This is like music to my ears - I had completely stopped playing strikes. There is just no point to do any of them at the moment really.
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How Bungie is going to improve Destiny 2
- Thread starter benzopil
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This makes me very hopeful for things to come.
They know what they did last summer.
They are fixing it.
Believe.
They know what they did last summer.
They are fixing it.
Believe.
The bigger PvP maps for D1 were pretty fun even if chaotic and I agree that it probably would have been quite enjoyable if they expanded on that for the non competitive playlists.
Good Start, but honestly going to need NEW content soon. There is simply nothing left for me to do. They made the grind so easy that it takes very little to hit max level and do everything you want to do. I used to play crucible a lot back in D1, but its just not as fun as it once was so... Destiny 2 is currently collecting dust. But i am glad to see they are working on the endgame problem.
Ultimately? Yeah.
Right now? No.
The amount of content is not the problem right now. The lack of reasons to engage with it is.
In a world where you get end game loot literally for just showing up every tuesday, where public events shower you in exotics and where the hardest content fails to provide anything for completing it, MORE irrelevant content is not the answer.
All systems need to be tuned drastically.
We need carrots.
On way longer sticks.
What's odd is that Destiny 2 itself was supposed to be a statement... the game that showed everyone they did listen and that Destiny 2 is the game the original was supposed to be, if not more.
And here we are just over a month after launch, hearing PR about how the game will be made better.
And here we are just over a month after launch, hearing PR about how the game will be made better.
I think that selling games where grind itself is the content is the problem. Companies don't want to hear that though because with grind comes more sales of DLC, micros, etc. As a result they aren't actively working on making truly great products, but instead are spending more time finding ways to trick us into buying the next big thing that, surprise surprise, is still a grind fest.
This year has been labeled the death of single player experiences but sales say otherwise. Studios should pay attention to that.
I dont understand, didnt they play the first destiny? How can you ship this game in these conditions knowing the issues the first game had. It just absolutely baffles me that they could make the same mistakes 2 times in a row.
100% agreed. They took all the wrong lessons from Destiny 1 and removed any reason we had to actually play the game in the interest of shortening time to get loot. So now they shower you with garbage and there's no things to actually work towards.
As someone that just doesn't have time to raid I'm glad I can reach the cap and get geared without doing so. The issue to me isn't the gear. It's the lack of compelling reasons to play once it's obtained. More content is key.
My friends didn't quit because everyone got too much loot. The bounced because things like iron banner weren't fun. And everything was a Mida fest.
Destiny 2 was clearly an offshoot of the Destiny 1 branch and was developed at the same time as all the good fixes and additions were put into D1. That's why none of it was really implemented because the D2 devs were coming up with their own ideas while the D1 liveteam would implement theirs.
Thats a terrible way to make a sequel. Especially on a game like this.
IC, but I think you´re coming at it from a different angle than the hardcore playerbase.
That´s perfectly OK of course. You want more content just like I can´t wait for HZD´s DLC.
D2 has a better first impression but yeah, i also preferred D1 now. I didnt get fed up THIS fast in D1.
What can they come up with in a hot minute that they couldn't figure out in the 2+ years the game was in development? The game is beautifully crafted and the shooting still feels pretty good but once you've gotten to 305 which doesn't take long there isn't any incentive to continue playing. Doesn't seem like this list will do much to combat that sadly.
I don't see Hawkmoon in that list.
I've only been playing for 3 days (PC) but I have already experience some of the issues addressed here (I don't need 3 Coldhearts Bungie).
Strikes will give you multiple LEGENDARY w/chance of Exotics. They did this on D1 already, no surprise.
I do wonder how much the delayed PC release has impacted the console community in the sense they had to wait longer for the drip of extra content/fixes.
I've only been playing for 3 days (PC) but I have already experience some of the issues addressed here (I don't need 3 Coldhearts Bungie).
Strikes will give you multiple LEGENDARY w/chance of Exotics. They did this on D1 already, no surprise.
I do wonder how much the delayed PC release has impacted the console community in the sense they had to wait longer for the drip of extra content/fixes.
