Gaming Industry is console centric, where Microsoft is distance third when it comes to popularity
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How come Age of Empires 4 was the biggest game in regards to metrics at X019, but it doesn't seem that way on Era?
- Thread starter SuikerBrood
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ngl, Civ VI didn't quite click for me when I played it at launch.
Pc gaming is actually pretty... massive.
Era is, to put it generously, not entirely representative.
...What? Many of the biggest PC games in the world right now are strategy games. They're nowhere near niche in PC communities.
I'm one of those diehards who still plays Civ 4 sometimes. It's been out of Steam's top played list for an eternity though.
Somehow VI has just never resonated with me very well.
Somehow VI has just never resonated with me very well.
It's the perfect introduction to the genre, a timeless classic, and can be run on pretty much anything at this point.
Makes a lot of sense, I think.
Nah Age of Empires just has that type of clout. Out of all the games revealed only Minecraft Dungeon has more name recognition.
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Well, you can never know for sure. But the AoE trailer also has the most likes of all these trailers.
AoE4: 27k likes
MSFS: 19k likes
Xbox Game Pass: 11k likes
EverWild: 5k likes
Grounded: 2.7k likes (and 6k dislikes)
Tell Me Why: 4.2k likes (and 1.5k dislikes)
I've not played a ton of Age of Empires II, but aesthetically speaking, I always loved the way the game looks. Welcome changes I've seen from the trailer so far seem to include 360 degree turning of buildings and walls that actually mesh properly across different levels of elevation instead of just being individual blocks that just seem to stack next each other. Lots of of foliage on the ground and the wheat patches on the farms look really nice. Not to mention, all the soldiers atop of the castle walls is really neat, as are the destruction animations. Really super hyped for this!
I was answering the ops questions in regards to this forum but your not wrong in regards to MS popularity. However the games industry is actually quite mobile centric, and PC also generates more revenue than console gaming.
I'm not sure of what you mean. Money MS has plenty of that.
Well System Shock 3 traielr or news didn't get as many attention here but a Bioshock news or game will always get more. i don't blame anyone here, most of them aren't that old to have grown up with sereis as important as AOE or System Shock. they staretd with mid 2000 famous games which are a rehash and simplified cloens of very advanced old games like those so the importance that such gets games get are thanks to pure affection and nostalgia from old gamers.
Even aside from Era being a bubble or not, I just don't think it's the kind of trailer that generates a lot of discussion. People weren't mad about it, but there wasn't enough info to generate a lot of discussion. It's like... the least controversial thing they could have shown. Even around here there will probably be way more talk once the game releases or there's a big info blowout.
On a personal level, I'm always wary of getting majorly involved with the strategy game scene. For whatever reason a significant chunk of the hardcore strategy audience is always weirdly libertarian and/or paleoconservative and it skeeves me out. Not saying that it's true for anything more than say... a third of the strategy community, but they're always very hardcore about it. At least in my experience.
On a personal level, I'm always wary of getting majorly involved with the strategy game scene. For whatever reason a significant chunk of the hardcore strategy audience is always weirdly libertarian and/or paleoconservative and it skeeves me out. Not saying that it's true for anything more than say... a third of the strategy community, but they're always very hardcore about it. At least in my experience.
Yeah, Total War: Warhammer 2 is one of the biggest and shiniest games on PC. Its production values are bananas.
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It has many people who don't really care about games in general, and they just know only the wow etc.
That's why I chose the word industry. You can see that resetera is representative of how the industry sees gaming(ex. events, big games etc)
Imo resetera is 100% representative of what is happening out there. Sony, Nintendo and then xbox pc.
Either way, resetera is a free gaming forum without labels, not a ghetto.
The trailer isnt all that much to go by tbh too.
The AOE2 youtuber i watch that has been making AOE videos since youtube was 360p only made a 1 min 40s video on it.
