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IGN: Apple Says the New iPad Pro Is as Powerful as an Xbox One S
- Thread starter SuikerBrood
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I think it'd be great of a high end tablet could hold its weight against some of the lower-end current gen systems but I don't see the iPad's thin and light enclosure managing the thermals for sustained play. There would also need to be a universally accepted control option that could standardize games that could use a gamepad so that app developers could have some sort of standard to develop around -- maybe this already exists but just isn't utilized all that often since the marketplace still seems generally resistant to taking on traditional gaming experiences? I don't know.
My personal ideal is seeing big publishers and developers rally for a standardized gamepad setup on iOS and then using the platform to sell and distribute well-crafted ports of classic games. We kind of already see that going on right now (port quality is questionable and variable based on title and they all have to have redone touch based UIs), but I do dream of being able to buy an iPad with the intent of maybe having access to an old Wii or WiiU-style Virtual Console from Nintendo. Virtual Console app with IAPs for each individual game, basically, and every game on the service including great display options like pixel-perfect aspect ratio display options and good scanline and CRT-emulating filters. Personally, I'd love the hell out of that... At least ,legally, and not through the large variety of emulators available on mobile platforms. Those are great too but I'm personally hung up on trying to show some monetary support on titles (which is a whole other discussion).
Animal Crossing on Mobile in its more traditional form rather than Pocket Camp is also a dream... Or really just seeing the iPad Pro or something be seen as a more traditional gaming platform in general for less tech-demanding games.
EDIT: yes I realize the Switch is basically this but it doesn't have the huge screen form factor of the iPad nor access to a large range of functionality that the iPad achieve. I love the hell out of the Switch partially because it's the closest realization to this dream to date, though!
My personal ideal is seeing big publishers and developers rally for a standardized gamepad setup on iOS and then using the platform to sell and distribute well-crafted ports of classic games. We kind of already see that going on right now (port quality is questionable and variable based on title and they all have to have redone touch based UIs), but I do dream of being able to buy an iPad with the intent of maybe having access to an old Wii or WiiU-style Virtual Console from Nintendo. Virtual Console app with IAPs for each individual game, basically, and every game on the service including great display options like pixel-perfect aspect ratio display options and good scanline and CRT-emulating filters. Personally, I'd love the hell out of that... At least ,legally, and not through the large variety of emulators available on mobile platforms. Those are great too but I'm personally hung up on trying to show some monetary support on titles (which is a whole other discussion).
Animal Crossing on Mobile in its more traditional form rather than Pocket Camp is also a dream... Or really just seeing the iPad Pro or something be seen as a more traditional gaming platform in general for less tech-demanding games.
EDIT: yes I realize the Switch is basically this but it doesn't have the huge screen form factor of the iPad nor access to a large range of functionality that the iPad achieve. I love the hell out of the Switch partially because it's the closest realization to this dream to date, though!
But what does that mean in practice? Would an iPhone 7 run BOTW with better performance than a Switch?
A comparison I saw of fornite on mobile vs switch showed a significant difference with Switch looking a lot better, but that is just one game.
Lol they used to say this about earlier iPhones too. Being as "powerful as an Xbox 360"
I doubt the iPad Pro could even produce gaming on the level of the 360. That's not what these things are designed for.
I doubt the iPad Pro could even produce gaming on the level of the 360. That's not what these things are designed for.
If you can use a blue tooth Xbox controller with it, you have a premium Switch experience really.
You know I never thought about that, this guy/girl is right! Hell if Apple can pump out graphics of current consoles <barring the half steps Pro/Scorpio> then more power to them
its probably not exactly there yet for all applications but I bet its damn close, thats why when people say they need new consoles i just dont get it, even the pro and x (cpu wise) are not much compared to what can be done these days when devices are getting released yearly. we need new machines in the console space, tech moves so fast these days
Let me play Nintendo games on it and I'll consider it above the Switch.
Seriously, who comes to the Switch looking for raw processing power?
I know. I'm not keeping track of iOS games though, they're bound to be good by now.
Consoles have :-
Standardised control scheme/controller only games.
Developer relations, encouraging premium games.
Online services/ecosystem/friends lists.
They've had years to sweat the important things out and give a great experience.
I love mobile games. I'm active in Eras own mobile games thread. Power has NEVER been the problem with iOS for at least a couple of years. The issue is freemium being the rule and paid high quality games being continuously the exception. For every Grimvalor and Holedown, there is just 1000 utterly shit titles. Plus these devices cost 3x as much! No one is buying an iPad as their primary gaming device.
Premium gaming is a tacked on afterthought to Apple, and that shows in the devices and the support from the company.
Spoiler alert : its not as powerful.
It has the same "capabilities", like the Switch. Very different.
It has the same "capabilities", like the Switch. Very different.
In practice, you'll rarely see console graphics-tier games on iOS hardware because devs aren't going to spend AAA budgets on something destined for an app store where nobody wants to pay more than $1.99 for a game. It doesn't make business sense.
