Almost, yes. It's still a lower market share than what it had at its peak. In 2013, it had a 15% market share, which went down to 10% in 2016 and to 7.3% in 2019.
It is probably out of stock lolMy Hero Academia #1 is out of the Bookscan Adult Graphic Novel top 20 for the first time since May 2017!
My Hero Academia #27, Chainsaw Man #4, Jujutsu Kaisen #9 and Demon Slayer #21 all released on the same day, so the comparison between them is easy.
Incredible month for Demon Slayer thanks to the US release of the movie on April 23rd.
Yep, great growth for Chainsaw ManMHA still the biggest, but interesting that CSM is already bigger than JJK and DS
03./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #20 - 13,448
05./ Chainsaw Man #3 - 12,163
06./ Jujutsu Kaisen #8 - 11,277
Yeah, the anime did not have any effect on salesI just took a quick glance thru this thread.
I have a couple of questions:
1.- I don't see that the Shaman King anime had any impact on its sales? (I didn't see any volume chart)? But the anime won't be canceled, right?
Dai is selling decently. The new perfect edition is doing respectable numbers (better than the Shaman King Perfect Edition, like, 4 times more, but Dai was always more popular).2.- Do you think there is something preventing old stories (remakes) from making big sellers? For example Dai no Daiboken it's an excellent story (So is Shaman King, also currently shown) and they don't seem to have anywhere near the sales of other hot properties (Do you guys think a manga has to be in serilization to get a huge boost?, eg. Tokyo Revengers, Jujutsu Kaisen.)
I'm not sure, but I think there are a lot of benefits to having a weekly anime - helping merch sales notably.3.- (This is more an observation rather than a question) Clearly, as pointed by IIRC Rouk' there is new demography of manga readers (Both in Japan and outside), and it's a huge one that has probably never read anything besides titles from 5 years to now (e.g. My hero academia, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu Kaisen, etc), if I were Shueisha I would totally make a One Piece remake, imagine One Piece getting some of that new demography, if One Piece just got 100k of those new readers with a seasonal anime, that's 10million volumes sold -assuming those 100k new readers eventually buy the 100+ volumes-, surely it seems like it would be a fruitful adaptation (or maybe other title getting a remake, I'd prefer if Pierrot, for example just stopped Boruto and remade Naruto for new generations, but without filler lol)
3.- (This is more an observation rather than a question) Clearly, as pointed by IIRC Rouk' there is new demography of manga readers (Both in Japan and outside), and it's a huge one that has probably never read anything besides titles from 5 years to now (e.g. My hero academia, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu Kaisen, etc), if I were Shueisha I would totally make a One Piece remake, imagine One Piece getting some of that new demography, if One Piece just got 100k of those new readers with a seasonal anime, that's 10million volumes sold -assuming those 100k new readers eventually buy the 100+ volumes-, surely it seems like it would be a fruitful adaptation (or maybe other title getting a remake, I'd prefer if Pierrot, for example just stopped Boruto and remade Naruto for new generations, but without filler lol)
NPD BookScan Top 20 Adult Graphic Novels (May 2nd 2021 - May 29th, 2021)
RANK./ TITLE - MONTHLY SALES - YTD (MONTHLY GROWTH)
01./ Attack on Titan #33 - 23,550
02./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #8 - 18,780 (+39%)
03./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #9 - 17,684 (+52%)
04./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #10 - 14,497 (+32%)
05./ My Hero Academia #1 - 14,454
06./ Attack on Titan #1 - 14,260 / 68,663 (-19%)
07./ Spy x Family #1 - 14,111 (-6%)
08./ My Hero Academia #27 - 13,279 / 49,944 (-64%)
09./ Tokyo Ghoul #1 - 12,801 (+8%)
10./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #11 - 12,787
11./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #3 - 12,386 (-14%)
12./ Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun #1 - 12,035
13./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #1 - 11,568 / 77,502 (-51%)
14./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #7 - 11,500
15./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #12 - 11,074
16./ Komi Can't Communicate #1 - 10,918
17./ Hunter x Hunter #1 - 10,763
18./ My Hero Academia #2 - 10,667 / 71,022 (-37%)
19./ Jujutsu Kaisen #3 - 10,291
20./ My Hero Academia #26 - 10,040 / 77,409 (-13%)
The BookScan monthly top 20 that I post here are Adult Graphic Novel rankings. So far in 2021, manga have taken the top 20 spots in 4 months out of 5 (January had one non-manga).Rouk, could you explain these numbers please?
