Hopefully what he witnessed won't affect him so much he ends up committing suicide by stabbing himself 20 times with a knife.
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Jamal Khashoggi's killing took seven minutes, Turkish source tells MEE
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This would be a major test for the Trump presidency's reactionary ethics if he hadn't already failed dozens, if not hundreds of them in the preceding 18 months.
Here's what will happen.
A fake investigation will be concluded with some SA officials set up as the 'rogue killers'. These scapegoats will have an SA show trial and go to prison (quietly released weeks later, and kept in the lap of luxury while there).
Turkey will accept this. They will not release the tape. If it is somehow inadvertently released, they will call it fake. They will do this because KSA will give them many hundreds of millions of dollars in oil and cheap loans to do so.
The US administration will gleefully accept this narrative and all goes back to as it was before. The weapons sale goes through. The gas price doesn't rocket.
The rest of the West, bar some grumbling in some quarters, and a few harsh questions at the UN, will hold their noses and accept it as the price of doing business, and business is good.
The world limps on. The attention of the West swings onto the US mid-terms.
Jamal Kashoggi's partner lives with the awful knowledge that her man was horrifically tortured to death, and that the world took a bribe to look the other way.
A fake investigation will be concluded with some SA officials set up as the 'rogue killers'. These scapegoats will have an SA show trial and go to prison (quietly released weeks later, and kept in the lap of luxury while there).
Turkey will accept this. They will not release the tape. If it is somehow inadvertently released, they will call it fake. They will do this because KSA will give them many hundreds of millions of dollars in oil and cheap loans to do so.
The US administration will gleefully accept this narrative and all goes back to as it was before. The weapons sale goes through. The gas price doesn't rocket.
The rest of the West, bar some grumbling in some quarters, and a few harsh questions at the UN, will hold their noses and accept it as the price of doing business, and business is good.
The world limps on. The attention of the West swings onto the US mid-terms.
Jamal Kashoggi's partner lives with the awful knowledge that her man was horrifically tortured to death, and that the world took a bribe to look the other way.
So I just heard on the news here, that Saudi media is reporting that the consul was fired, and is being investigated, though for what is unspecified.
I'm not sure the media would accept this and let it go. Even Fox News commentators weren't buying the 'rogue killer' story.
I'm starting to think it's SA that rules the world. It really feels like US and a good number of 1st world European countries are its servants if not slaves.
This is another vulnerable spot in Jabba's corpulent underbelly; reporters need to be HAMMERING that weakness to his face much more forcefully.
It's funny right? From sunup to sundown, its lyin' lyin' lyin' to ones' self.
But then you realize he's exacerbating it with his own ever-more desperate delusions.
They're all transactional snakes. Everyone goes under the bus for a price. And every one of them will line up next to them after seeing the last snake go under the wheels.
This is why they attack the rule of law and journalism: so they can still be percieved reliable and safe enough to still lead after this.
It's funny right? From sunup to sundown, its lyin' lyin' lyin' to ones' self.
But then you realize he's exacerbating it with his own ever-more desperate delusions.
They're all transactional snakes. Everyone goes under the bus for a price. And every one of them will line up next to them after seeing the last snake go under the wheels.
This is why they attack the rule of law and journalism: so they can still be percieved reliable and safe enough to still lead after this.
Which is why Trump will say/do/tweet something else stupid around that time and the news cycle will move on to that.
How can the President of the United States not know what rights and protections are afforded to legal permanent residents?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_permanent_residents_(United_States)
A lawful permanent resident has damn near many of the same protections as a citizen (as they are on the path to full citizenship themselves).
Let's not kid ourselves. It was the Saudis that broke up with us, not the other way around. We are still supplying them with weapons.
Here is the final column from Mr. Khashoggi, written just before he was murdered.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/jamal-khashoggi-what-the-arab-world-needs-most-is-free-expression/2018/10/17/adfc8c44-d21d-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/jamal-khashoggi-what-the-arab-world-needs-most-is-free-expression/2018/10/17/adfc8c44-d21d-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html
Jesus Christ. A bunch of sadistic neo-barbarians.
All I know is if the WWE doesn't pull out of their planned blood money Saudia Arabia event, I will NEVER fuck with that company again.
