Why I am not surprised, folks?
Halo Infinite, Forza Motosport, Redfall, Starfield and now this.
Halo Infinite, Forza Motosport, Redfall, Starfield and now this.
Jeff Grubb on Perfect Dark - "It sounds like it's in a very rough state. It doesn't sound like it's really come together in any way.."
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Massive shame. I'm a fan of both the original and Zero, and was looking forward to a new take on the series.
I've owned every Xbox generation but honestly maybe it's time they just die off. It's pointless.
Yeah, this really needed to be jumped on sooner. Though I can understand a struggle to find a suitable dev there since that game went through a wild ride with the original double helix getting bought my amazon, and eventually iron galaxy moved to rumbleverse.
I am still mad we somehow didn't get a toys for bob banjo too. Like THE perfect dev studio for that IP.
Ngl, I'm getting very worried for the rumoured Banjo revival with all these studio closures and stories of struggling game development from Microsoft. Just feels like they have no idea what they're doing.
Sure thing. Read the articles below. Gallagher talks about staying small and agile so it can work on a variety of projects, while also talking about partnering with devs worldwide.
I don't believe that went to plan though. I imagine they are squarely focused on getting Perfect Dark out the door, with a core team at The Initiative overseeing dev with Crystal Dynamics.
Xbox Game Studios 'The Initiative' talks 'staying small, staying agile'
Microsoft is setting expectations for its The Initiative studio, "staying small and staying agile" for its early days.
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Microsoft, please don't squander the Perfect Dark IP. It's been nearly 2 decades since the last game.
Can't believe CD are being wasted helping out on this for so long. This is the ONE game from XGS that I was excited for.
Thanks!Sure thing. Read the articles below. Gallagher talks about staying small and agile so it can work on a variety of big projects, while also talking about partnering with devs worldwide.
Xbox Game Studios 'The Initiative' talks 'staying small, staying agile'
Microsoft is setting expectations for its The Initiative studio, "staying small and staying agile" for its early days.
Gallagher is the head of The Initiative, but i'm unfamiliar with the other two names. Also from TI or Crystal Dynamics?
Edit: googled it and Amos and Rosenberg are to co-heads of Crystal Dynamics, oof. What is up with this industry and having shitty people at the top, man.
So are CD going to be doing this and also their big budget Tomb Raider games at the same time? Or are they just going to peace out soon because they have fulfilled their contract or whatever?
Has Microsoft under Phil Spencer release any really good game that wasn't bought out outside of Forza and Flight Simulator? What a disgrace of management. So many studios, so many good IPs and talented developers.
Nadella needs to clean house at Xbox department. Management there seems not very competent. I recall someone posting a video from somebody, who was at Xbox since early days, and they said that after Moore left things deteriorated quickly and basically turned into a cronyism infested shit show. I definitely believe that.
Amos and Rosenberg took over as co heads of studio at Crystal Dynamics after Gallagher left. Notably, Rosenberg was in hot water just a year before that transition for giving that infamous quote about the player wanting to protect Lara from being raped.
That's how I am feeling today too.
Forza came out the way it did. Now everything that has happened.
Morale is sure down the drains.
jfc. thanks for the insight. shame since PD has (had?) a lot of potential for a modern game imo... but yeah seems it will never happen.
Sea of Theieves (though took a bit for it to get good). I think Gears 4 and Gears 5 were great too, but both had some rough patches if I remember.
They are not recovering from this much bad press
They lost the trust of a lot of people.
Not surprised and maybe expecting a cancellation at some point. They have really misshandled the Rare properties in a very stupid way.
Who makes these choices? Why not try to make a great Banjo or a sequel to Kameo or something like Viva Piñata? Why Perfect Dark when they have other shooters. Why Perfect Dark without some good idea/commitment to something real?
A PD game in the style of the og N64 is not AAA these days. I am sure they don't want some mediocre cinematic SP game, they want some multi or something else, but how is it so hard to come up with something good?
Anyone know if Fable is doing better. I really need Fable to be great or I will lose every ounce of hope with MS.
After this gen I really don't see how MS is not just Gamepass they are fumbling everything that I care about.
Who makes these choices? Why not try to make a great Banjo or a sequel to Kameo or something like Viva Piñata? Why Perfect Dark when they have other shooters. Why Perfect Dark without some good idea/commitment to something real?
A PD game in the style of the og N64 is not AAA these days. I am sure they don't want some mediocre cinematic SP game, they want some multi or something else, but how is it so hard to come up with something good?
Anyone know if Fable is doing better. I really need Fable to be great or I will lose every ounce of hope with MS.
After this gen I really don't see how MS is not just Gamepass they are fumbling everything that I care about.
Such a great IP too. Such potential. I feel like in this day and age, just make an uncharted like and it'll probably do gangbusters. Feels like even Sony aren't making those kinds of games anymore.
Damn. Sounds like the studio's been through the wringer (on multiple fronts) these last few years. Wish that wasn't the case but I appreciate the insight
Instead of publishers Microsoft should buy managers who know what the hell they're doing. What an insane day.
It's a tricky property to revive as arguably Goldeneye/Perfect Dark are quite archaic by FPS standards.
Something like an Imsim with sandbox levels and a lot of player choice in how to approach objectives is probably not a bad idea.
Actually, Arkane would have been a good fit for the project.
Something like an Imsim with sandbox levels and a lot of player choice in how to approach objectives is probably not a bad idea.
Actually, Arkane would have been a good fit for the project.
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I mean they tried Banjo, it lead to Nuts&Bolt.
Industry wisdom lead them to believe that following that up with anything was a mistake and considering how 3D platformers are super popular outside of Mario...
Viva Piñata I have no idea why they didn't follow it through even with anything mobile or anything.
PD seems like a no brainer frankly, even if they CoD the campaign like that Goldeneye game just the multiplayer should have carried the project.
It's insane that the company that has created Halo is unable to make anything with Perfect fucking Dark!
He seems to be just an incompetent idiot. How has he not done anything in regards to the Windows team? It takes them months and months to fix a single fucking issue, some very important!
Yeah I've been feeling that way for a while now, I feel like any attempt at a Banjo revival is likely to wound up being a monkey's paw. I'm honestly just fine with the characters' memories living on in Smash Bros.
It wouldn't matter either way; this seems like a publisher pipeline issue and working underneath that umbrella, which would be an issue as a console maker or a 3rd party publisher.
Genuinely hope they just don't touch Obsidian with whatever it is they're doing because they're still consistently putting out great games.
having a smaller design studio work with a larger AAA studio doing a lot of the technical heavy lifting doesn't seem that crazy, but you need good management, good content pipelines and good synchronicity between the studios and MS doesn't seem to have any of that.
I've been in denial for years, but it's finally time to admit there's nothing left.