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Totally agree. I can't believe how useless they made strikes. There is literally zero reason to run them right now.
yes, this is something i find D1 did so much better which is why it suprises me that they completely fucked it up in 2. They took away all the mystery, all the discovery and everything is on the god damn map. Its honestly not interesting to just go in and explore cause i know where everything is gonna be at all times, the minute it happens. Why would they think this is a good decision..... Man, what a damn shame. Another Destiny game that needs to be completely reworked. lol just ridiculous.
These QoL patches sound great. They wont do much to re-energize a lot of the community, but hopefully will make sticking around a lot easier when the first expansion drops. I just hope these changes have detracted from or slowed down their progress on getting the first expansion ready. If it gets delayed, thats going to suck. Cant wait for new content.
no doubt. the game will get better just like D1 > RoI
but in the meantime let's hate on it :D
/s
Nice that I'll be able to do something with my thousands of legendary shards in a few months.
Hopefully they'll clean up the vault, too; add different filters/sorting to make it easier to find stuff.
Hopefully they'll clean up the vault, too; add different filters/sorting to make it easier to find stuff.
While Destiny 2 did have an awful development period (again), there was never any reason for D2 to feel smaller in scale for everything compared to end of life D1. For the most part D2 is Destiny 2.0 and not an actual sequel.
I personally call it "Destiny B" with "Destiny A" being D1 at the time of Taken King and onward.
"Destiny B" basically takes a snapshot of D1 at the time of the split, then implements their own ideas of how to solve it's problems and goes from there.
Looking forward to hearing more details as they come along. I definitely have some concerns with the end game stuff, but I can't deny that I still mostly have a good time when playing Destiny 2... when I'm not running into bugs and stuff at least. I honestly expected the game to be in a better state than it currently was given how big Bungie has become, but imagine that things will improve for the most part. I thought so with the first game anyway.
Yes, theres no doubt it will improve but i mean, why make the same mistakes over again and top of new ones? All they had to do what take what D1 was at the end and add, rework and improve on that. It didnt need to be started over only to have the games core be rebuilt.....again. I mean, learn from your mistakes.
The thing I like about Destiny is that it is the sort of game where you hit a wall, take a break to play new releases and then go back and forth to it as the content keeps coming out. Whereas, some games I am just one and done, despite whatever DLC releases. But much like the first one after a love/hate relationship, I eventually settled on love and just kept going back to it. It's the same sort of deal here.
I agree even though I hit the wall much faster with D2 than I did with D1 due to less customization for builds and fixed rolls which was sort of a bummer. It is nice to take a break, let them fix some things, and I'll be ready to get sucked back in all over again when DLC1 drops.
It's that addictive gameplay loop. It is just so fun to play, that you always get sucked right back in.
Im just expecting each of those to be attached to a single d-pad direction and nothing more.
Honestly the perfect system would be to have a type of emote on each d-pad direction (up for greetings, down for responses, left for silly, right for dances) and you would just single, double or triple tap for which one you want. Im still kinda suprised the emote system wasn't overhauled to begin with.
This. I'm almost more excited to see where Destiny 2 as a game goes, rather than where it is now. I feel like the base-gameplay of the game is fun to play, but I hit a wall pretty quick after I hit LL.
Part of me also wishes that they maybe take a few notes from their new friends at Blizzard to see how they could implement some end-game systems into D2. Rep overhauls would be something that I would personally love to see updated.
I agree. I dropped D1 soon after launch but once I returned with TTK, it was much improved.
If the datamine from the PC version is to be believed, we should be getting a lot more stuff very soon to complement these new systems.
Id be shocked if they weren't.
I bet they knew before the game launched in Sept. what the complaints were going to be.
All these changes sound great. I'll come crashing back in for some more Destiny. I freakin love it. Vanilla has finally run its course for me this week, but ill be ready for more in December.
*In the Live team we trust*
Sounds good, but we need execution. Ripping out all the endgame loops (most bad) and not replacing them was a pretty poor decision. Now they have to spend resources that should be expanding D2 into bringing back ideas and code that worked well from the end of year 3.
Sounds good, but we need execution. Ripping out all the endgame loops (most bad) and not replacing them was a pretty poor decision. Now they have to spend resources that should be expanding D2 into bringing back ideas and code that worked well from the end of year 3.
Depends, what are you looking for? W2 seems like a solid Narrative driven FPS, D2 is a little lite on things to do after the Main story, but still fun.
