Jeff Fowler (Sonic the Hedgehog director): "You want changes [to the design]. It's going to happen."
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Oh man, super short but oh so good. I would listen to an incredibly long medley of different songs by him in a heartbeat.
To put this in perspective for all the folks who've suggested that the initial wary response to Detective Pikachu's designs is comparable, the first trailer for that has 61 million views... and only 68k dislikes.
from the twitter thread. this looks good imo
Just a quick and messy attempt at Super Sonic lol
They've already got the song, so I think they should just go full Coolio.
Blue face? Not cool Iio
Wouldn't fit the real world aesthetic anyway. Some other edits look betterThis has been my favorite redesign so far
This is the onefrom the twitter thread. this looks good imo
I don't think there's that much to rework. All they have to do is redo the Sonic model. The animation is already done so they just have to re-rig and tweak a little here and there. They're probably not even into rendering or just there, which is why they're able to redo Sonic. But who knows how much they're gonna change. Maybe just his eyes lol.
So much nightmare fuel in this threadThey've already got the song, so I think they should just go full Coolio.
Yeah, that's basically the only notable flaw here. The frowning monoeye looks good, but if you try much more it gets tricky.
The thought of it being a marketing stunt crossed my mind. Like maybe they made him look like that for only the trailer.
I've started to think that too. He's not in all that many trailer shots, especially standing still. And it is surprising that they listened to feedback at all, much less without delay.
What really makes the conspiracy theory appealing though is how bad the initial design was. Hard to imagine the whole cast and crew thinking it was fine before.
So they 'leak' the early promo and then show the trailer, featuring the freaky looking Sonic we initially got. Then they switch Sonic to a real design. Now, a movie we would have dismissed as mediocre at least seems good by comparison, and people are already invested in it from vocally hating the other design.
Not that I believe it... but seems like it could have a been a smart publicity stunt.
I think you're giving this team too much credit. It's not like all of the movie looked good and Sonic's design being an exception.
I'm going with Occam's Razor here which is its way way easier to imagine Hollywood just fucking up another videogame adaptation rather than all being a super smart and calculated marketing move. After all they've gotten really good at making poor decisions on videogame movies since 1993's Super Mario Bros. That's the one consistent thing about these films.
Oh, I agree. Occam's Razor is definitely the way to go.
Video game movies really do have an impressively consistent track record.
What the hell did I just watch? That's not from the Late Show is it? Does Baptiste just goes around playing Green Hill Zone?
And by "improvise" i didn't mean he made up the song right there, but he improvised at the moment to play that bit of the song during Colbert's jokes about the Sonic movie.
Track 7 on the album Hollywood Africans (2018)
But yeah, some good timing indeed
Pretty much this
I've been involved in a few productions with their own set of theories on what happened and often the reality of what happened isn't as complicated
A part of this I feel is people don't want to believe something so stupid could happen but...it does
I dunno, seems like a huge risk of marketing and budget to gamble on how word of mouth will spread. Even if they change it, the negative repsonse may still linger.
Thing is, if they change the design, the movie just looks like a regular kids film.
Also, the people trying to push some dumb theory that this is somehow a clever marketing tactic to drive interest in this movie are out of their minds. This isn't a leaked set pic or production artwork, it's the first goddamn trailer, the first impression that most would get of the movie. If their plan was to make their first big marketing push as off-putting as possible in hopes of winning people over with the "fixed" version, then they're moron and the result blew up right in their faces, as most of the potential audience for this movie has been alienated and isn't coming back, and the few who are still willing to pay to see this are incredibly skeptical of how you're gonna save this turd.
What's funny is that MORE people seem to be talking about the outrage on this, than Detective Pikachu when it aired. Like, my Youtube feed is nothing but "have you SEEN Sonic?!" I only had a few channels be like "oh, real Pokemon look pretty cool!" Even other news outlets that wouldn't normally cover this thing, but at least remember and recognize the old iconic Sega mascot, have pointed out how awful this is.
This is how big this shitshow got and in a way made this movie more free advertisement than it could've ever hoped to achieve. After Colbert made fun of the Sonic movie now it was even mentioned in SNL! I always knew this was a disaster but not so big a disaster that mainstream tv shows can't ignore it!
Check this Weekend Update segment at the 3:15 minute mark for it.
And yes this is an SNL YouTube clip which means it'll be geo-blocked in some countries.
What if this is all part of a very well thought through publicity campaign?
The only shots with weird sonic ate the ones in the trailer.
They baited us for a reaction, come back and say we're listening, then roll out the film which all along had an accurate sonic?
I mean the reaction they have had dye to bad sonic alone is off the scale publicity wise
The only shots with weird sonic ate the ones in the trailer.
They baited us for a reaction, come back and say we're listening, then roll out the film which all along had an accurate sonic?
I mean the reaction they have had dye to bad sonic alone is off the scale publicity wise
This is complete and utter bullshit.
There's already posters and displays of this Sonic at theaters worldwide. There's merchandise, toys, and what not. They did interviews about it. There's no way this was a calculated move. If there's one consistent thing about videogame live action movie adaptations are that Hollywood just don't get them and they've all sucked. I think it's just more plausible that this is the case of just another videogame movie Bollhwood didn't get than a masterful plan of deceit.
They could capitalize on all this free publicity but to say this was all intentional doesn't make any sense.
Yeah this is also why they spent over two decades making shitty Sonic games since the 90s so that Sonic Mania would get a positive response.
I didn't know there was a Sonic movie in the making until a friend send me this abomination of movie Sonic. Has definitely to change, however they're going to do it.
As someone who grew up on Sonic, I'm glad they're changing it, but the other problems with the story can't possibly be fixed. I wish they just set it in Sonic's world or something.
I'm not a big fan of Pokemon, but that film has the right idea, setting wise.
I'm not a big fan of Pokemon, but that film has the right idea, setting wise.
He seems relieved, haha.
Thanks for putting this into perspective.