J.K. Rowling and Her Legacy of Hate: The UK Gender Critical Movement
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No but the gist is
"If anyone tells you JK has nothing to do with the game they're lying, she personally approves a huge amount of everything and insists on "her people" having approval of just about everything else. Also she makes money from every copy. You know who doesn't? The developers.".
"If anyone tells you JK has nothing to do with the game they're lying, she personally approves a huge amount of everything and insists on "her people" having approval of just about everything else. Also she makes money from every copy. You know who doesn't? The developers.".
The BBC is fucking obsessed with trans people.
View: https://twitter.com/GeekBoyMusic/status/1583364826235301888
Good response from Elton. He'd probably get dogpiled like Norton but I don't think he's very online.
View: https://twitter.com/GeekBoyMusic/status/1583364826235301888
Good response from Elton. He'd probably get dogpiled like Norton but I don't think he's very online.
Aren't the transes the ones with all the power, all in charge policing our language???
... Good god damn lord the reality news media lives in is absurd, meanwhile they're constantly pushing anti-trans garbage on the daily. Where the hell is our power? Like Graham Norton literally *just* got harassed off Twitter by the GC mob for making an incredibly tame statement that his voice means little and people should try talking to trans folks about trans issues.
"I thought I was being more subtle" lmao of course your clown ass did.
... Good god damn lord the reality news media lives in is absurd, meanwhile they're constantly pushing anti-trans garbage on the daily. Where the hell is our power? Like Graham Norton literally *just* got harassed off Twitter by the GC mob for making an incredibly tame statement that his voice means little and people should try talking to trans folks about trans issues.
"I thought I was being more subtle" lmao of course your clown ass did.
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Such a joke to get so triggered by the word 'binary' that you hard pivot into whining about trans people and cancel culture.
Thanks Scrappy 💛
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The new NHS England GIDS service spec seems to buck the guidance set by major health organisations and international standards.
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meanwhile...
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View: https://twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1583430714606817281?s=20&t=jyzbbxMjZcw5If76Rc0eTg
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(part of a long thread)
View: https://twitter.com/Claire54783043/status/1583331967990628352?s=20
meanwhile...
View: https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1583235903614394370
I know it's easy to get sucked into conspiracies on this but I can't help but think having the NHS alienate a lot of people who are in the demographics that would normally 100% support it is really, really helpful for the Tory plan to abolish it.
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People said the same thing about the BBC when they turned against us and leaned into making the climate for us in this country worse.
Except in this case many trans people haven't had free healthcare in this country for our own healthcare for awhile. The waiting list between initial referral and first appointment is around 5 years in places, and that's people who signed up 5 years ago. People signing up today can expect wait times of double to triple that (and that's me sanitising the actual data to make it sound less absurd).
Trans women (and this will run true for other identities, I'm just speaking to examples I know from others or directly) have to prove ourselves to doctors to be allowed access to the healthcare we need. Being told they're concerned you're not serious enough about everything because you didn't wear a dress, or aren't feminine enough in your approach. The most common advice I've heard around going to an NHS appointment for hormones is to tick all the stereotypes of femininity when you do, to avoid any chance you have of falling foul of a transphobic (or just generally ignorant) doctor.
Being trans is needing to know the ins and outs of our healthcare because often our doctor won't. It's going to appointments completely unrelated to gender affirming care with anxieties of life threatening illnesses and instead being asked which public toilet you use, and being told they are going to call a GIC to find out if you followed the correct path because they feel it was too easy for you to have become a woman.
So when it comes to the NHS and alienating trans people it's not a journey that's at risk of being taken, it's a well trodden path.
Half the fight is hoping that future generations aren't facing medical transition as an economic choice as well as a personal one, where only the most well off of us — a demographic where 1/3 of employers admit to it being less likely that they would hire us, and only 8% of that third believe we should have the same rights as others do in the workplace — can afford to do so. Which is how it currently stands.
It's alright. It might be depressing but it's not surprising. I'd rather have my eyes open to the situation so I can best prepare as it progresses.
