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If Spider-Man: Far From Home doesn't make a billion (which it will), Sony is no longer contractually obligated to work with Marvel
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Disney won't let Spider-Man get away again. Behind the scenes everything is probably very fine.
How much did Marvel really have over those though? Or Sony's take on Spider-Man? They seem more like producers and not creative controllers in those cases
It sounds like if it underperforms, it just gives them an option to terminate the contract early?
Eh, Far From Home is already well over $600m. I don't think they would do that. Even if it falls short of a billy (it won't) it will still be the highest grossing Spidey flick yet. MCU Spidey isn't going anywhere.
Eh, Far From Home is already well over $600m. I don't think they would do that. Even if it falls short of a billy (it won't) it will still be the highest grossing Spidey flick yet. MCU Spidey isn't going anywhere.
And if it makes over $1.000.000.100, Avi Arad will finally greenlight the Trouble movie we all deserve.
It more confusing that Marvel are clearly setting up Spider Man to be next Iron Man/Captain America importance in next phase of films. They know it kind of temporary but still pushing him this much.
I don't know about that one chief.
Spideyverse and the Spider-man game are both at the top of their classes tbh
Can't imagine a world without them.
Venom was entertaining in how bad it was, but by no means do I want it to continue
Sony Pictures is a complete diferent beast from the game company. They also don´t own the exclusive rights from Spidey games (they own the Ps4 game)
Imagine if someone came to you and said "Hey, you don't have to go to work any more. I'll go to your job and do all your work and then you'll get not only your full paycheck but MORE. All you have to do is just stay home and relax."
Would you be fighting this to get into the office and sabotage everything?
Would you be fighting this to get into the office and sabotage everything?
Clearly they're pulling for a big ol' Secret Wars event movie. Get Deadpool in on the action, give us a Deadpool: Bed, Bath, and Beyonder movie
Spider-Verse was good because of the creators' vision behind it and Sony Pictures Animation division talent, not because Sony as a studio alone did something right. They consistently fuck up their attempts to create cinematic universes so Spider-Verse is what it is because of the talent behind it not the studio.
Yeah, that is the risk we're all facing. Sony overrates their own competence.
So just 1 more movie? Sony, don't be stupid and just renew the contract. You can have venom vs carnage and make a fortune there while Marvel makes you another one in the MCU.
Homecoming and FFH cost less than TAS tho. If anything Marvel is actually conservative with the budget (160 million is smaller than most of their films)
But if they signed a contract allowing marvel to make a 3rd movie if the second movie made a billion, it means they don't actually have full control.
This seems crazy to me. They must be ridiculously confident they can keep control going forward or have a great backup plan just in case.
Which spidey-verse? The one with one so-so Venom movie and an as-of-yet unconnected animated movie?
Oops, I read spideryverse as vernacular for the movie universe, Instead of just for the animated movie.
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Starting to think they revealed his identity as a sort of kill switch for the series. If Sony were to pull out (they won't), they'd have a hell of a time writing any more movies without help from the MCU lol
In any case, it's time for Spidey to come home, like his mutant brethren before him. Venom coming out last year was more than enough reason for me to want to pull the plug on this rights thing, even with Spider-Verse being phenomenal. The pros aren't gonna outweigh the cons on this one for much longer.
Neither of those have anything to do with Sony's movie department.
I get all that i'm referring to the poster saying Sony should hand all the rights back to Marvel & MCU
There is clearly a symbiotic (heh) relationship between the two. And i don't think any of them give a shit when they are making bank left and right off the most popular superhero
You would if you thought you could piggyback off their efforts and return to make even more than they did.
This is the problem, and it's why they keep insisting Spidey films drop every two years damn near.
I highly suggest you read the OP again, chief.
Well you would if you seen the venom numbers and started to get cocky
My guess is that it's intentional, if Marvel/Disney make Spider-Man an extremely prominent part of the MCU they know Sony pulling out will cause a pretty major backlash against Sony from Spider-man/MCU fans. Of course it's a bit of a double edged sword since Sony can potentially ask for more from Disney to keep him in the MCU since Marvel made him so prominent and popular in the MCU.
You would think so but we're talking about Sony's movie division here so you never know.
Ahh i see what you are saying specifically for the MCU
I agree. Sony should just let Marvel handle all the characters and the MCU. It's pretty obvious the quality control and bank to be made from it
But Sony already made the best Spider-Man movie yet in Spider-verse. not to mention how well they brought Venom to film(turd in the wind aside). Sure ASM1&2 were busts, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try another live action spider-man ever again. Spider man 1 and 2 used to be the gold standard for superhero films after all.
After FFH I'm fine with them doing new Spidey films every other year, as long as they're not driving Watts and the cast into the ground. These movies are so damn fun, I want as much out of these characters as possible. Hell, if they can crank out stuff like Spider-Verse on top of it, I wouldn't mind annual Spider-Man movies either. The last four years have been a goldmine of Spidey films.
Within 18 months, Sony Pictures will have released Far From Home, Morbius and Venom.
Your logic only makes sense if Marvel Studios will produce 2-3 Spider-Man related films per year in order to make it worth it for Sony Pictures to not create their own Spider-Man related films.
Everyone go watch Bloodshot and hope that Valiant Cinematic Universe takes off, as well as Ghostbusters and Masters of the Universe, so Sony is less reliant on the Sony Universe of Marvel Characters.
I just hope I'll be dead before Sony take Spiderman out of the MCU to make their own Spiderman movies. It's inevitable.
So they can do their cinematic universe with venom and try to make money that way without disney involved.
The shittyness of spidey films by Sony is inevitable, it's gonna strike us sooner or later
Honestly might as well make this a Spidey vs Venom vs Carnage and friends movie. If it's bad at least go out with a bang Holland!
Honestly might as well make this a Spidey vs Venom vs Carnage and friends movie. If it's bad at least go out with a bang Holland!
I imagine if Sony is taking away Spidey away from MCU. Feige could just kill Spider-man in MCU as some sort of inciting incident that will start the next big event or whatever
He could but that'd be basically a massive turn from whatever was planned. Essentially he has to have two big plans. And there's gotta be a lot of leeway in case anything is tied up with Spidey at the time the contracts get iffy.
And if he was taken away they could only really background kill him. Can't film anything new or have anything new, so it'd be weird as fuck.
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