Most devs don't own the games they make. The games are usually owned by the publisher so in this case, Sony.
Helldivers 2 has been delisted on Steam in countries where PSN isn't available
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Most devs don't own the games they make. The games are usually owned by the publisher so in this case, Sony.
This is Sony's IP and they are the publisher. And Arrowhead knew this requirement too even if they pretend to be shocked about matters now to appease internet mobs
Sony are the publisher and own the IP. There's not much Arrowhead can do.
I honestly think someone at Sony was not happy with Arrowhead PR making that recommendation to break the PSN ToS. And that made them go for the nuclear oprion to ban sales there altogether
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This makes no sense though.
There is also a country code XD in there. I found this on reddit originally.
Is this legit? Not sure anymore.
EDIT: When I search the number in the link, it is on the HD2 app page on SteamDB. So seems legit to me, could be wrong though.
First step refunds. Next step this. Pretty much what I expected. Lol.
No. Because Sony owns Helldivers.
Does that make it less stupid? Because others do it as well?
Good job whiners, you fucked it for those people from those countries who had no qualms making a foreign PSN account or using their existing one.
I assume Japan being on there was a fat fingered mistake.
I assume Japan being on there was a fat fingered mistake.
I couldnt give a shit about what you "believe" , the TOS is still messed up regardless and it's insane to ask money for a game while having on the TOS that you can be banned from the game at any time Sony wishes for the crime of making a PSN account off region
The only one who messed up here is Sony. Off region accounts being against T.O.S should be taken out of the T.O.S
blaming anyone but Sony here is insane.
Honestly, requiring an account link on multiplayer games is normal. The problem is they allowed to much a time period that they didn't officially require it.
End result though is that a developer who is making an amazing game, going about MTX in the right way, and pricing their product well is going to get screwed. Shit sucks.
It's ok because I saw someone unironically say Arrowhead should walk away from Sony over this lmfao
Puerto Rico isn't even a country, period. It's part of the United States. No idea why Steam lists it as a separate country since they just use the USD anyways and it's even more stupid it's delisted here.
Because we have been using fake PSN accounts for 15 plus years and no one has ever get banned for it .
Are you trying to say Sony don't want my money cause i have to use USA PSN when i in Barbados with fake address and they know people do this .
I feel for Arrowhead. Sony is messing up their good thing.
LMAO it's the funniest goalpost movement I've seen in years. Because of course Sony was definitely not planning to do this all the time.
They did the best possible move by siding with players. Considering that this was going to be the outcome anything else would have killed all of their hard-earned good faith. At least now they get to keep the good faith from all of the people aware of them being the ones suggesting players to review bomb. I'm sure their next title will sell very well if they go fully independent.
Exactly lmao this is fucked, way too heavy handed. This can't be permanent or the hit to Helldiver's rep will also be
I wish people wouldn't be like 'just break the TOS, no big deal'. I straight up lost tons of digital content from amazon cause I moved, I don't trust that shit at all.
They need to offer some sort of loophole for people here to make accounts without also feeling like they're breaking TOS, that's on Sony at this point
They need to offer some sort of loophole for people here to make accounts without also feeling like they're breaking TOS, that's on Sony at this point
Some of these are just territories of countries that do have PSN. Puerto Rico and Svalbard for example. This seems like it was done in a rush.
Despite being on that image you have in the OP, Japan isn't actually on the SteamDB list (unless I missed it).
neither is åland islands, gibraltar or guam
but maybe unknown country code is a hint that this was hastily thrown together lmao
Is it though, there's a fair bit of America that doesn't think so, and it's fucked up.
Sony blocked those countries, and will likely block them by default on all future games requiring a PSN account. Blame the company that did it and not the end users that have zero control over corporate policy.
After you pointed this out, what?? I thought Japan has PSN. Maybe it's a regional restriction thing?
Yep, I really feel bad for Arrowhead here. They launched this game at $40. Everything is earnable in game, you can grind to buy everything including the battle passes. They have done a tremendous job building a community and having a great time with the players. All of it crashing down because Sony didn't just stick to the requirement from the job. It sucks.
This SKU has always been unavailable in Japan, the game is still available in Japan https://steamdb.info/sub/906469/
Every other country there is a new restriction and at the moment there's no alternative way for those countries to buy HD2 on Steam.
I would have assumed that those kinds of people don't run a global entertainment company but maybe I'm wrong...
Foreign PSN accounts have been something Sony have looked the other way on for over 15 years.
Bozos have now drawn attention to it making it the biggest gaming news story of the week and forced Sony's hand in enforcing TOS. Good job.
It isn't.
I get Sony wanting it, but the ship has sailed. This is about the future for them, they are going to require PSN for all things PC in a year or so imo.
Gotta pump up those MAU numbers and PSN integration for Sony's biggest PC game is a sure fire way to do that
Bout to find out if Sony thinks hurting this game is worth the bump in numbers
Think it's a mistake, Japan isn't actually on the SteamDB list linked in the OP.
This plus the refunds for people with 200+ hours in game feels like Steam or someone at Steam preempting Sony to make a point? I'd have imagined Sony would probably have handled the issue of regions without PSN a little later on and a little more delicately otherwise.
If this wasn't a crisis yesterday it's a crisis now.
Sony doesn't care if you break their TOS and use an off-region account. Sony also doesn't care enough to actually remove the idea of regions or at least highlight how little they care. And now that lack of care is fucking them, because good-faith people who want to follow the rules will read the rules and conclude that if they don't have a PSN region then they can't set up a PSN account.
Through the sheer momentum of people telephoning each other PSN now has an off-region ban whether they actually wanted one or not. Good fucking luck fixing that now.
Sony doesn't care if you break their TOS and use an off-region account. Sony also doesn't care enough to actually remove the idea of regions or at least highlight how little they care. And now that lack of care is fucking them, because good-faith people who want to follow the rules will read the rules and conclude that if they don't have a PSN region then they can't set up a PSN account.
Through the sheer momentum of people telephoning each other PSN now has an off-region ban whether they actually wanted one or not. Good fucking luck fixing that now.
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