Is The Orange Box still the best deal or did Halo MCC beat it?
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I don't think we'll ever get something like The Orange Box ever again.
It has Grabbed by the Ghoulies in it. Get that shit outta here.
It has Grabbed by the Ghoulies in it. Get that shit outta here.
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Couldn't agree more. I totally forgot about Rare Replay despite buying it day 1, I respect it but almost everything in that collection was just not good or didn't stand the test of time. Like I said in the OP, you gotta consider both the quantity and the quality, not just one of the two. Otherwise Action 52 should win this.
MCC got also "at least" 3 games of all time you know (H1, H2, H3 and with active multiplayer) + future seasons.
To me MCC is the clear winner judging the incredible amount of content here, second would be rare replay and third Orange box.
OP, repeat yourself over and over again that three of the games were brand new in the orange box
Yeah it's The Orange Box, especially from the choices given.
Three NEW games in a single package, all of them top-tier even today. HL2e2 is as good as Half-Life's ever been, with some ingenious levels/puzzles (that giant bridge!) and intense encounters (pretty much any time a Hunter shows up, and that incredible Strider battle at the end). TF2 got endless content updates on PC and still maintains a gigantic player base, and Portal is still talked about as one of the best of all time. Even came with HL2 and HL2e1 for free to catch people up. Hell, even Peggle Extreme, which used to be bundled with it as a bonus game (it's now free for everyone), is a great little tie-in.
Everything in it also worked on day one. ¬_¬
Three NEW games in a single package, all of them top-tier even today. HL2e2 is as good as Half-Life's ever been, with some ingenious levels/puzzles (that giant bridge!) and intense encounters (pretty much any time a Hunter shows up, and that incredible Strider battle at the end). TF2 got endless content updates on PC and still maintains a gigantic player base, and Portal is still talked about as one of the best of all time. Even came with HL2 and HL2e1 for free to catch people up. Hell, even Peggle Extreme, which used to be bundled with it as a bonus game (it's now free for everyone), is a great little tie-in.
Everything in it also worked on day one. ¬_¬
First post pretty muxh summarizes it.
Master Chief Collection may be great value, but there's no brand new games in it, which the Orange Box had at the time.
And even then Microsoft themselves still has an even bigger bundle in Rare Replay, which has atleast the same amount of quality games in it plus more.
And it has more variety, because MCC has Halo and Halo in it, they are all shooters that play very similarly.
I only bought Orange Box for Portal. I didn't care about anything else in it. If we wanna talk about great collections Sonic Mega Collection Plus is probably king to me. Especially so due to the fact that despite countless Sonic re-releases after it, there's no comparison. It's still the only way to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles on a home console other than the original hardware.
I think the number of full story campaigns, including full coop and competitive MP (including splitscreen), makes MCC the easy choice at this point.
I can understand the variety of Orange Box being a legit point in its advantage, but that also means there's more likely to be content in it that a given player doesn't actually care about. I mostly bought it for Portal, for example, and owned several of the other games in the collection. It's still an utterly excellent collection. Mind you, I think the case could easily be made for something like Rare Replay being an even BETTER bundle than the examples from this premise. Same with Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection.
That said, if your standard is how these games play currently, I think MCC is the easy choice.
I can understand the variety of Orange Box being a legit point in its advantage, but that also means there's more likely to be content in it that a given player doesn't actually care about. I mostly bought it for Portal, for example, and owned several of the other games in the collection. It's still an utterly excellent collection. Mind you, I think the case could easily be made for something like Rare Replay being an even BETTER bundle than the examples from this premise. Same with Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection.
That said, if your standard is how these games play currently, I think MCC is the easy choice.
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I guess it's partly based on your tastes. For example, as someone who only played MGS2 by 2013, the Metal Gear Legacy Collection was EASILY one of the best deals I've ever enjoyed.
This was fantastic.
And while I never bought this on PS3, I'd love a similar one on PS5.
This was fantastic.
And while I never bought this on PS3, I'd love a similar one on PS5.
Just to rub some salt in the wound (kidding, obviously):
currently in europe i can get Story so Far (19€) and KH3 (15€) für less then MoM (40€ on switch), and for only 6€ more than Bloodstained (28) on switch.
There is a great deal, and then there is just stupidly cheap for such a collection. I still dont own a PS4, but i own the story so far since last summer (was not shure it it would stay that cheap)
But honestly: there where so many truly great collections, that im not shure how those 2 stand out. (Big factor: not that big on FPS, boored to hell with Halo, and Portal is a 10/10 milestone game, so ...)
