And you get a built in excuse if you lose the next election after they weren't removed from office.
And you get a built in excuse if you lose the next election after they weren't removed from office.
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There should be a nonstop barrage of commercials of GOP members from 2016 shitting on Trump
stanning lmao nice some of these folks have such a hard on for trump they even forgot they're at an impeachment hearing. stanning is a good way to put it.
They should have just said the tapes proved Nixon was innocent over and over again and Watergate was hearsay.
ACA just got killed while everyone watches this.
edit: not totally dead but the SC sent the case back to the crazy texas judge to rule again.
edit: not totally dead but the SC sent the case back to the crazy texas judge to rule again.
It does matter. After reviewing the evidence, Republicans in the Senate will have to go on record and vote on the fact that they are OK with Trump's actions as President. Their legacies will forever be tied to his traitorous behavior. Regardless of what the naysayers say, that is significant.
The procedure was written up on the assumption that the US wouldn't turn into a two-party shitshow where people put party before country. They assumed that senators would be objective and take their jobs seriously. The result is that, yeah, in this form it's mostly a gigantic stain on a presidency. However, it's the House's duty to impeach regardless, as they don't control what the senate does. Don't think it doesn't matter, though... just see how unhinged Trump has been during the process. He clearly cares.
He is EXTREMELY distracting.
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Plus, we've learned that Clinton should have just refused to testify. He would have never committed an actual crime if he just spammed MySpace with denials.
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What are the chances the Senate votes to kick Trump out of office? Is it like a 1% chance or significantly higher than that?
Trump is gonna say he wasn't impeached because he wasn't removed. He doesn't understand the difference. When he's not removed, he's gonna quadruple down on the "See?! It was a witch hunt!" narrative.
Its a zero percent chance, they have the votes and already said they'd squash it quickly.
The majority leader of the Senate is working with the Trump administration on the format and length of the Senate trial. They are literally deciding how long to spend before acquitting him. 0%.
Well if someone would only bring him Han Solo, he'd not have to be there.
1/10th of 1%
The Senate is going to kill this so fast, you'll blink and it'll be done.
I will be very surprised and very disappointed if this doesn't happen.
They're on extremely strict timers and the floor whips would have asked the members for how much time they needed ahead of time to try to plan the whole thing out.
Non-zero. Barely, but still. A % would be a waste of time.
I truly hope these people's careers are tarnished going forward.
There is maybe a 10% chance that a few Senators flip to get 51 yays, which would be a small moral victory.
There is 0.0000000000000000001% chance of 20+ senators flipping to reach the removal threshold.
They won't, because their idiotic base believes every bullshit lie that comes out of their mouth.
There's a reason why Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it.
These dipshits will go to bat for anyone with an R next to their name.
Significant in that it can be used against them should they try to unseat anyone in any office for any reason. They're setting a precedent and must maintain power at all costs, otherwise this will come to bite them in the ass. It will also look exceptionally poor on them if Trump is convicted of any crimes, or if anything additional comes to light. It effectively sets the stage (hopefully) to use these votes as a weapon against Republicans politically in the future. Also, history books, etc etc.
Why are dems so happy about the impeachment then? Is it just to piss Trump off and attach a black mark to his presidency? Or do some believe he will actually get the boot?
Who is happy? It is their responsibility to impeach and present evidence. They all know he won't get removed but it doesn't mean you just do nothing.