I am that guy...Suicide Squad kill the justice league is the first in game story i liked and cared about since Mafia 3
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Yeah, I quite enjoyed the story overall, the characters aren't even characters I enjoy, and yet I found myself connecting with them because of how they were written (well, I should put boomerang on the exception list there, I can't really stand him). It's sad that no matter what people were gonna hate the game, since it was basically the "designated target" for anti GAAS sentiment, alongside Skull and Bones, because underneath the poor mission variety and bad performance, there's a pretty solid game (and fun, too!)
This is the same game where they explain why Deadshot is black is because the white Deadshot was actually from another universe and for 10-12 years (might be shorter because Rocksteady actively goes out of its way to ignore Origins) no one knew.
Hell, Harley in the Arkham Universe never has the moment where she realizes "Joker is abusive and is preying on her". She was ride or die for him the entire series. Even got excited when he was coming back because he gave his blood to random people needing blood donations.
Arkham Harley has extremely fragile footing when it comes to claiming a moral high ground against Batman for inflicting trauma.
But then again, Arkham Batman is also an asshole.
Asides from Origins, I am comfortable saying the writing in the Arkham games kinda sucks
Hell, Harley in the Arkham Universe never has the moment where she realizes "Joker is abusive and is preying on her". She was ride or die for him the entire series. Even got excited when he was coming back because he gave his blood to random people needing blood donations.
Arkham Harley has extremely fragile footing when it comes to claiming a moral high ground against Batman for inflicting trauma.
But then again, Arkham Batman is also an asshole.
Asides from Origins, I am comfortable saying the writing in the Arkham games kinda sucks
Yeah I enjoyed the story personally. Definitely worth watching on Youtube if you don't want to play it (lol).
Yeah, having Mafia 3 as a high water mark really just says to me that OP chooses to play video games with mediocre stories.
Eh, I haven't played Suicide Squad but I could see it work if they're going for a specific tone. There's weird stuff in The Boys that would sound equally as weird taken out of context.
Also, and I asked my friend who likes Arkham games that I played with at the time: Wasn't Harley pregnant with Jokers kid in the trilogy? What happened with that plotline? Same with Harley and Ivy being a thing now that wasn't something I can recall from the bits I've seen from the previous Arkham games.
It definitely felt like they skipped from 'Arkham Bottom Bitch Harley" to "Modern mainstream Harley" without really doing any of the legwork.
Have not played it for silly reasons, in that i don't care for the Suicide Squad at all and love the Justice League a lot more, as in, i genuinely like any of the Jl members in the game more than all the Suicide Squad members in the game combined, and that i think they would be a lot more fun to play.
And thus i just don't want to pay 70 bucks to have Deadshot kill Superman, sorry, but the movies absolutely did not make me like him or others more than Superman, like, the very premise and theme of the story make me lose my interest, i don't care if there are a 1000 comic stories where the Justice League die, i just don't want to shoot and kill any of them.
And thus i just don't want to pay 70 bucks to have Deadshot kill Superman, sorry, but the movies absolutely did not make me like him or others more than Superman, like, the very premise and theme of the story make me lose my interest, i don't care if there are a 1000 comic stories where the Justice League die, i just don't want to shoot and kill any of them.
If the only two story-driven games you have played in the last 8 years are this and Starfield, I can see how you came to this conclusion.
Otherwise this statement is bananas.
Otherwise this statement is bananas.
This implies their sole non-batman game is far and away their best, which is a take I respect.
It was a false positive. In the Arkham City DLC Harley's Revenge there is a room with a bunch of negative tests on the floor. As for Harley and Ivy, I don't think they were a thing like you see in a lot of recent Harley centric stories.
This is why I think setting SSKTJL in the "Arkham Universe" was a huge blunder because of the baggage and how poorly handled it is. They throw so many possible plotlines and easter eggs that go nowhere. The true ending of Knight is probably the worst offender because SS makes it meaningless.
Telling me this Harley is the same one from the Arkham trilogy does not fly. If it was set in a vaccum sure, but connecting it to Arkham actually makes the whole thing worse. Not because I think Arkham is a pinnacle of story telling, but the fact Rocksteady just says shit that is so insane, neglect anything that wasn't made by them making any supplemental Arkham games/comics/etc not made by Rocksteady completely useless and expect people to care about this universe.
Deadshot being from another universe for 15 years and no one knew is the most insane thing Rocksteady has tried to say about their games eclipsing "The Arkham Knight is a completely new character to the DC universe. He is definitely not Jason Todd"
Got retconned away in the Arkham City DLC. Someone from WB wasn't happy with the idea of Harley and Joker having a kid, I presume...
I'm curious to know what you liked so much about Mafia 3? I thought its story was incredibly half baked, especially because you pretty much just rinse and repeat taking down 4 separate mob bosses before going for the leader. It seemed like a pretty by-the-numbers story with nothing exceptional.