Yeah, it's still the Orange Box, if only for the variety and innovation in that package.
ADDENDUM: I mean, you got Half-Life 2, a really damn good game that nobody's properly upended and taken all the good lessons from even today, compare with Halo where I can easily say other games have taken all it's good ideas and done better with them. Then you have Portal and TF2, two of the most influential games to come out of the late oughties. No amount of samey decorative tissue paper FPS's can compare.
ADDENDUM: I mean, you got Half-Life 2, a really damn good game that nobody's properly upended and taken all the good lessons from even today, compare with Halo where I can easily say other games have taken all it's good ideas and done better with them. Then you have Portal and TF2, two of the most influential games to come out of the late oughties. No amount of samey decorative tissue paper FPS's can compare.
MCC is still in a bum spot now. I can't play through the campaigns without awful stuttering after ten minutes on PC.
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As a 2D sonic detractor...yeah, way better for me then MCC (Still behind portal)I guess it's partly based on your tastes. For example, as someone who only played MGS2 by 2013, the Metal Gear Legacy Collection was EASILY one of the best deals I've ever enjoyed.
This was fantastic.
I got what they where after: pushing a collection to get non fans up and running and push Halo even further to be a huge franchise... i have the feeling it kinda backfired, with how it was handeled in the last years.
Portal is the GOAT and created my favourite genre. So Orange Box.
If it wasn't for Portal then I doubt we'd have had.. Portal 2, but also Talos Principle, Manifold Garden, QUBE, Turing Test, Witness etc etc. Just love this genre so much.
If it wasn't for Portal then I doubt we'd have had.. Portal 2, but also Talos Principle, Manifold Garden, QUBE, Turing Test, Witness etc etc. Just love this genre so much.
On the one hand Orange Box had Half Life 2 + Ep1 along with brand new amazing games in Portal and Team Fortress 2, but it also did have Ep2 that has left us hanging for over a decade.
(Even taking MCC as a fully working product instead of the absolute dumpster fire when it launched, it's still repackaged older games. Orange Box wins easily on pretty much every metric except quantity.)
(Even taking MCC as a fully working product instead of the absolute dumpster fire when it launched, it's still repackaged older games. Orange Box wins easily on pretty much every metric except quantity.)
MAY I BRING THE NINTENDO PUZZLE COLLECTION TO THE TABLE
Sequel to Panel de Pon, Sequel to Yoshi's Cookie, first Japanese localisation of Dr Mario 64
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GBA versions of all of them that you can play by connecting your GBA to the Gamecube and can then play untethered from Gamecube
Sequel to Panel de Pon, Sequel to Yoshi's Cookie, first Japanese localisation of Dr Mario 64
AND
GBA versions of all of them that you can play by connecting your GBA to the Gamecube and can then play untethered from Gamecube
I'll still say the Orange Box because it was what it was right out of the gates. MCC is a great value but it also took years for it to be the value it truly is now, and while I appreciate the time and effort done, it took massive negative feedback to get them to do it. Orange Box still wins.
yeah MCC is fine and all now but released as a total shitshow
context matters, orange box was all new games and all those legendary games worked at release
context matters, orange box was all new games and all those legendary games worked at release
Orange Box wins at the time of it's release because 3 of the games included were brand new, and it didn't need tons of updates to make it a worthy collection.
MCC wins in 2021 if you're going to pick one up now because it has a lot more content in it. Orange Box has also lost some value with one of it's biggest games going f2p (tf2) and it's other big titles often being available for practically free during any Steam sale.
MCC wins in 2021 if you're going to pick one up now because it has a lot more content in it. Orange Box has also lost some value with one of it's biggest games going f2p (tf2) and it's other big titles often being available for practically free during any Steam sale.
The Orange Box is still much better. Just overall there is more genuine creativity and thought in each game of The Orange Box. Who knows what tops it out in overall work hours and budget and all that. But Halo is just bland crap at the end of the day.
Orange Box obviously. 3 brand new titles, all great and one of them one of the most inventive titles ever vs a compilation should always win out. A compilation is a bunch of older games at a discount. Orange box was terrific value for new content.
Not really comparable IMHO. Would be better to compare MMC to other compilations such as MGS, etc.
Orange Box was fairly unique IMO.
Not really comparable IMHO. Would be better to compare MMC to other compilations such as MGS, etc.
Orange Box was fairly unique IMO.
