Holy shit: Pokémon Sword 2018 beta just leaked, including Pokémon that were cut in the final version. (Only 21 Pokemon modeled in)
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"in some cases". either way it's a piece of software in early development
I wouldn't read anything into the performance, if only because we don't know anything about the PC specs this is running on
You've clearly never seen a game in development before. You can't infer the game was rushed from the state of a single snapshot more than a year before release.
You'd be shook at what most games look like not even a year before release.
They can't crack down on the internet lol
All they can do is pull the links after everyone has already downloaded and reuploaded it, which is what they always do anyways. And they are probabling already investigating who leaked the files... regardless of the Pokémon stuff.
I really, really wonder what could have been if this waited a year to more fully cook.
As is, between dexit and the variety of other issues, unless there's a major turn around, I'll probably end up skipping the next one(s) too.
Seriously, there's Megas/Ultra Beasts right in the game screen, lol. Definitely a time/budget issue, sure, but something that definitely wasn't an 'organic' thought from the start.
Realistically, though, TPC got money in the bank, they probably don't care at all.
It was more of a 'general' animation/rigging issue for how many pokemon exist equaling too large of a workload, but that was part of it, I believe.
Home subs definitely didn't play a role at all, nosirree.
As is, between dexit and the variety of other issues, unless there's a major turn around, I'll probably end up skipping the next one(s) too.
Seriously, there's Megas/Ultra Beasts right in the game screen, lol. Definitely a time/budget issue, sure, but something that definitely wasn't an 'organic' thought from the start.
Realistically, though, TPC got money in the bank, they probably don't care at all.
It was more of a 'general' animation/rigging issue for how many pokemon exist equaling too large of a workload, but that was part of it, I believe.
Home subs definitely didn't play a role at all, nosirree.
Yeah I know games aren't developed in the order they begin through to the end. :P
It was only the fact Route 1 was in that state that was my point. I know some even do the beginning last, it just felt weird for a beginning as crucial as Pokemon that would raise the importance of it enough to be finalized earlier... IMO.
It was only the fact Route 1 was in that state that was my point. I know some even do the beginning last, it just felt weird for a beginning as crucial as Pokemon that would raise the importance of it enough to be finalized earlier... IMO.
I think that's what was assumed, but I believe the statement they made had something to do with new models and animations. Which was of course debunked within hours of the game releasing, as people found out the models and animations were the exact same as previous games.
Early menu. Definitely understand why they moved all of those online options into their own separate menu; too many options.
Poke Jobs were part of the menu (bottom row, next to settings) instead of being accessed through Pokemon Center PCs; neat?
Poke Jobs were part of the menu (bottom row, next to settings) instead of being accessed through Pokemon Center PCs; neat?
No, not necessarily. Having some experience playtesting large open world games, it's not unusual for huge chunks of the map to be missing and/or unfinished even when it's a year before going gold.
Pokémon isn't really a game that props routes as the main focus anyway. The battle system and all the mechanics likely takes up the lion's share of the development process and goes through the most testing. It'd also not be unusual for the first level to be done until late since many designers tackle it last as an introductory point to all the game's systems (though I'm not sure how much it compares to all the other routes in this beta).
Not legally obtained - sure, can you prove it 100% though?
Not legal to stream - says who? Even if that's true, is it illegal to watch the stream? ;)
yeah thats a fair point, but making a comment implying devs are lazy/bad is shitty in general, but is extra shitty with a product still in development.
Yeah I clarified what I meant and understood. :P
Your last bit there IS a legit concern because that screams horrific crunch to me in those cases. :/
Man I really hope the next generation gets an extra year of development. Gamefreaks strategy just does not work. There is no excuse for Pokemon not to be a crazy high quality JRPG in gameplay, sound design, and visual design. SwSh were so clearly rushed out and Pokemon deserves better.
No one has said the devs are bad or lazy. I'm 100% sure that the reasons why Pokémon Sword and Shield is so shit is due to management, budget, and deadlines.
is IP owned by Nintendo for sale legally? do you know that Nintendo gave permission to stream IP?
are you aware how notorious Nintendo is about IP protection, cracking on sites and suing people for leaking and sharing IP?
like what kind of bad faith argument are you pushing here?
Yeah; March 26th 2018; over 19 months before launch.
Timestamp of the debug build.
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How is this beta. Looks like early concept to me. Also;: Why dont they just use Unity/Unreal ???
Definitely management. It sort of snowballs into budget and deadlines.
We got used to saying it's beta. I guess we can say it's alpha build?
We went from this amazing start screen with glorious Megas...
To...well, this...
"Hey we want a cool depth of field effect"
"How far back do you want the focal length?"
"Behind me"
This entire thread shows people STILL dont understand how game dev works
And its sad that we getting the "devs are lazy"comments again with no crackdown on it
And its sad that we getting the "devs are lazy"comments again with no crackdown on it
games aren't really developed linearly like that though
Same. I've been fascinated with this stuff ever since accidentally stumbling on Hidden Palace Zone in Sonic 2.
This stream is entertaining, even though they're just running around empty environments (missing textures!).
Pretty early it seems like. The beta is from 2018, 2 years before release.
Regarding the title screen, while it is a good idea, I wonder why they didn't emphasize Galarian Pokemon. It feels like that's what the game should do considering it's a new generation.
Having said that, the theme of Gen VIII is battling, so it communicates that quite perfectly. I'm getting Stadium vibes too.
Having said that, the theme of Gen VIII is battling, so it communicates that quite perfectly. I'm getting Stadium vibes too.
Pokken, Pokemon Stadium / Colosseum, or Pokemon mobile game with a realistic background environment.
At least when you beat the game, you get to view yourself and your team that won you the Championship on camera in an updated title screen.We went from this amazing start screen with glorious Megas...
To...well, this...
(The low-res, out of focus Pokeball is hideous, though.)
I'd be surprised if they didn't have at least a handful of Galarian Pokemon done. Especially considering there wasn't much work to be done to the previous models anyway. Unless Creatures Inc. didn't export them to GF until much later.
This thread is a perfect example of why you should never show the public an early build of anything, ever. People cannot handle it.
That does look more like a Pokemon Stadium title screen. God, I want another one of those.
Yeah, it's more that I mean they probably weren't 100% finished. Easier to stick old already 100% completed Pokémon in the beta. Well, except for the fact that was the excuse they used as to why a lot of old Pokémon were cut.
I don't know.