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I kinda wish we just had a like button because now I'm taking up a post to say "Thank you, that was incredibly useful".
And frankly I've been on the internet long enough that sounds sarcastic.
And frankly I've been on the internet long enough that sounds sarcastic.
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Don't worry, it doesn't come off as sarcastic. Posts are free and it means a lot that you found it useful, so I appreciate it.
God, it's absolutely criminal that Informed Consent isn't widespread. It was such an easy process for me that makes me infuriated how bad it is elsewhere, there's absolutely zero reason for it to be such a hellscape to navigate when there's so much clear evidence that Informed Consent has lead to so many happier trans lives.
And then transphobes have the gall to use suicide rates against us.
It's so weird how fast it can change. A few years ago I felt like I could actually come out.
Now thanks to Joanne and her influence I will stay firmly in the closet about my gender.
And I'm starting to get nervous that I'm out about my sexuality.
Now thanks to Joanne and her influence I will stay firmly in the closet about my gender.
And I'm starting to get nervous that I'm out about my sexuality.
Yeah sadly there is systemic discrimination from NHS. There is also no training as far as I know. Which there should be. Trans folks deserve to have more informed healthcare professionals. There seem to be similar issues in Canada.
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I've worked with the NHS for the last three years. Maybe I can push for our organisation to have mandatory training on it, because right now we only have diversity and inclusion training which is not enough. I'm sure there are still admin issues in the systems too, like about not having deadnames, I still don't think there is a dedicated pronoun section on a patient's file, although now working in IAPT, there does seem to be more gender options on the files. It's still systemically so backwards and infuriating on a large scale.
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Well said. But going through the whole painful ordeal is also about more than just "getting a body we would like" for some of us, just saying.
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Yeh, it's an over simplification in service of making the broader point that such decisions aren't done on a whim and the idea that the process is an attractive prospect for cis people is laughable. I don't think she meant to try and encapsulate the experience of all trans people in half a tweet. I just like the dry mocking form of highlighting the absurdity of GC arguments, intercut with some trans humour.
When I came out in 2011 it took 2 years for the entire pathway via the NHS, I came out to my gp in the October and had a first appointment that January, 3rd appointment was in July the same year (for hormones + T blocker). It's like every year that passes another 18 months is added on to the wait time.
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Yup, it's super depressing. I'm glad you managed to get ahead of where it is now though!
You know, I think that's something that a good deal of people "on the outside" (so to speak) don't quite comprehend, or choose not to comprehend. Being trans is a beautiful thing, but in addition to the known "macro" threats to the community, society winds up causing a lot of, for lack of a better term, mundane and avoidable issues that can wear on a person's soul.
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Every now and again I'll sometimes take a look at her wall just to see what horrible stuff she's coming out with now, and of course only ten hours ago she wants again likes to try remind everybody that trans women are sexual predators. She is horrid.
View: https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1584648786546417664?t=4nIyPmE-ZtItp5LIVP4Viw&s=19
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Ah, yes, Mexico. That known bastion of safety for trans women.
She's also become fond of referring to us as 'the right side of history' in that sardonic tone, which is chilling when you take a moment to understand what she's really saying is her 'correct' version of the future is one where trans people don't exist (either visibly or at all).
She's also become fond of referring to us as 'the right side of history' in that sardonic tone, which is chilling when you take a moment to understand what she's really saying is her 'correct' version of the future is one where trans people don't exist (either visibly or at all).
Didn't know where else to post this but what do you do when you think someone or a group are claiming to support trans rights but you suspect are being insincere or are only saying to be performative or justify liking or wanting to buy something? Do you say nothing, risk calling/pointing it out and risk looking like a fool?
This is something I've had issues with for the past few years but the past few weeks online and in real life has made me wonder more.
This is something I've had issues with for the past few years but the past few weeks online and in real life has made me wonder more.
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Latin America is already hostile enough toward the LGTBQ+ community. Joanne's tweets will make the situation even worse.
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Nothing like a bored white billionaire deciding to stir up anti-trans hatred half the world away from her.