I saw a youtube video that said that manga had taken the 20 top spot of graphic novels in the USA, so they took it another month or is this the month they were talking about?
Also, for example this number:
06./ Attack on Titan #1 - 14,260 / 68,663 (-19%)
14,260 means what it sold this month, and in total AoT #1 has sold 68,663 volumes? Or it's this year, right?
What about all the other titles that only have one number listed? We don't have information on their accumulated sales, I guess?
Funny to see some "older" titles like Tokyo Ghoul or Hunter x Hunter, just curious to see them still sell so well.
So 14,260 is its sales for May 2021 and 68,663 is the 2021 total (YTD = Year-to-Date).
NPD BookScan is a thing since 2017 because it's the year NPD bought BookScan. BookScan was previously owned by Nielsen and existed since 2001. The earliest yearly report that I found is from 2003. I'm not sure how much monthly data is availble, but I checked every month since 2008 and I couldn't seem to find another instance of Hunter x Hunter being present. I doubt it had any chance of charting before the 2011 anime anyway, so I didn't try to find earlier data.Nice to see HxH chart. On one site it said it was its first time making the top 20. Did they mean since NPD BookScan has been a thing (saw that that happened in 2017)? Or it's counting everything since '05?
damn, One Piece has declined that much or are the others just crazy popular?Oricon Ranking: Week 22, 2021 (May 31 - Jun 6)
RANK./ TITLE - SALES (YEARLY ESTIMATES)
01./ Jujutsu Kaisen - 1,510,541 (25,612,445)
02./ One Piece - 1,079,446 (~3,680,000)
03./ Tokyo Revengers - 680,289 (6,385,452)
04./ Spy x Family - 548,084 (~3,010,000)
05./ Kaiju No. 8 - 379,516 (~1,950,000
06./ Dr. Stone - 148,263 (~2,100,000)
07./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - 107,368 (26,574,913)
08./ The Apothecary Diaries - 98,343 (~1,335,000)
09./ My Hero Academia - 86,541 (3,211,891)
10./ Aoashi - 85,676
Not sure if you are talking about this week's data only or the year-to-date total. But the answer is both.damn, One Piece has declined that much or are the others just crazy popular?
There's not much One Piece can do against new up-and-coming manga. It's been slowly declining for years now. It was never going to stay at the top forever. The fact that it stills sells this much after all this time is a testament to its huge popularity.
damn, One Piece has declined that much or are the others just crazy popular?
That's why I am saying Shueisha should be remaking One Piece right now when the publication is still ongoing. Other remakes that are made once the series had finished don't create the hype (As I said the current Dragon Quest and Shaman King remakes, both very beloved properties but they were old mangas that had been long finished publication). They should invest in at least two cour late-night anime with a more mature audience in mind, either using the Wano designs/aesthetic or making a slight redesign for the new generation of watchers (something like the cup noodle commercials ONE PIECE had a couple of years ago).
That, IMO, is the only way for the series to get new readers and sell some old backlog. Shueisha still prints One Piece volume's with 3 million first printing, so they still believe they will sell at least that much in the long run, so there's that. Heck, even if Shueisha doesn't want to make an anime committee for a new One Piece reboot, If I were Oda I would invest some of my own money towards a new production unless Oda is somehow forbidden from doing it (I imagine maybe Toei has exclusive rights to make the One Piece anime, who knows).
Never really thought about how there's a whole new generation of manga readers out there that One Piece can't reach as easily. With 100 volumes and counting, and the anime being massive and slow as molasses, that's a high barrier to entry that newer series aren't bogged down with.
It'd be funny if they could find some way to get back issue sales to shoot up again, that's a whole lotta volumes... which is probably why it won't happen. Sure gonna be hard to touch its overall cumulative sales total, though.
