaming, as they have been doing for Max.
Let me make that clear.
It seems very clear they have little to no interest in producing streaming-specific original scripted content any longer.
Lol, ok well that's different.
Yes, agreed. That not the same as focusing on cable. That's just reducing the output and sharing content access multiple distribution channels.
The streaming service will still the the primary channel for WBD output. That output will just be (a lot) less than it has been.
You're making it sound like HBO is not gonna be streaming on whatever the app becomes and the HBO Max scripted content will, which as we're using the same pool of information, doesn't make it seem like that at all.
So does AT&T have anything to do with WB Discovery at this point or are they completely separate?
way to grasp victory from the jaws of defeat. I bet Netflix's board is partying it up right now
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