You're asking if I would hire them if I magically found out they're a MAGA shitheel?
Hmmm, let me think...
No.
Hmmm, let me think...
No.
Right to work has literally nothing to do with what you just said.
Again with the "just political views". The things Trump and his supporters aspire to goes beyond just a difference of political opinion to a more fundamental question of morality and right and wrong. Things are so polarized now because the disagreements are so fundamental, they've gone beyond just politics. It seems to me you're not considering that idea and I'm not sure you really understood the original post (or the one I quoted).I think discrimination is a bad thing. I think discriminating against people because of their political views is intolerant and illiberal. I think the path that most people are following in here leads to increased polarisation and further poisoning of society. Which is why I'd definitely hire someone even if they have political views I disagree with. It would even marginally be a plus point, if they could articulate why they vote how they do.
Sounds good to me why would I want to work in an environment that is hostile to minorities, they're doing me a hard favor instead of me possibly having to eat shit having to deal with subtle racism. Like how is this even a hard question to answer.For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
Discrimination against discrimination is not the same as discrimination. Intolerance to intolerance is not the same as intolerance.I think discrimination is a bad thing. I think discriminating against people because of their political views is intolerant and illiberal. I think the path that most people are following in here leads to increased polarisation and further poisoning of society. Which is why I'd definitely hire someone even if they have political views I disagree with. It would even marginally be a plus point, if they could articulate why they vote how they do.
For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
It's not that much of a hypothetical. Employers routinely do background checks on future employees, and this often involves finding social media profiles.And yet I work with plenty of people who voted for Trump who have no track record of failing at those criteria in the commission of their work. Doesn't matter anyway since we'd never be allowed to ask the question.
If I wasn't hired because I chose not to be a racist I would be more than happy to know that that establishment operated with that in mind, they'd be doing me the favor. I would also likely publicly out them for not hiring me because I refused to be a racist.For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
If you're convinced that your president is a nazi, I'd expect you to form a weaponized rebellion and attack. That's the only reasonable course of action. Hitler didn't go away via words and votes.
And no, I'm not lashing out. I'm speaking realities.
For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
That'd be pretty tough unless it's a solo job. Most jobs require working with others and how well they would work with the rest of the team.
Unless my bank account is $0 and rent is due, why would I be upset that I was denied work from my would be Trump supporting manager?For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
That would be a waste of money and everyone's time, especially your own.Yes.
So I would have a chance to fire them for their first little slip up.
I would not want to work for someone who is a Trump supporter so no sweat off my back.For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
That'd be pretty tough unless it's a solo job. Most jobs require working with others and how well they would work with the rest of the team.
Unless the rest of the team are straight white men that kinda rules out a Trump supporter ever being "best person for the job."
I find it interesting that people readily equate Trump supporters with Nazis, racists, and idiots, rather than , say, the disenfranchised and ignored working classes .
It isn't much of a thought experiment tbh, they are not equitable things. Of course if someone is denied a job for not being a nazi that would be a bad thing.For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
You're gonna double down?I find it interesting that people readily equate Trump supporters with Nazis, racists, and idiots, rather than , say, the disenfranchised and ignored working classes .
It's really interesting that some people are comfortable ignoring incidents like charlottesville, many of the racists hirings Trump did for his administration, ignoring immigrant children torn from their families, ignoring the muslim travel ban, ignoring the wall rhetoric, ignoring Trump remarks about Mexican and pussy grabs(list could go on for way longer) rather than say own up to what they're actually supporting.I find it interesting that people readily equate Trump supporters with Nazis, racists, and idiots, rather than , say, the disenfranchised and ignored working classes .
Yup. I could almost buy this reasoning for voting for Trump initially. But if after two years plus and they are still happily supporting them, it's not about economic anxiety lol. You don't wear a MAGA hat for any other reason than you want people to know you're a shitheel, for example, and want to make minorities uncomfortable.I find it interesting that after two years of evidence that you're still in denial
It's really interesting that some people are comfortable ignoring incidents like charlottesville, many of the racists hirings Trump did for his administration, ignoring immigrant children torn from their families, ignoring the muslim travel ban, ignoring the wall rhetoric, ignoring Trump remarks about Mexican and pussy grabs(list could go on for way longer) rather than say own up to what they're actually supporting.
If they voted for Trump but keeps their political views to themselves, then yes. Although finding a quiet Trump supporter is almost unheard of.
They are either nazis/racist or they don't give a single iota of a fuck about nazi/fascist ideology being in the forefront of their preferred political party, which doesn't make them much better.I find it interesting that people readily equate Trump supporters with Nazis, racists, and idiots, rather than , say, the disenfranchised and ignored working classes .
I mean Trump supporters are naturally toxic human beings, why would I want a toxic person contaminating my workplace?For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
There are most definitely silent Trump supporters. But there certainly was more back then. Two years of Trump, it's like Trump is normalized now. They feel like they don't have to be shy about racist thoughts and feelings any longer since the president is broadcasting it out in the open. I've met one. My Sister's friend. She has never said she voted for Trump but it's plain as day she supports him. The rest are proud to support Trump, mostly for sticking it to the illegals and Blacks.Given the one-dimensional view many in this thread seem to have of people who pulled the lever for Trump, you'd think so. And yet, I remember the morning after the 2016 elections how shellshocked many Americans were since Trump trailing Hillary was practically the universal consensus in the weeks beforehand. And yet, he suddenly won the electoral college. It's almost as if there were large numbers of people who didn't wear their politics on their sleeve and didn't go around announcing their political leanings to everyone, yet voted R when nobody was paying attention.
If it's true that there are barely any Trump voters who keep their politics to themselves, why was 2016 such a shock to everybody?
Man, where do you work and are they hiring?