He probably doesn't understand it. But at the end of the day all this is code for:
"C'mon guys it's not like he was a white person. Why are you making such a big deal about this?"
It's like a guy walking up to you and punching you in the nuts every single day
You know it's coming, but you would imagine that even when a friend is accused of coordinating a murder, he will stop punching you in the nuts for one day
But nope
Let's get this straight - even if the victim was white, even if he was a citizen, Trump would play this down. The Saudis helped make him rich and he isn't wrong about the blood money the US gets from them.
The fact that the Saudis literally have an elite team that specialise in vivisection is some mind melting shit.
Did we slip into the 40k universe when I wasn't looking?
What is this world?
Did we slip into the 40k universe when I wasn't looking?
What is this world?
Way too much money they'd be giving up, zero chance Vince pulls out
When did WWE have a moral conscience? Stephanie McMahon publicly admitted that charity was the modern marketing strategy they'll be using
Considering Islam teaches that if you kill a man means you also kill all humans, of course not.
The cruelty you see in movies or read in books, sometimes is not far fetched how human can be crual to each other. Even games depict that.
Still asking myself how come we call us humans, ffs I can't even kill a mosquitoes bugging all night, but for xyz a human can off me in a blink of an eye.
Here is the final column from Mr. Khashoggi, written just before he was murdered.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/jamal-khashoggi-what-the-arab-world-needs-most-is-free-expression/2018/10/17/adfc8c44-d21d-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html
this is new thread worthy to me, came out just a few hours ago.
Khashoggi said:
so, wonder why they thought they should fuckin torture and kill this guy
Why was it done in this manner though if this is true?
They knew they'd be caught, so is sending a message to any other free speech advocates the goal?
They knew they'd be caught, so is sending a message to any other free speech advocates the goal?
someone oughta be quoting this article to Trump tomorrow and asking him directly if he agrees or disagrees.
They thought they could get away with it? Hubris is pretty powerful when things normally go your way and everyone looks the other direction.
Did the killers know that they'd get captured on CCTV etc and did they not give a shit or did they just do a shit job at appearing incognito?
I know that in the era of Trump etc certain countries are pushing boundaries but c'mon, what did they think would happen when Jamal walked into the building and didn't come back out? Even if Trump didn't give a shit, the press and everyone else (almost everyone) certainly fucking would.
I know that in the era of Trump etc certain countries are pushing boundaries but c'mon, what did they think would happen when Jamal walked into the building and didn't come back out? Even if Trump didn't give a shit, the press and everyone else (almost everyone) certainly fucking would.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Oh wait you're serious
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Some of you would literally believe in saiyans before acknowledging Western imperialism. Stop playing the victim. Open your mind for 5 minutes and read this.
True. After i got some sleep i woke up with this horrific crime in mind.
These are the things you dont want to read and probably wouldnt without internet but its very important for the people to know whats going on in this world. I dont know how the consequences will be (difficult to estimate), as goverments surely have to make a statement for their people how involved they are business wise with this regime and how they will plan to do in the future. This maybe is, beside its cruelty and unsrucupulously acting, a big diplomatical disaster and there have been less reasons to start a crisis/war.
My solidarity goes to Jamal Khashoggi's family and all journalists in the world who try to enlighten us, often in very dangerous circumstances. Keep up the good fight, now more than ever with this fake news epidemic all over the world.
I mean pretty much.
Is anyone going to stand up to SA?
What if petrol/gas at the pump was marked where it came from (obviously that would be impossible considering barrels would be mixed enroute to the customer) - then consumers would have a choice in not buying products from SA. That's ultimately the only way regular people can send a message.
If only our government would lead us towards energy independence so that sure we might have to swallow this pill today we could avoid it in the future. But no, let's scrap forcing auto makers to improve.
Looks like Steve Mnuchin is pulling out of the Investor Conference in Saudi Arabia next week(along with Liam Fox from the UK)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45904904
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45904904
So he will not take a vacation to SA next week....ok. But what about an actual response?
Or they wanted this to be a demo to the rest of the world of their power over the us.
Haha - perfect response. Didn't old Kushy potentially leak some names to the SA government that were "dissenters"?
I meant this will not matter to the Trump administration or to the GOP and that all arms deals in place will not be jeapordized. In addition, a lot of people in this country (read Republicans) will not care or call fake news.
