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Trojita

Trojita

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Oct 25, 2017
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The unprofessional piece on Rod Rosentein is a long list of reporting NYT seems committed to keeping putting out; jeopardizing our democracy by obstructing or misrepresenting facts. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore. I know they grew a lot of subscriptions in 2016 and 2017, and the only way I could see anyone get the message up their on their editorial board is if their subscriptions start dropping.
 
Darryl M R

Darryl M R

The Spectacular PlayStation-Man
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Oct 25, 2017
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Any good recommendations for a nice news segment in the morning when I tell Alexa to play my flash briefing?
 
Ukraine

Ukraine

Banned
Jun 1, 2018
2,182
Out of ll the bullshit that is out there I find it incredibly stupid that liberals keep picking NYT as a target. Sure, some of the reporting they do is not up to journalistic standards, but it's still way better than 90% of news sources out there.

The reaction to Rosentein story is especially weird. I mean is anyone doubting that it's true? What's your issue with it?
 
Razgriz417

Razgriz417

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Oct 25, 2017
9,117
yup they were my go to news source, now they seem to be trying to do everything they can to stay in the WH to sell papers. fuck em
 
Darryl M R

Darryl M R

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ukraine said:
Out of ll the bullshit that is out there I find it incredibly stupid that liberals keep picking NYT as a target. Sure, some of the reporting they do is not up to journalistic standards, but it's still way better than 90% of news sources out there.

The reaction to Rosentein story is especially weird. I mean is anyone doubting that it's true? What's your issue with it?
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Sounds like there is 10% worth reading instead.
 
Mortemis

Mortemis

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,440
I'm glad we're done with the whole "support NY Times because Trump is tough on them!" shtick. They don't deserve everyone's cheer-leading.
 
Darryl M R

Darryl M R

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Ukraine said:
Fox News is trying to dismiss it as always. Not sure what point you are making. Do you really not believe the story?
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MSNBC says it has sources of people in the room who said it was an obvious sarcastic joke. NYT says it primary sources were not in the room.

Kthulhu said:
NPR News Hour. It's updated hourly with new segments and only lasts 4 minutes.
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That's what I listen to now but I enjoy a longer briefing while eating breakfast.
 
Ukraine

Ukraine

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Jun 1, 2018
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Trojita said:
That he mentioned taping him as a joke?
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That after talking to Trump for 5 minutes any sane human being would say that this person should be impeached and that we need as many evidence that Trump is delusional as possible. I don't doubt that there are weekly meetings in justice department where people share the most insane Trump recordings, because why not? Freaking Omarosa taped Trump in white house.
 
Ebullientprism

Ebullientprism

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Oct 25, 2017
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User warned: hostility, inflammatory community generalization
Hahahahahaha. So they are no longer #resistance? What about WaPo? Are they the resistance now?

This place is fucking dumb as shit sometimes.
 
OrdinaryPrime

OrdinaryPrime

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Oct 27, 2017
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Darryl M R said:
Any good recommendations for a nice news segment in the morning when I tell Alexa to play my flash briefing?
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NPR has one. They also have a 10-15 minute podcast in the morning that I listen to on my way to work which does a deeper dive.

Ebullientprism said:
Hahahahahaha. So they are no longer #resistance? What about WaPo? Are they the resistance now?

This place is fucking dumb as shit sometimes.
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Scuffed

Scuffed

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Oct 28, 2017
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I like the Times especially their stuff exposing Weinstein and the various predators in general. No one else touched that shit except Ronan and the New Yorker. I don't agree with everything in the paper but that's ok.
 
Mammoth Jones

Mammoth Jones

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Oct 25, 2017
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New York
Not canceling the news every time they report shit I don't like or in a way I don't like. I'd be changing news services every week. Ain't got times for that.
 
ginger ninja

ginger ninja

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't like the news and therefore it must have an agenda !

Seriously, no one ever complained when NYT leaked the chaos from inside the white House or reports on Trump's dirty laundry but for one time it paints the other side in a bad light (even if it was a joke and Trump was looking for an excuse anyway) it's suddenly all bad.
 
EnlightenedMint

EnlightenedMint

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Oct 25, 2017
2,391
Giving blind, complete support to any news organization is pointless.

Their Iraq War coverage should have been more than enough for people to be skeptical of them, doesn't mean they don't have good journalists in their ranks.
 
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Trojita

Trojita

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Oct 25, 2017
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ginger ninja said:
I don't like the news and therefore it must have an agenda !

Seriously, no one ever complained when NYT leaked the chaos from inside the white House or reports on Trump's dirty laundry but for one time it paints the other side in a bad light (even if it was a joke and Trump was looking for an excuse anyway) it's suddenly all bad.
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Most reporting on the inside of the white house appears to be factual. This was a bumbling on a piece and misrepresenting it. That has severe consequences.

NYT even admits that the people their anonymous witnesses weren't even in the room with Rosenstein.
 
Kirbivore

Kirbivore

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ginger ninja said:
I don't like the news and therefore it must have an agenda !

Seriously, no one ever complained when NYT leaked the chaos from inside the white House or reports on Trump's dirty laundry but for one time it paints the other side in a bad light (even if it was a joke and Trump was looking for an excuse anyway) it's suddenly all bad.
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They were responsible for the War in Iraq
 
jph139

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
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No news source is your ally. They're all big businesses, and as organizations, their only interests are accruing wealth.

Business are not your friends, even if they're on your side. Just because Trump's media crusade is heinous doesn't mean they're heroes all of a sudden.
 
MrRob

MrRob

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Oct 26, 2017
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But I really like "The Daily" podcast. Though I do agree the paper has sadly tuned into a rag. Some if there reporter covet their access more than reporting factually and that is a real shame.

Wapo is so much better. I wish they did a comprehensive morning podcast instead of just a quick 7 minute daily thought.
 
Double 0

Double 0

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Nov 5, 2017
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NYT had historically been shitty, because they are the status quo Mag. And when you are talking issues like:

Nazis pre and during WW2
Vietnam
The Iraq War
Etc.

They have messed up a lot. It's partially why the Post is so important.

They do get it right in many cases though. But to me, I can't fuck with a status quo mag, because the US status quo has always sucked.
 
Palette Swap

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Trojita said:
Most reporting on the inside of the white house appears to be factual. This was a bumbling on a piece and misrepresenting it. That has severe consequences.

NYT even admits that the people their anonymous witnesses weren't even in the room with Rosenstein.
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And knowing this, this is how they framed it and solid as a top news story that showed up in app alerts and every feed :

Rod Rosenstein once proposed secretly taping President Trump and removing him via the 25th Amendment.

That's some gutter level reporting, and an editor should be out of a job, not taking credit for it.
 
Ukraine

Ukraine

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Jun 1, 2018
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So, deliberately obtuse it is then. Because that's not what I'm doing.
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So if you not defending Rosentein that means you are OK with NYT portraying Rosentein in slightly different light than MSNBC? Because I truly don't understand why people give a shit if Rosentein was serious about impeaching and taping Trump. I think bigger news was always that Trump is such a shitty president that his appointee was considering/joking about about impeaching and taping him within days of appointment.
 
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