View: https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1584921486145605632
good for the article for pointing out the inconsistencies with what he said, tho
so the guy who didn't know what character he was playing in the movies is defending her transphobia.
Really had it with media types goading celebrities to comment on trans people.
As with the whole Graham Norton thing, the interviewers are not hiding the fact they're doing it maliciously. If not for the click bait culture war headlines, then actively lining up targets for the CG cult to either love bomb or chase off.
As with the whole Graham Norton thing, the interviewers are not hiding the fact they're doing it maliciously. If not for the click bait culture war headlines, then actively lining up targets for the CG cult to either love bomb or chase off.
I can't think of any real examples. Also, the smug "right side of history" comment makes Rowling's mask slip off. She's supposed to look "merely concerned," after all.
Also, this is small potatoes next to literally all of the other human suffering being discussed in this thread, but her behavior is probably starting to have a negative effect on her (former) professional colleagues. Imagine being an actor 11 or more years removed from the end of the Harry Potter film franchise and having to deal with media types trying to bait you into either jumping on a grenade for Rowling or pushing back against her and suffering the wrath of a bunch of transphobes online. Fiennes specifically was wrong for saying what he said, but in a general sense, a lot of actors and celebrities are being put on the spot to weigh in on something that isn't really in a lot of their purviews. And even genuinely well-meaning people who answer may wind up spreading misinformation by mistake, which doesn't help anyone. Graham Norton seemingly had the common sense to recommend deferring to trans women on trans women's issues.
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Their tactic is to drag in anyone that they can to put them on the spot, then force an answer that no matter which they pick, is going to end up in outrage and harassment, and hurt trans people. Graham Norton gave the right answer, to not take part, which made GC's MAD for not taking their bait and harassed him and called him a pedophile anyways. They feed on fear, and need to make sure people are scared to defend us, or are grossly misinformed by not allowing anyone else to speak good about trans people. It's a full-on fascist cult.
This seems to be the normal reaction for his generation. All they see are their peers/contemporaries getting "bullied" online.
If you'd like my two cents (and please don't let this be the only two cents you take from someone in this thread): sometimes, the only option is to wait it out and see how they react to an issue. Unfortunately, life provides many opportunities to suss out bad-faith actors. Many people will drop all pretenses pretty quickly when it's convenient for them. When it comes to games and dealing with transphobic elements in or around them specifically, I can imagine "Think of the devs" will pop up whether it's sincere or not. I'm not you, but I would maybe say to these hypothetical people that continuing to engage with X problematic material can be done quietly and doesn't require public declarative statements to be made, especially not in threads specifically talking about the problematic nature of the material in question.
Yeah, that figures.
He's the definition of a white cis-male using their privilege to not care about social issues.
Tom Felton Weighs In On J.K. Rowling And Sets The Record Straight On Her Involvement In The Movies
The Draco Malfoy star was asked about the Harry Potter author.
www.cinemablend.com
Yeah the usual "It's an opinion" and "don't bring politics into my lovely existence"
Pro-human rights and pro-love so long as they look exactly like me.
Pro-human rights and pro-love so long as they look exactly like me.
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New laws to criminalise incitement to hatred against transgender people
Ministers told list of ‘protected characteristics’ are being expanded based on best practice internationally
Just some good news, for Ireland not the UK. But I wanted to share something nice.
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Good start and nice to see actual forward movement. The article makes clear there's a lot of scope for transphobia as we often see it, but progress is rarely fast and some codification of it is a positive.New laws to criminalise incitement to hatred against transgender people
Ministers told list of ‘protected characteristics’ are being expanded based on best practice internationallywww.irishtimes.com
Just some good news, for Ireland not the UK. But I wanted to share something nice.
"Anti-cistamines" is the funniest thing I have encountered in quite a while. The whole list is comedy gold, but that was the cherry on top for me.
Thanks for another excellent write up, Kyuuji . It's always a good learning experience for me (even if it's morbidly depressing).
Thanks for another excellent write up, Kyuuji . It's always a good learning experience for me (even if it's morbidly depressing).
Seriously though, I hope you write a book.