Hotel apologizes for 'sexist' ad of couple enjoying breakfast in bed
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I don't think the hotel has the right to assume what a man and a woman enjoy wearing. Should had them just being naked.
If she was reading that the ad would be a million times better.
Where do we stop at? Nano aggression? I mean come on.
MGS6's plot will be about the proliferation of weaponized nanoaggressions.
Of course not. The context matters.
You can show a pub full of Irish people having a good time and being responsible drinkers.
It would be another thing entirely if you contrasted an Irish person drinking with other people doing more "respectable" tasks, such as an Englishman in a suit working at an intellectual office job.
i know right, can you BELIEVE that One (1) person would just go on Twitter Dot Com and make a post about their opinion on something?
talk about outrage for the sake of outrage, this is getting to be too much ;)
It's just stereotypical. How offended you get depends on you.
Most people aren't, some are. Just be aware that portraying people as having set "places" or roles in a relationship can be harmful longterm.
Most people aren't, some are. Just be aware that portraying people as having set "places" or roles in a relationship can be harmful longterm.
Changing the book or newspaper to electronic devices just diminishes the composition, that is not a fix, you just have to replace them with non-descript book and newspaper. And yes you have to keep one a book and one a newspaper for the sake of size variety unless you want it to be more boring.
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Don't really understand the reactions in this thread. I think the woman who made this comment is right, and her comment sounded very harmless and not at all "outraged" like some people here claim. And the hotel also didn't react badly, they immediately agreed and even apologized. It's just a fact that women often get shown in such a way, like they are a bit dumb or incompetent. And if this constantly happened to you, wouldn't you want to call it out?
I think the "real" problem here is this lame article who tries to downplay / make fun of the situation and the commenters. Just look at how the article is written, they are using "sexist" in quotes or write "apparently sexist". The headline suggests that they apologize because people were offended by a "couple enjoying breakfast in bed", when that's not the case at all. But the comments who don't agree with the woman are shown without any negativity, and aren't even especially smart. "It must feel awesome to have run out of real things to complain about." Right, we should never speak about certain things because there are always bigger problems? That makes no sense.
So yes, maybe the real problem here really is this article that wants to further feed the narrative of there being an "outrage culture", just because someone somewhere spent 5 seconds writing a comment to a picture. The horror, our society will perish!
I think the "real" problem here is this lame article who tries to downplay / make fun of the situation and the commenters. Just look at how the article is written, they are using "sexist" in quotes or write "apparently sexist". The headline suggests that they apologize because people were offended by a "couple enjoying breakfast in bed", when that's not the case at all. But the comments who don't agree with the woman are shown without any negativity, and aren't even especially smart. "It must feel awesome to have run out of real things to complain about." Right, we should never speak about certain things because there are always bigger problems? That makes no sense.
So yes, maybe the real problem here really is this article that wants to further feed the narrative of there being an "outrage culture", just because someone somewhere spent 5 seconds writing a comment to a picture. The horror, our society will perish!
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Probably worthy of a letter to the editor, just to give them the heads up of the possible perception, that's it. And to be fair, the hotel decided to pull it and it doesn't seem like it was from massive outrage at all, it's just, they ultimately agreed.
To be honest I couldn't tell what was sexist about the photo until the article pointed out it was the reading material..... That says a lot.
It's an advertisment, of course there are hidden messages. None of this is happenstance. Every single thing in an ad is contrived to elicit a response.
LOL exactly.
i know right, it must be very embarrassing for the people who think one person's snarky opinion on an advertisement is worth getting outraged over
Absolutely nothing is sexist about it. Nothing in the tweet even references that she finds it offensive that the woman is reading a fashion mag, or that she doesn't even like fashion mags. It's as simple as "Oh hey, I just want to point out that, I also read the Financial Review" and then in comes the explosion of stereotyping genders from people completely unrelated. Who are we to say that Elizabeth Redman doesn't ALSO like Chanel?
Like I guess good on the hotel for acknowledging it in a sensitive manner, but my goodness.
A few hours ago this forum was outraged by an attractive woman posing on a thumbnail for a show she produced and hosts. I am curious what you guys find more outrageous.
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You don't need to work yourself into being upset. It's sufficient to say "Yeah, that's reinforcing gender stereotypes in an unhealthy way. Glad the hotel pulled the ad and apologized."
There are different degrees of sexism that exist. This one is fairly mild, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't point it out. And it definitely doesn't mean that we should shame or denounce people who do point it out in healthy and productive ways.
While I think the hotel did the right thing by immediately apologizing and pulling the ad, I don't think they immediately agree. Given the power of social media, the last thing they want is *any* negative press. Shit like this spreads out quickly and the hotel doesn't want any of that. It's easier to take the path of least resistance and just do what they did. It just sucks that they had to in the first place for this instance.