In comparison, there are some incredible standout examples of writing in games like Disco Elysium, Psychonauts 2, Red Dead Redemption 2, etc. I could name more that I think are great too like TLOU2 but don't want to derail the thread lmao
In comparison, there are some incredible standout examples of writing in games like Disco Elysium, Psychonauts 2, Red Dead Redemption 2, etc. I could name more that I think are great too like TLOU2 but don't want to derail the thread lmao
I was hoping this game would do better. Not in a "yay corporations!" sense or even because I myself liked it and wanted more seasons, but just because I feel like we'll get more DC video games if these projects succeed.
I do think Rocksteady was out of gas with the Arkham franchise and thought mixing things up sounded good.
I was one of those Avengers people though, and just didn't want to go through that again.
I do think Rocksteady was out of gas with the Arkham franchise and thought mixing things up sounded good.
I was one of those Avengers people though, and just didn't want to go through that again.
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The story was route, but the acting elevated. Specially the interview scenes. The dude that played the FBI dude killeed it
I have so many other games I need to play and get back to, but I find myself always giving an hour or two for this game each night. Traversing around just demolishing grunts just feels so fun. One of the rare third person shooter to really get it right, almost as tight as Destiny is for FPSes.
I read a lot of social media content so I sympathize with having high standards in writing :P
There's a lot of junk out there for sure but I just can't relate to nothin good in that span of time. This is low hanging fruit but you play TLOU, OP? For a AAA game I think that's a pretty decent example of good writing in a game with excellent characterization. You cited Starfield as a disappointment, well I'm not sure Bethesda rpgs have ever really had great writing tbh. They're serviceable for basic quest delivery but not super compelling beyond that.
Disco Elysium has maybe the best for exposition/narration prose so give that a try. BG3 ain't too shabby either. If you like environmental storytelling (the less dialogue the better), The Outer Wilds and INSIDE are up there. Expand your horizons.
There's a lot of junk out there for sure but I just can't relate to nothin good in that span of time. This is low hanging fruit but you play TLOU, OP? For a AAA game I think that's a pretty decent example of good writing in a game with excellent characterization. You cited Starfield as a disappointment, well I'm not sure Bethesda rpgs have ever really had great writing tbh. They're serviceable for basic quest delivery but not super compelling beyond that.
Disco Elysium has maybe the best for exposition/narration prose so give that a try. BG3 ain't too shabby either. If you like environmental storytelling (the less dialogue the better), The Outer Wilds and INSIDE are up there. Expand your horizons.
How is Batman foiling her plans to kill and harm people traumatising her? lol Harlie being an anti-hero type character has always been janky imo.
Even if you excuse the character writing, the plot/scene structure from cutscene to scene is just terrible. Like others mentioned, so many examples of them just standing around staring at events not actually doing anything because there's no way you can logically explain evil Superman not instantly layering them, mach speed decapitating them instantly. It's just all so poorly conceived.
Also fyi just because you've read some books doesn't mean you have high standards lol lemme guess one of them is Ready Player One/Two
Even if you excuse the character writing, the plot/scene structure from cutscene to scene is just terrible. Like others mentioned, so many examples of them just standing around staring at events not actually doing anything because there's no way you can logically explain evil Superman not instantly layering them, mach speed decapitating them instantly. It's just all so poorly conceived.
Also fyi just because you've read some books doesn't mean you have high standards lol lemme guess one of them is Ready Player One/Two
It's a terrific game for those people who hate DC heroes and enjoy seeing them humiliated and mutilated. Happily there don't seem to be many of them.
This what's making me scratch my head throughout this whole thing, we've seen so many incarnations of these characters, why is one where they lose being taken so personally as if they should be untouchable. No, I don't hate DC heroes, this is just something different.
I'm probably one of the biggest DC fans in this forum and yeah, I can't fathom it either. This is a Suicide Squad story. Everything's fair game. If this was a Justice League game and they get stomped and humiliated, sure, make the argument. But it's like people often say, media literacy is dead.
I loved GotG. I wish those story and characters were packaged in a much better game. It's not bad, but it felt very archaic in game design. Not a whole lot to do.
In that case is it the writing that you liked or the performances by the cast? I could see that being a similarity between SS and Mafia 3 cause I'm sure the actors in SS got to chew up a lot of scenery. But then I'm sure a lot of people here could point you to a bunch of games with absolutely incredible performances.
"99% of game writing is terrible. Anyway let me tell you why Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League is the best written game of the decade."
Uh huh, okay. I don't even have a problem with you enjoying Suicide Squad (I haven't played it, I can't comment on its quality and don't have any problem with it) but the whole "99% of game writing" thing is just such a thoughtless, outdated opinion not based in reality and a weird way to put your preferences on a pedestal.
Uh huh, okay. I don't even have a problem with you enjoying Suicide Squad (I haven't played it, I can't comment on its quality and don't have any problem with it) but the whole "99% of game writing" thing is just such a thoughtless, outdated opinion not based in reality and a weird way to put your preferences on a pedestal.
Shame on you people! How can you question OP's high standards. He reads books ffs! Books!
