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Dahbomb

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COULD "V" BE LADY'S SON??? Read on to find out!!!!

Alright so it's common knowledge at this point that there are three playable characters in DMC5 and they are all pictured in the box art for the game:

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The character in the center is Nero who was featured heavily in the DMC5 trailer, the character on the left is Dante and the character on the right is the brand new character that has not yet been revealed. One of the earlier leaks listed him as "V", many people thought that "V" would in fact be Vergil but on close inspection this new character doesn't really look anything like Vergil.

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The 3rd character is supposed to be able to summon demon bodyguards as a core game play mechanic. He seems to be second character pictured in that image, the top one being Dante with the Sparda sword and the third picture being Nero with his new robotic arm.


Now this is where things get spicy. Earlier on, Hideaki Itsuno-san who is the director of DMC5 and Matt Walker the producer claimed in an interview that there are hints about this third mysterious character in the official DMC5 Nero battle theme "Devil Trigger". Here's the interview where he gives us the challenge:



This is the music video in question:



We initially found some motifs of a woman and her baby in doll forms in the music video but couldn't really make much of it:

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In terms of lyrics, the music is all about a demon trying to get out from a body. Some people have theorized that it could be Vergil trapped in the body of "V" and trying to get out of it while "V" is trying to contain him or something.

But today we had a MAJOR breakthrough courtesy of the guys at Reddit originating from this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCr...nosan_said_that_the_official_music_videopull/


https://imgur.com/gallery/Im1bxDu

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There are 4 image frames in the trailer that has parts of the sentence "I have no name" in there that you need to splice together to form that image there. "I have no name" refers to the 3rd character in that he is called "V" because he has no name, obviously.

But more importantly, "I have no name" is what Lady says to Dante after he asks for her name in Devil May Cry 3. This could mean that Lady is in come way connected to this third mysterious character.

Of course some fans had to come up with some crazy theories about this new character being Lady's son!

https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/8qmm4e/theory_about_v_ladys_son/


Anyway, this is our answer back at Itsuno and Matt Walker... that yes we heard you loud and clear and we are READY for more DMC5 action!

Update#1:
MATT WALKER ANSWERED US BACK!!!!

https://twitter.com/gypsyOtoko/status/1007148573148844032/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://s9e.github.io/iframe/twitter.min.html#1007148573148844032

Matt Walker : "YAAAA BABY- the party is just getting started! ^_* "

Update#2: Interviews about the 3rd character surface, shedding new light on the character and promise of more hints (credit to Protagonist from DMC discord for finding it):

Interviewer: Is the new character male?
Okabe: Maybe.

Interviewer: Is the new character someone we know already?
Okabe: Maybe, haha. There's a hint about the character in the video we made for Nero's theme song.
Matthew: Oh, I didn't expect you to say that.

Interviewer: So are you saying we can guess who the new character is by listening to the song?
Okabe: I don't think so, haha. You can find that there are some clues about the character if you watch the video carefully, though.

Interviewer: So the easter egg you're talking about is not something that makes sense right now.
Okabe: Right. We plan to continue hiding similar easter eggs in our future promotions. These easter eggs won't reveal everything, but we hope they will keep the fans engaged.

Update#3 BRAND NEW THEORY!

The no named demon is a reference to the DMC3 manga!
Considering the DMC3 quote is not correct, perhaps you're barking up the wrong tree a little bit.

Did you have a look at the DMC3 manga, though?

There's a line in that where Vergil says "I have no name to give to you, demon."

In fact much of the plot appears to revolve around demons sealed away by Sparda who need to retrieve their lost names in order to be released.

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Further fuel on to this fire:

Right then. I'm tossing my hat into the ring for a theory. It's all thanks to ColdVergil urging me to read the manga's and making me do so. Thank you also to Kaztinka for posting his Manga pages in our chat to confirm the lore.

In Chapter 2 of the DMC3 Manga, Virgil and Arkham descend into the catacombs beneath the Temen-ni-gru to break the first seals of the tower. As they do so, Arham reveals the history of the tower.



"There is a record of in the demon sword documents of several demons who, as punishment, had their names taken from them. You see the names have been chipped away... This statue is not reality, just a representation."

So Demon's names seem to be of some importance. Good thing the Manga doesn't stop there:



Aside from Sparda hammering a giant spike into the tower so heaven and earth could not be separated again, he had the power to take away Demon's names. Arkham explains that "To take away its name is to render it powerless... A demon's name is its power... and the very fabric, the mould of the demon itself... To demon's, names are truth... and of far more consequence than some corporeal viscera."

A name to a demon is proof of their existence and holds their power. Sparda had the power to take from a demon their power, and as a result stop them from existing.

Now THIS is where it all comes together:



"There is a popular theory among some occult experts that demons use their names when entering into a contract... After all a nameless demon would have no power with which to grant out desires."

Since names are a source of a demons power, they can be used to bargain with. Now how does this tie into "The Mysterious V"? Well it's simple.

I believe Virgil, having been defeated by Dante and at the same time freed from Mundus' control was left without a body. As a named demon as well as a Son of Sparda, he held great power. What if in order to return to his original body he made a contract with a demon, much like the theorized contracts Arkham discussed in the DMC3 Manga.

