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Jeff Grubb: Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora is in bad shape
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This is Ubisoft's Massive Entertainment team right? My experience playing The Division 2's endgame completely put me off of Ubisoft games. There was just endless patches attempting/failing to balance gear and special abilities that only upended the gear needed on a near weekly/monthly basis. Massive Entertainment play tested and 'balanced' their game with automated bots with all damage builds that completely negated defense/tech builds; had outrageous bugs like ai enemies walking around with SMGs that shot bullets with grenade like damage values on each bullet; and released an end-game raid that was so bad that the 12 people I played the game with completely quit the game.
I hope that the team works out the problems with this Avatar game, but I'm going to avoid this one. I'll see what the community says about the endgame a few months after release this time.
I hope that the team works out the problems with this Avatar game, but I'm going to avoid this one. I'll see what the community says about the endgame a few months after release this time.
Can't wait for another person to make a "just like the movie" post.
I think Ubi would be over the moon if the game will be received als well critically and commercially as the movie was.
I think Ubi would be over the moon if the game will be received als well critically and commercially as the movie was.
Don't really see the gameplay problems of a title not due until late 2023 or sometime in 2024 as being any kind of issue, honestly. This is just how game development works. If the issues hadn't been fixed by and Ubisoft decided not to delay there would be a serious problem*, but now it just doesn't matter any too much. Sounds like Ubisoft did the responsible thing with the delay.
*serious problem for Ubisoft. It's really fairly simple to ignore bad games and play something else.
they should take the time they need as the ip itself looks pretty much money-printer it they do things right
I don't want to discredit Grubb, I believe he genuinely reports on a rumor, but this is the most obvious rumor ever. We know the game shares assets with the movie and we've seen incredible visuals, so if it gets delayed by maybe two years, it's pretty obviously to do with the gameplay.
I wonder about that one, honestly. Does anyone expect Avatar 2 to do much? I'm not hearing any excitement about the movie anywhere. I can't say I've really got my finger on the pulse of the entertainment world, so maybe I'm missing something here.
My secret hope is that it's in bad shape because they're trying to change things up and not follow the Formula, and running into more road blocks because they're in uncharted waters.
it definitely will "do much", the real question is will it do enough to justify its gargantuan even by blockbuster standards budget
pre-covid I had little doubt that it would, now I don't really know
I mean, it COULD end up not being great in the end, but the number of devs who'll go, "God, even a month/two months prior to release, I was worried this wasn't going to gel," is pretty high.
I feel like most games are in very bad shape during parts of their development.
I feel like most games are in very bad shape during parts of their development.
So on the one hand, this makes perfect sense. On the other: in the delay thread, there were multiple posters who stated that they had heard previously the game was mostly done and just waiting for the movie to release. What I wanna know is: where the hell did the latter rumor come from if the game's actually been in bad shape for a while?
Cameron gonna nail it with the second one. He is the best at demystifying "second parts never were good"
Since they delayed it, even Ubisoft the masters of copypasted content and gameplay, seem to think it needs a semblance of it. The state must've been atrocious.
Man, I don't envy devs. If I was working on a project that isn't going well and someone leaks it to the internet -- I'd feel awful.
They've delayed it. So they're doing the right thing.
They've delayed it. So they're doing the right thing.
Anthem looks good and have great gameplay (at least shooting and flying feels great).
Sadly everything else is terrible. Performance, story, progression, loot, rng stuff, loadings, the stupid progression in the city.
If they just checked the graphics milestone they are in DEEEEEEP trouble
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Beyond Good and Evil 2, Skull & Bones and now this. There's something really wrong with Ubisoft
Why am I not shocked?
Good that they delayed the game. Let's hope it's not a Skull & Bones situation and game is in some kind of dev hell.
Good that they delayed the game. Let's hope it's not a Skull & Bones situation and game is in some kind of dev hell.
Bad gameplay in a Ubisoft game, color me surprised.
They sure will make it better before launch though.
They sure will make it better before launch though.
Seems strange to have the game content pretty much built while the gameplay is still rough. Shouldnt it be the other way around?
sounds like the graphics side of things has been handled better. bodes well for Ubisoft tech (as far as snowdrop is concerned)