Jason Schreier: "Final Fantasy VII Remake's Box Art Sure Is Misleading"
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The difference is that this is a remake of a very huge and famous game from 20 years ago, not a brand new thing.
GOW is not a remake. Dosent matter how many sequels it gets, its a new game. Just saying FF7 Remake implies to be a remake of the full story of FF7 and its not. Its the remake os the 1st part of FF7 and that should be mentioned in the title by adding Vol1, Part 1, Episone Midgar, etc.
Not everyone follow gaming news closely but they might have played FF7 back then, and if they see the FF7 Remake, specially with a cover box that looks just like the original FF7 one, they will buy it thinking its the full story, just to end felling cheated when they see the credits roll when they get out of Midgar.
I meant moreso, post being misled, what happens then. Say you didn't know, you've bought the game, sank hours into it. What then? I'm trying to think objectively how I personally would feel of I had bought the title not knowing and aside from maybe being upset I'd have to wait, it wouldn't have harmed my experience with what I did play.
I mean like, yeah, I voted Yes for 'its misleading'. Because it is, but I feel like this late in the game its unlikely to change. Maybe square will notice the backlash, that'd be a nice thing tbh.
Stories being incomplete is more than just having a sequel hook. It's when the story leaves multiple character arcs unfinished, many of the story''s mysteries unresolved and many of the story's villains seen-yet-undefeated. AFAIK Mass Effect and God of War don't do that even if they do leave room for a sequel; you're still very much getting the 'complete' story which I just can't see happening here unless they intend for this to be a radically different remake in terms of story development.
That and Endgame came out a year after Infinity War instead of the 3+ years we're likely going to have to wait for Part 2 of this.
So if I was developing a Final Fantasy 9 remake and the game finished the moment you arrived at Lindblum, you'd call that a Final Fantasy 9 remake? Just stop please.
They already said they're remaking the FULL game and it will be episodic. So not informing customers that it's an episodic title IS misleading.
Some of the people posting in here really need to stop defending publishers/developers like they're not doing anything wrong. Lol
I expect a remake that in literally every single piece of information about it, aside from the front cover itself (the only part of the box we've seen so far), is one part of a whole.
We can disagree, that's fine. It's called having opinions.
Again it's because it's a remake of an old game that is the problem...
And how this doesn't applies to The Witcher? Every game is a episode in Geralt's life.
You can't use the term episode in a objective light like that lol
This will also happen here though. They are clearly making a storyline that will conclude in part 1.
Except it is not the same experience but a diffrent way bigger full experience.
Seeing the high reactions, high preordering of the first installment, I would argue that I think they know this is their money maker for the next couple years.
Lol that's intentionally misleading people though. Anyone who sees "part 1" and decides to wait for the "full game" would be waiting for the full FF7 story to be told before jumping in! SE can add as much high quality fluff and added story beats as they want, the game releasing next year is still only covering a small portion of the story that released decades ago.
You hit the nail on the head though. Square knows people would be less likely to buy part 1 knowing that it'll be a while and multiple future game releases before they get the conclusion to the story that they remembered from the ps1 days. But that doesn't make this any less slimy
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Similarly, people with no prior knowledge of Final Fantasy will see the climax at the end of Midgar as a satisfying conclusion with obvious sequel hooks.
I just cannot envision this theoretical angry person people are talking about in this thread.
Most people who already knew IT knew IT from the Television series instead of the book. It's like saying most people are going to see the Shining sequel because they read the book instead of because they watched the classic critically-acclaimed film.
Reading this thread has been funny just because it shows what a bubble some here live in.
Here's a small news flash folks. The vast majority of people who buy video games do not follow any sort of gaming news. The closest they get to it are commercials, a few trailers that get recommended to them on Youtube, and maybe the few seconds of crossover time we get on the mainstream news for big events like a new console being announced or E3.
These people will have no clue that this is an episodic release. Why would they? What other remake only remakes the first 10% of something? What precedent is there for this? I'm not saying Square can't, or even shouldn't release it this way. They need to communicate what they're doing though and titling it what they have with no other context is terribly deceiving. That's even more true when you use the same box art from the original game. That heavily implies you're getting a remake of that game. Not of part of it. People talking about the Last of Us and comparing it to its sequels are in another universe. The Last of Us was a full game, that later got a sequel. That's not at all the same. This would be like if a Last of Us remake only gave us the prologue to that game. No matter how much you flesh out that prologue, you'd sure better let people know that's what you're doing.
As for the idea that it could be on the back of the box, that's meaningless. Most consumers don't even bother to look at the back of the box. I can't recall ever doing so before buying a game unless I felt unsure about what I was buying. The nature of how they're presenting this game will leave people thinking they know what they're getting though. That doesn't account for how many people buy online and don't have the back of the box to look at, and how many buy digital where there is no box. It should be on the front cover, preferably in the title.
Here's a small news flash folks. The vast majority of people who buy video games do not follow any sort of gaming news. The closest they get to it are commercials, a few trailers that get recommended to them on Youtube, and maybe the few seconds of crossover time we get on the mainstream news for big events like a new console being announced or E3.