"Demon's use their names when entering a contract".

Virgil managed to find a demon and by barganing his first initial: The Letter "V" and therein giving that Demon the power to "Grant his desires". Which in this bargain would be his corporeal viscera.

"V" is using the power Virgil gave him and is taking advantage of his newfound power at the expense of a now weakened Virgil. Why is he here? To help Nero and Dante? To return the chaos that reigned before Sparda stopped them? Only time will tell.
 
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Kard8p3

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No way it isn't Vergil.

If I had to take a wild guess the tattoos are maybe reminiscent of his time as nelo angelo
 

Adamska

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This was the only cool thing that happened in DmC's story.
This is not the thread for this (and I only posted the picture as a joke), but I think it's a fitting moment for the character that's been twisted by some people with issues with DmC's tone.

OT, the third character reminds me of Silver. Why is he using sandals with socks?
 

silva1991

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Give me a new character and add Vergil later as a DLC. Totally new character with totally new style should be priority.
 
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But Lady does have a name. She drops it in hatred towards Arkham though and remains nameless until she adopts 'lady' as that's what Dante calls her. If she did have a son, unless history repeated itself and there's a rift between son and mother, I can't see Mary not giving him a name. Also, I think the exact quote form DMC3 isn't 'I have no name'.

Interesting theories about third playable character so far though, really hope it's a total newcomer though with no connections.
 
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This is not the thread for this (and I only posted the picture as a joke), but I think it's a fitting moment for the character that's been twisted by some people with issues with DmC's tone.

OT, the third character reminds me of Silver. Why is he using sandals?
Some people have guessed that his whole get up is similar to a new age sorcerer/necromancer of sorts. Sandals, long coat, cane/rapier type weapon, tattoos. This is in line with this ability to apparently summon demons so I guess that matches with that look. This is all just guesses at this though.
 

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Some people have guessed that his whole get up is similar to a new age sorcerer/necromancer of sorts. Sandals, long coat, cane/rapier type weapon, tattoos. This is in line with this ability to apparently summon demons so I guess that matches with that look. This is all just guesses at this though.
It's a very educated guess, to be sure. This sorta sorcerer power is also why I thought of Silver as an apt comparison.
 

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Thinking that V is Vergil is so June 10

Get with the times people
It's either Lady's son or Devil Bringer's human form.
 

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A guy named The Mysterious V actually being Vergil would be like Kishi revealing that Tobi really was Obito. Don't do it.
 

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Guys there is an actual theory in the OP with actual hints from the song.

You know if anyone wanted to actually read it lol

TL;DR V is Lady's son.

From the music video: (which Itsuno said will have teases for V)
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"I have no name"

Devil May Cry 3, mission 8:

Dante: "So, what's your name?"
Lady: "I don't have a name!"
 

matrix-cat

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Yo, what? I did not see that coming. I guess we'll know immediately if he turns out to have heterochromia when we finally see his face.

Assuming Dante's the father, that could be a pretty cool rivalry between Nero and V, each the son of a different son of Sparda.
 
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I think they hid the face of the characters for a lot of reasons. Don't want to give away old Dante's face or his front design on his jacket, Nero's design and of course the new guy who is the biggest mystery.
 

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Well if V is Lady's son then how can he summon shit? I know her dad obviously tried to turn himself into a demon or something (and knew some magic or some shit), but he didn't have demon blood.

And I don't see Lady having a son with a demon, even if it is Dante (half demon obviously).
 

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I think they hid the face of the characters for a lot of reasons. Don't want to give away old Dante's face or his front design on his jacket, Nero's design and of course the new guy who is the biggest mystery.

Dante's face isn't old.

He looks just like his actor who's in his late 30s. It's just the gray hair that makes him look like that.
 
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Well if V is Lady's son then how can he summon shit? I know her dad obviously tried to turn himself into a demon or something (and knew some magic or some shit), but he didn't have demon blood.
Because Arkham could sort of summon demons too and the grandson is trying to follow in his footsteps.

Or something. This whole thing seems quite bizarre obviously.

Vergil should be the priority.

The fact that they continuously ignore him is deeply disappointing as a fan of this series.
They don't ignore him, they know exactly what they are doing with him. They know fans would pay extra for him so they always nickel and dime him.
 

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When I first read that there was going to be a "mysterious unknown character called "V" that NO ONE can figure out who it is!! :O" I was instantly reminded of this lol
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(Super Paper Mario fans y'all know what I'm saying)

But now yeah, I think there's more to it. I don't think that's Vergil. He very clearly already is there when he takes Nero's arm, and looks like he normally does

Vergil should be the priority.

The fact that they continuously ignore him is deeply disappointing as a fan of this series.
If anything they don't ignore him, and go out of their way to get him in. He literally had no reason to be in DMC4SE yet they made him the only character who play through the entire campaign and fleshed out his story even more. Vergil should technically be dead and gone right now.
 

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I would love if the internet as a whole collectively decided that deciphering Kojima's plots from trailers was just impossible and instead redirected their efforts to Devil May Cry.

LET'S GO I'M PULLING FOR DANTE'S SECRET SON THAT HE'LL LIKE LESS THAN HE LIKES NERO