If no witnesses in the senate, then Pelosi needs to let the House finally take their gloves off and consider all the weapons at their disposal.
Inherent contempts need to start flying, and the first guy I target is Bolton. Start off with punitive fines enforced by the GAO.
I kinda wish in this answer that Schiff brought up that even if Hypothetical Obama had a legitimate concern to investigate, he would at least be running it through official State channels and not directing those involved to his personal attorney.
To the GOP's credit at least they've sent two questions to the other side.
I really wish the Dems would challenge the defense council. Put them on their toes. It would be more productive than just listening the House Managers read prepared statements.
They have the votes to call anyone they want with 0 dem support. They just really dont want Boltons testimony.Dunno, but it's not likely that they have the votes for them without a pound of Biden flesh.
I feel like the line for moderate darlings is to only call Republican witnesses. It's either none or both for them.They have the votes to call anyone they want with 0 dem support. They just really dont want Boltons testimony.
I don't bring it up to say that Hypothetical Obama doing that would be okay--it wouldn't be--but more to highlight just how absurd and obviously-personal Trump's motives were in what was actually committed here. They can't possibly claim that the aid witholding was a matter of legit policy when all discussions about it were being funneled through a private, personal attorney.Yeah the problem with that is you're saying it's okay for the President to direct the DoJ / FBI to investigate a political opponent. That's not okay either. It's one of the things Nixon was impeached for. So Schiff couldn't concede it was okay for the President to direct the government to target a political rival. It's a sign of how far we've fallen when that is the suggested alternative.
I'm going to eat lunch. Wake me up when Dem Senators actually direct questions at Trump's lawyers.
They withdrew the Bolton subpoena and there is no way the House reopens impeachment discussions around Ukraine.
If no witnesses in the senate, then Pelosi needs to let the House finally take their gloves off and consider all the weapons at their disposal.
Inherent contempts need to start flying, and the first guy I target is Bolton. Start off with punitive fines enforced by the GAO.
Oh there are other things they can investigate and go to subpoena wars over. Emoluments being a huge one with actual crimes attached.They withdrew the Bolton subpoena and there is no way the House reopens impeachment discussions around Ukraine.
"You want witnesses? We will make this about Biden"
That's exactly what Dems keep saying, just do it.
Joe Biden. Though he's probably the only one.
"You want witnesses? We will make this about Biden"
"You want witnesses? We will make this about Biden"
They should've done this already. But yes, they still need to. Because at this point, it's clear: subpoenas by Democrats are optional.
To the GOP's credit at least they've sent two questions to the other side.
I really wish the Dems would challenge the defense council. Put them on their toes. It would be more productive than just listening the House Managers read prepared statements.
I was just about to say the same thing. Wow. They're totally out of touch with reality.
Oh there are other things they can investigate and go to subpoena wars over. Emoluments being a huge one with actual crimes attached.
Why do you guys torture yourself w/ CSPAN? WaPo has been my go to stream.
It's winter and they're calling from Florida. Guess.Yeah, Burista. From THE Ukraine, where *chuckles* as everyone has said here *chuckles* everything is corrupt! *chuckles*
Where do these people come from???
Why do you guys torture yourself w/ CSPAN? WaPo has been my go to stream.