Oricon Ranking: Week 22, 2021 (May 31 - Jun 6)
RANK./ TITLE - SALES (YEARLY ESTIMATES)
01./ Jujutsu Kaisen - 1,510,541 (25,612,445)
02./ One Piece - 1,079,446 (~3,680,000)
03./ Tokyo Revengers - 680,289 (6,385,452)
04./ Spy x Family - 548,084 (~3,010,000)
05./ Kaiju No. 8 - 379,516 (~1,950,000
06./ Dr. Stone - 148,263 (~2,100,000)
07./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - 107,368 (26,574,913)
08./ The Apothecary Diaries - 98,343 (~1,335,000)
09./ My Hero Academia - 86,541 (3,211,891)
10./ Aoashi - 85,676
I'm 99% sure the Black Jack 176m number on wiki is wrong. The publisher never officially revealed such a number (they announced 45m) and every original Japanese source that used it have since removed it (western media that used them haven't been updated)The highest ratio currently is still kimetsu no yaiba
The 16 50m is great but kimetsu is like 23 volumes to 150 million volumes or black jack
The movie should be able to reach a new readership, but that's it.(but it won't since sales have slow down, so JJK reached all its potential buyers.. Unless something crazy happens).
Crap, this is the first time since the anime started IIRC that Tokyo Revengers sold worst than last week, right? (Last week it sold 697K this one 680K hopefully this is just that volumes are out of stock and not that demand has been met.
It's been pretty clear for a while that Kimetsu no Yaiba basically created a huge amount of new fans of manga in Japan, so there is definitely a new fan base of people eager to read hot shonen properties, I think a huge part of Jujutsu Kaisen's readership is people that finished Kimetsu and now they go to the next trend. (Jujutsu Kaisen is the highest manga ever I think with the ratio of 16 volumes and 50 million published, isn't it?)
That's why I am saying Shueisha should be remaking One Piece right now when the publication is still ongoing. Other remakes that are made once the series had finished don't create the hype (As I said the current Dragon Quest and Shaman King remakes, both very beloved properties but they were old mangas that had been long finished publication). They should invest in at least two cour late-night anime with a more mature audience in mind, either using the Wano designs/aesthetic or making a slight redesign for the new generation of watchers (something like the cup noodle commercials ONE PIECE had a couple of years ago).
That, IMO, is the only way for the series to get new readers and sell some old backlog. Shueisha still prints One Piece volume's with 3 million first printing, so they still believe they will sell at least that much in the long run, so there's that. Heck, even if Shueisha doesn't want to make an anime committee for a new One Piece reboot, If I were Oda I would invest some of my own money towards a new production unless Oda is somehow forbidden from doing it (I imagine maybe Toei has exclusive rights to make the One Piece anime, who knows).
Well, there is only one title that sold more than One Piece, Jujutsu Kaisen, and, unless I am mistaken this list includes all the Jujutsu Kaisen backlog volumes, so it might be the case that ALL the JJK volumes have managed to sell more than One Piece this week, I think that's the case. But I am certain that if OP's newest volume somehow managed to sell more than JJK it must have barely beat it.
But yeah, One Piece has been in a decline ever since like volume 70ish iirc, its highest 1st printing was like 4.15mill iirc, and now they "just" print 3mill. It sells 1 million-ish 1st week and manages to sell around 2 million until it doesn't rank anymore iirc.
I mean, as pointed out by Rouk, it's not a super high decline in sales, it's pretty impressive for such a long-running manga to maintain all of its fan base. But yeah, expect not to see One Piece to see in the top 5 manga yearly from now on... And maybe not even in the top 10 in a couple of years... Of course, unless Shueisha brings their marketing team and do some magic.
The movie should be able to reach a new readership, but that's it.
Part 1 ended. Part 2 is set to start in the future.From what I have seen posted Chainsaw man is already selling better than JJK in USA, so with a good anime I can see it selling super well, but the problem is it already ended right?
I can see that making it a super great seller, a short manga is an easier sell.
From what I have seen posted Chainsaw man is already selling better than JJK in USA, so with a good anime I can see it selling super well, but the problem is it already ended right?
I can see that making it a super great seller, a short manga is an easier sell.
For the first time since Oricon started releasing weekly data, the newest One Piece volume did not top the ranking during its first week.
For the first time since Oricon started releasing weekly data, the newest One Piece volume did not top the ranking during its first week.
End of an era but well deserved to JJK.For the first time since Oricon started releasing weekly data, the newest One Piece volume did not top the ranking during its first week.