These people will have no clue that this is an episodic release. Why would they? What other remake only remakes the first 10% of something? What precedent is there for this? I'm not saying Square can't, or even shouldn't release it this way. They need to communicate what they're doing though and titling it what they have with no other context is terribly deceiving. That's even more true when you use the same box art from the original game. That heavily implies you're getting a remake of that game. Not of part of it. People talking about the Last of Us and comparing it to its sequels are in another universe. The Last of Us was a full game, that later got a sequel. That's not at all the same. This would be like if a Last of Us remake only gave us the prologue to that game. No matter how much you flesh out that prologue, you'd sure better let people know that's what you're doing.
As for the idea that it could be on the back of the box, that's meaningless. Most consumers don't even bother to look at the back of the box. I can't recall ever doing so before buying a game unless I felt unsure about what I was buying. The nature of how they're presenting this game will leave people thinking they know what they're getting though. That doesn't account for how many people buy online and don't have the back of the box to look at, and how many buy digital where there is no box. It should be on the front cover, preferably in the title.
lol literally all 4 of my friends in my text chain that I have thought this was the full game
"Final Fantasy VII Remake" isn't a full story, it's a remake of the opening of an old game.
Yep. I think people are massively overestimating the group of fans that supposedly love the original but somehow know nothing about this remake.
You don't think people who are unaware will be upset they spent $60 on a game that is only Midgar and not the full game because of misleading marketing? I could see some people upset that they wasted $60 and also their time, even if the game is 30 hours of Midgar.
That's what I'm talking about.
You think most people who played ff7 even know who those people are? Come on, ff7 is mass media cultural phenomenon levels. I know people where ff7 was the only game they ever even played. This shit is misleading to the common populace and anyone saying otherwise is being disingenuous.
It's telling how this thread is getting a ton of replies but the others aren't. People love their negative topics.
So the 10+ million people who will probably buy this all are following those news cycles?
Are you also believing that all 15+ million Pokémon fans that will buy Sword/Shield will know about the Pokédex issue? Completely different story, of course. But you are naive if you believe everyone is up-to-date on video game news stories.
Because the storyline of the first game ends with the first game. The storyline set in the second game ends with the conclusion of the second game. How is that difficult to comprehend?
They can't possibly follow the original if they modify this remake so much that they're somehow ending stuff at Midgar. It's precisely the moment where the bigger story is set up.
Then indicate that in the title. The title says its a remake of ff7.
I agree with the criticism. They should just name it FF7 Part 1, cant expect everyone to be as nerdy as us and follow gaming news.
I don't care about false advertising or whatever, I'm just mad that the titles are gonna be inconsistent when all the parts are out.
Now it'll be:
- Final Fantasy VII Remake
- Final Fantasy VII Remake Ch. 2
- Final Fantasy VII Remake Ch. 3
...
which is just annoying.
Now it'll be:
- Final Fantasy VII Remake
- Final Fantasy VII Remake Ch. 2
- Final Fantasy VII Remake Ch. 3
...
which is just annoying.
The games industry is odd with remake / remaster / reimagining. Like Spyro 123 was rebuilt from the ground up with all new assets but Activision called it a remaster.
This is a SE marketing/sales play. "Are we gonna sell as many copies if we slap Part 1 on it?" If they see a risk of loosing revenue then they won't do it. I think there's a small % of people that would actually skip it if it did. The kind of person that don't hang on video game boards or read gaming news all that much.
People are boring and annoying.
As long as it's in the back of the case, it's all good...
If people can't read that, I'm sorry for them...
Also, most of the fans know about the episode thing already, and for those not being fans, the part 1 will have it's end still...
As long as it's in the back of the case, it's all good...
If people can't read that, I'm sorry for them...
Also, most of the fans know about the episode thing already, and for those not being fans, the part 1 will have it's end still...
"The most misleading thing from that box is the claim that this is a PS4 release when we all know it's going to be a 2025 PS5 game."
This game would not exist if this was anywhere close to true
Modern day AAA games wouldn't be profitable if only hardcore fans who follow the news cycles for a given game bought them
Then you're wrong. I know people who havent touched a video game since ff7. This will trick them so badly. Like, "I bought a console to play a third of a game??? Gimme the number of a lawyer" type bullshit
It literally says its only the first part in the official description on storefronts and I dont think we have even seen the back cover yet either. I really dont think this is a huge issue where people are completely in the dark
I research all purchases beforehand, but I know several people who would see that box at a store and think it's a remake of the entire game.
So do we know what it says on the back of the box?
Would it be ok if that says "the first part" or something like that there?
Would it be ok if that says "the first part" or something like that there?
The game was obviously cut to 2 or 3 pieces, there's even some places that you can see but can't go to because of that.
FFVII being a remake is different? yep it is but not in a big way they are just treating it a different way, think of it as a book story that segmented to 3 movies.
I'm just talking about the segmenting part.
It's not about having a sequel or having a cliff hanger, it's about clear segmenting.
I agree with you on adding a subtitle will be best suited to this situation.
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