Oh I get it now, sorry. At first I didn't realize a single ad showing a woman looking at a coffee table book while having breakfast was disrespecting females everywhere.
We get it. You don't care, but you care enough to come into a thread people do care about and laugh at their perspectives.
We get it. You don't care.
No one is saying this is a "hidden message". Not everything people find fault with is a hidden message put by another person. Almost all the time it's just ingrained bias. It very well could be a coincidence the man is reading a financial work while the woman is reading about coffee tables, but that's very stereotypical and should be examined.
imagine if every time you expressed an off-hand opinion on something, everyone accused you of being hysterical and of getting outraged at the slightest provocation
that sure would be annoying, wouldn't it?
that sure would be annoying, wouldn't it?
You're right about the outrage being ridiculous as always. I just don't understand why male posters insist on throwing a hissy fit when some people point out the issues of a ad that, consciously or not, reinforces gender stereotypes.
I know that you're just trying to egg me on at this point, but I'll point out that (again) context matters. Your own description of the ad is leaving out important details.
An ad with a woman reading a coffee table book is fine.
An ad with a woman reading a fashion coffee table book (which many people in society would consider vapid, useless, vain) while sitting next to a man reading a financial newspaper (intellectual, hardworking, bread-winner) is a different sort of beast.
There's nothing inherently wrong with pictures of Irish people drinking. There's nothing inherently wrong with pictures of women reading coffee table books. Context matters.
oh i get it now, sorry. i didn't realize that a woman making a snarky Tweet about a hotel ad pointing out a common trend in media was disrespecting males everywhere.
That's what you consider a hissy fit?
Also, if this is an unconscious stereotype of genders, than i guess everything in daily life is a stereotype of genders. From the clothes we all wear to the shampoo we use.
It's a microaggression that enforces gender stereotypes.
Why not show them both reading the same thing? Or her reading the Economist and him reading the New York Times?
Seems like it would be easy to shop a new cover on her book. Not sure the whole ad needed to be pulled
The problem is less that someone find it troubling, but rather that it made news. To me, anyway.
There is a problem about advertisements reinforcing old values, and this is definitely one of them. If we're all agreeing that we need to get rid of the archaic values, then them admitting this is a step, albeit tiny, forward.
The real problem here is that this is completely un-newsworthy, it plays into that "SJW snowflakes" scenario we're all too familiar with. I mean, this is like someone complaining about a hotel's restaurant's food this one time, and some idiot decided to make it news. There is no excessive outrage, there is no insane backlash, but this making the news continues to push that "outrage culture" nonsense.
There is a problem about advertisements reinforcing old values, and this is definitely one of them. If we're all agreeing that we need to get rid of the archaic values, then them admitting this is a step, albeit tiny, forward.
The real problem here is that this is completely un-newsworthy, it plays into that "SJW snowflakes" scenario we're all too familiar with. I mean, this is like someone complaining about a hotel's restaurant's food this one time, and some idiot decided to make it news. There is no excessive outrage, there is no insane backlash, but this making the news continues to push that "outrage culture" nonsense.
Got anything to back this up, or is this an arse-pull to justify a narrative that they are just buckling under the pressure of all the outrage and not, as they said in their statement, that they didn't intend to reinforce gender stereotypes?
Times are too peaceful right now and people are getting restless, so every single day someone chooses something so mundane and stupid to argue about just to add some thrill and excitement to their humdrum lives. How long must these peaceful times persist until people remember how to just live their lives and survive?
it's in the goddamn name you guys, people call them "microaggressions" because they don't want to make a big deal out of it but do want to point out how a trend of continual little annoyances adds up
kinda like how if Chad is constantly negging you it might become grating after a while even though he isn't doing anything egregiously wrong
like you know you'd look foolish if you complained about him in public, but he's still engaging in a pattern of annoying behavior that reinforces his standing over you
it's not that hard of a concept to grasp, really
kinda like how if Chad is constantly negging you it might become grating after a while even though he isn't doing anything egregiously wrong
like you know you'd look foolish if you complained about him in public, but he's still engaging in a pattern of annoying behavior that reinforces his standing over you
it's not that hard of a concept to grasp, really
Agreed. But that's the business that small time trash journalists are involved in nowadays. Finding small controversies and then screencaping tweets with literally 0 retweets as a "sampling of public opinion".
And then it gets posted on ResetERA and half the posters yell "Outrage culture strikes again!!" and now we become a vehicle for perpetuating the problem.
I didn't refer to anyone in particular, but I think several of the reactions in here fit the bill, yes. Particularly the people making a big deal out of how this isn't actually a big deal.
i can't believe someone would go an write an entire paragraph about One (1) tweet
they must not have enough going on in their life
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