If an iPhone 7 was actively cooled, in theory, yes it could run something like BOTW better. You know what has the same chip as iPhone 7 AND is actively cooled? The Apple TV 4K lol. Apple needs to release a 1st party controller for that yesterday.
S and OGXbone are basically the same outside of 100 extra gflops in the GPU for HDR, but no, not stronger
The problem with mobile gaming has never been the hardware or even the input device, but how the market is set up. If developers had been able to get away with selling $30+ mobile games from the beginning, you would've been seeing games on phones and tablets at least as good as dedicated handheld games.
No amount of silicon is gonna overcome the current norm of free-to-play and sub-$10 games versus $60 console games. Phones and tablets have been more powerful than the Switch for a while (probably, I haven't actually been keeping track) and definitely more powerful than the 3DS for a while, but look at the difference in the games you play on each one. The "full games" you play on mobile are invariably ports of older games that can be sold at low prices. Those games alone, like iPhone ports of Baldur's Gate or Final Fantasy Tactics, prove the problem isn't the hardware, but the market and pricing schemes.
To be more similar to consoles and dedicated handhelds, iOS probably should've had a separate game store like movies, music, and books have separate stores.
No amount of silicon is gonna overcome the current norm of free-to-play and sub-$10 games versus $60 console games. Phones and tablets have been more powerful than the Switch for a while (probably, I haven't actually been keeping track) and definitely more powerful than the 3DS for a while, but look at the difference in the games you play on each one. The "full games" you play on mobile are invariably ports of older games that can be sold at low prices. Those games alone, like iPhone ports of Baldur's Gate or Final Fantasy Tactics, prove the problem isn't the hardware, but the market and pricing schemes.
To be more similar to consoles and dedicated handhelds, iOS probably should've had a separate game store like movies, music, and books have separate stores.
If iPad Pro had a standardized controller that devs actually used, it could be ridiculously successful. Playing something with that quality of screen on a flight? My god.
Touch controls will always be the Achilles hero for iOS gaming. Some games are just fine with them, but it will always prevent the gaming audience at large from taking it seriously.
Touch controls will always be the Achilles hero for iOS gaming. Some games are just fine with them, but it will always prevent the gaming audience at large from taking it seriously.
I'd rather have this ASUS phone $500. Actually I'm getting it.
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You think it could run the best of what the 360 could? I remain very sceptical of that.
No it isn't lol. It's just one of those things companies like to say. "our shits as strong as blah blah blah"
It can probably push somewhere near xbone graphics for about 15 seconds.
It can probably push somewhere near xbone graphics for about 15 seconds.
As soon as I saw this post, I immediately thought "oh god, here come the "touchscreen!!!!!!" posts". Not disappointed. Ty Era.
Mobile will eventually surpass consoles in power. Inevitable when console life cycles are so long and mobile get yearly updates.
Mobile will eventually surpass consoles in power. Inevitable when console life cycles are so long and mobile get yearly updates.
Take it seriously? Considering how much money mobile makes, how many players it has, and how many studios are devoting more and more to mobile, this statement is bizarre.
Yeah, where I live, mobile has long surpassed consoles in market size, and it's not all f2p games. Games in the 1600¥-2800¥ range fill the top sellers list.
The Switch easily can and the SoC in there is three years old. You're crazy if you don't think a top-of-the-line 2018 SoC could do substantially better.
Apple say stuff like this a lot, and I fully admit that I don't know enough about how benchmarking works to say if they're being disingenuous or not... But, regardless, until I can actually play Xbox - or even Switch - quality games on an iPad, I kinda don't care if it's technically equivalent in power? Like, it doesn't matter as anything other than a marketing boast, as is.
(To be clear, I say all this as someone who owns a 10.5 inch iPad Pro.)
(To be clear, I say all this as someone who owns a 10.5 inch iPad Pro.)
Bold statement claiming your new hardware is more powerful than 5 year old tech that costs a third of what you're selling.
No way , Fortnite runs like crap on my 7 compared to the Switch version.
Apple's claim is probably true here but it's worth remembering:
An iPad pro wouldn't maintain that performance unless plugged in
Comparing it to the XB1S is false equivalence as the One S is only as graphically as powerful as the XB1 which is about 4 years old now.
The iPad retails at a price about 3.5x higher
If anything this kind of claim in a keynote presentation shows how far Apple is clutching at straws
An iPad pro wouldn't maintain that performance unless plugged in
Comparing it to the XB1S is false equivalence as the One S is only as graphically as powerful as the XB1 which is about 4 years old now.
The iPad retails at a price about 3.5x higher
If anything this kind of claim in a keynote presentation shows how far Apple is clutching at straws
Microsoft Project xCloud may make that a possibility, though that has nothing to do with the device's power capabilities, just your internet speed. Wireless controller sold separately.
