It has finally happened - the first 4:54 in Super Mario Bros. Any%
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yeah it's a not a question of new routing, it's just a question of perfection when it comes to input. Still extremely impressive.
As someone who only admired the speed running community from afar, I was definitely a little curious about the keyboard use but I suppose it's more of a matter of whether or not the input method is allowing moves that the original game didn't (which this isn't) and whether the community decides that this is an acceptable alternative to original hardware (which it seems they have.)
Getting mere frames away from the TAS time is just nuts. This is a ridiculous accomplishment and almost certainly the ceiling.
Getting mere frames away from the TAS time is just nuts. This is a ridiculous accomplishment and almost certainly the ceiling.
i hope this is a joke or a meme i didn't hear before and that's just me being dumb here...
you realise it's a computer keyboard right? lol
Incredible. So, based on my very limited understanding, one of the few ways to improve the run would be to do that risky backwards momentum jump at the start of 8-4, right? I didn't see him perform that, but it was mentioned in the video breaking down some of the speed run strategies.
I imagine the Donkey Kong controversy is partly to explain. Cause the high score world records have separate tables for emulators and original hardware.
Speed runners often use emulators for various reasons, convenience is a big one as it's easier to set up OBS with them, and easier to setup an auto splitter with them. Splits aren't a thing in high score tables, so there isn't the same draw from both streamers and viewers to get that helpful data on screen during stream. If you're manually having to hit a button to record splits, you wouldn't be able to know while watching a stream for a game like this that deals in *frames* if it's really on world record pace or not.
I didn't. I heard buttons and my brain thought arcade stick. Keyboards for platformers is so blasphemous to me that I refused to even consider it a possibility, but now I'm even more impressed.
there was a trackmania runner that did 260k attempts for one world record on a track. He dedicated 400hours to one track alone and got it.
That's wild. They're very dedicated or completely insane, lol. I don't think I could even look at my favorite games ever again if I played them a 100th of that.
But the nature of a keyboard with separate, click keys means that there's got to be some things that are way easier to do on one compared to a NES controller though? Even if it's theoretically possible I find it hard to imagine someone having such precise control with a mushy D-pad.
Not to discount the run of course, but I'm wondering how much consideration is put into the physical properties of input devices used for runs when making the rules. It seems like when you get down to the point where world record runs only have a few frames between them, even stuff like the distance buttons have to travel to be recognised as pressed, how clicky they are, and length of finger travel could make all the difference.
It's a very entertaining video and absolutely amazing telling of how the world record was done.