Wtf lmao. So now we're just insulting people because his words were misconstrued? I could say the same thing to my friends as speculation and they would understand immediately what I'm saying.
If you don't like Grubb that's fine but good lord lol
Jason Schreier on Sly Cooper Rumor: No truth to this one, sorry to say.
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If you don't like Grubb that's fine but good lord lol
View: https://youtu.be/BPtzkxO0Ges?si=kIRUnX55LWvPf2FO&t=403
So you would tell your friends that it's "been rumored elsewhere, and I have started hearing about it" about something that's just you speculating? Grubb flat out says he's "heard something" about a second Sucker Punch game causing GoT2 to take longer than expected, whether it's Sly or something different. Schrier is saying that's bullshit and Sucker Punch is a one game studio.
Guess what Grubb stans, just like Good Guy Phil he's not your friend either.
Me neither. Cannot say I am surprised though that Sly stays dead, sadly. Wish they'd at least put the old games on Steam.
This man throws so many wayward darts, but we still make everything he says news because he occasionally hits the board.
FF7 Rebirth broke my brain. It launched 3 years after Remake's DLC and it's insanely ambitious
Sly2 Character interaction is something many games even today can't do. If GoT2 is the same as Sly to Sly2, then GoT2 will be undoubtly game of the year.
Damn I do wish for a remaster of sly1-3 and infamous. No need for remake, I would even be happy for the former to just receive a port with trophies.
Damn I do wish for a remaster of sly1-3 and infamous. No need for remake, I would even be happy for the former to just receive a port with trophies.
Instead of a new Sly game, i'd rather Sony made a complete remake of the ps2 trilogy and released it on PS5 and PC
I'm not sure why people are running round hoops to defend someone who doesn't have a clue what they're talking about (Grubb, obivously, not Schreier). I'd have to double check if he told me the sky was blue.
"But [there is] definitely smoke out there. Maybe where there's smoke there's fire."
doesnt sound much like 'pure' speculation to me.
thats the thing about Grubb that rubs people the wrong way, he makes everything sound like he has some 'insider' info about it. even when he has none.
It's the most successful game sucker punch has ever made iirc. In July 2022, SP announced that it sold 9.73M copies ever since it launched in July 2020.
It's very likely getting a sequel.
It's not confirmed as in Sony and Sucker Punch confirmed it, but it just makes sense. A new IP takes a ton of work because you have to research all the stuff for your setting, characters, weapons and so on, and you also have to build your gameplay systems from the ground up. We also know from the Insomniac hack that as of June 2023, Ghost of Tsushima was the 7th highest grossing 1st party game on PSN ever, excluding the remaster. Again, with digital only and as of June 2023, the original release made $215,787,175, while the PS5 release made $66,665,998. That's a total of $282,453,173. They're not going to not capitalize on such a massive success
Revenue and Downloads for every Sony first-party game ever released on the PSN (580+ titles, as of June 2023) Sales - Sony
Screenshot of the Excel sheet Removed weekly revenue and weekly download charts and sorted by total revenue. 1-33 34-66 67-99 100-132 133-165 166-198 199-231 232-264 265-297 298-330 331-363 364-396 397-429 430-462 463-495 496-528 529-561 562-585
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Glad Jason debunked Grubb. Grubb is full of himself IMO as he blocked me years ago for liking a tweet of someone stating his rumors aren't always right and that he has been known for getting some things wrong. Don't get me wrong he is absolutely does get most things right but he doesn't haven't a 100% track record.
Even if there were room, a new Sly Cooper wouldn't be it.
I mean, come on.
- Grubb on a podcast: "THIS IS PURELY ME SPECULATING but maybe this could happen? It'd be cool"
-Resetera: New Grubb leak: "X is Happening"
-Insiders or studios: "This isn't happening, there's no truth to it"
-Resetera: "Grubb lies again! What a POS, Ban this source!"
The cycle repeats
-Resetera: New Grubb leak: "X is Happening"
-Insiders or studios: "This isn't happening, there's no truth to it"
-Resetera: "Grubb lies again! What a POS, Ban this source!"
The cycle repeats
Thieves in Time is actually great. I know Sanzaru games have already been bought but can Sony still hire them to make the next Sly?
I think this is the industry in general. But I think the best we'd do is Open Hub, like Stellar Blade...which coincidentally is how Sly has been structured for a while. I just don't think it would make its money back.
I really love that Jason tends to just debunk things to not let them run wildly out of control rather than leak a bunch of unreleased information that he likely has access to. There's a time for leaking things and it's not just to say "yeah I heard about a game that is going to be released/announced soon"
Yeah, Grubb always makes sure to preface these things with some form of "take it with a grain of salt" but people are very quick to disregard that
Yeah. Especially when... they very, very explicitly say they're speculating.
Having boxes for well sourced information, less than concretely sourced information, educated guesses, and sheer speculation is basic media literacy. It's obvious how that applies to insiders, too, but I'm not sure we've become much better at this in the decade I've been watching this community respond to them.
For better or worse, Grubb is 100% in the insider game. That means he's collecting information from first hand sources, second hand sources, and onwards; he's scoping out the rumor landscape and measuring who's saying what and what seems plausible; he's engaging in the less than scientific art of feeling out what what companies are likely going to do based on industry knowledge (educated guesses/informed speculation). In other words, all the boxes I mentioned above? He's having an ongoing conversation with an audience that's interested in the industry that is explicitly based on pulling from all of them. Like, simply talking about rumors is almost as much a part of that conversation as actually confirming or debunking them.
He is, additionally, part of a personality based video game website. The aforementioned conversation is happening across different formats with different amounts of news emphasis.
So yeah, it's incredibly unsurprising to me that sometimes Grubb will discuss a rumor that ends up being less than grounded. Especially if he directly tells you he's speculating, though, I feel it's fair to say that it shouldn't be hard to couch those rumors in the appropriate amount of salt.
1. This is barely an insult and worse is said about people here regularly.
2. It was his flub that he made, you can like him and still admit he messed up.
3. But also I think it's silly people even ran with it.
"Mostly speculation, so if you go write your headlines about this one then that is on you" then proceeds to talk about his hopes about seeing a Sly game.
Internet: I CAN'T BELIEVE JEFF GRUBB WOULD LIE TO ME
Internet: I CAN'T BELIEVE JEFF GRUBB WOULD LIE TO ME
With the supposed rumors of Sony doing a remake Uncharted, it's crazy how Jak is the one ND franchise that won't be getting anything of the sort.
Seems the defense squad doesn't want to acknowledge that he said this.
due to rising cost and time of AAA titles, anything deviating from the norm is frowned upon
this isn't a sony thing either
Because not many people buy them and the ones that do sell tend to be either lower cost projects or bigger IP.
Sony literally launched the PS5 with two platformers, one free and one with one of their family friendly IPs that has a history of platforming.
That second one was crossgen too AND it released on PC.
They know more than anyone how platformers do and they'll likely release another LBP game at some point to try again.
Could they just make them as lower budget games? In the PS3 era and early PS4 era they published smaller download only games. They could also develop them on the scale of like a PSP game. They don't have to have cutting edge visuals.
"It's been rumored elsewhere and I've started to hear about". The video is on this page.
No. I never believed it, but how can y'all be this defensive.
"Hearing about it, but mostly speculation." doesn't really make sense. You're hearing other people's speculation. Hell, I'm hearing people's speculation just being here.
Lol, what do you think Astrobot and the LBP game that launched with the PS5 are?
"Lower budget" games are still expensive games these days, just from the sheer amount of people you need to make them work, visuals be damned.