The AOE2 youtuber i watch that has been making AOE videos since youtube was 360p only made a 1 min 40s video on it.
This is myopic, to say the least. Like, incredibly so. But whatever.
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The destruction in the trailer didn't impress me that much tbh. What they've done with the 2d destruction in AoE2 looks really impressive. I guess it's hard to mimic this in AoE4.
We used to have a decent-sized PC audience on here, but many were made to feel unwelcome and left.
Someone that plays just wow doesn't count. But we count the players that just play Madden?
If WOW players dont count as PC gamers, console audience in europe can be halved, since most console people i know just play Fifa every year.
It's also a really weird game choice, as the people that only play WOW are probably some of the ones that generate the most money for the games industry.
Era is a console focused forum id say and one where lets be real....any Xbox focused thread besides the OT turns into complete shit. Has 2 pretty big things going against it to blow up here but on Youtube, Reddit and anywhere else should be fine
I remember the pages and pages of arguments about whether or not Dota and league of legends counted as 'real' games.
It was pretty fast at 1.2 million. Like within a day and it became trending for a moment on twitter.
Even the IGN vid has 444k views
Even a quick interview has 170k views
Why are you surprised?
Console-centric forum heavily skewed to AAA cinematic games and japanese title.
Three Kingdoms came out and sold over 1 million copies in one week, record of the series.
Civilization 6 sold 5 million copies
When SEGA announced HUMANKIND for PC we had people legit pissed because "UH A STRATEGIC GAME, WHACK", despite not knowing that a good chunck of SEGA revenue comes from PC and they european studios.
Talking about PC-centric titles on ERA is useless at this point.
Console-centric forum heavily skewed to AAA cinematic games and japanese title.
Three Kingdoms came out and sold over 1 million copies in one week, record of the series.
Civilization 6 sold 5 million copies
When SEGA announced HUMANKIND for PC we had people legit pissed because "UH A STRATEGIC GAME, WHACK", despite not knowing that a good chunck of SEGA revenue comes from PC and they european studios.
Talking about PC-centric titles on ERA is useless at this point.
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Only way to change this is to talk about these games more. And to open threads about them.
In my case, because I had no idea there was a video at XO19. I don't have an XBox and am not interested in its games, so I didn't follow the event.
I am looking forward to AoEIV on PC though. That trailer certainly looked nice, but didn't have much for me to sink my teeth into.
I am looking forward to AoEIV on PC though. That trailer certainly looked nice, but didn't have much for me to sink my teeth into.
Even if this was true (and it isn't), Age of Empires IV isn't Xbox focused or related. It's a Windows 10 game.
Gaming under microsoft is Xbox. Its an Xbox game which is why when you launch the game it will have Xbox Game Studios splashed all over it just like Age of Empires 2 DE which just released.
(and yeah pretty much every thread regarding xbox on Era turns to shit by the first page lol)
Yes. I am surprised at how little noise there is when they announce Total War expansions, with how popular they are.
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Xbox is their gaming brand. This discussion will be really confusing when xCloud becomes more mainstream. You won't really need a box. Age of Empires is a Microsoft IP, just like Halo. And they'll both be in Xbox Game Pass.
Yes, it was, but when was that? In their hay day RTS games were huge, but their popularity defined waned. It was always one of those Dad genres, so there may be a huge untapped market out there still. One that doesn't care too much about current fads. Trying not to make that sound like a bad thing, there was also a big flight sim following, so feels like Microsoft are trying to bring elements of that casual PC market back on board.
Are you new to these types of forums? This is a predominantly console centric forum, it always has been really, even at the old site. Add to that, RTS games are among the less popular genres on these boards too, so for AoE it's a double whammy.
That said, I'm personally very much looking forward to it, though I can't say I'm anywhere near as hyped for it as I am for many other titles.
That said, I'm personally very much looking forward to it, though I can't say I'm anywhere near as hyped for it as I am for many other titles.