Just like "Obi-Wan wan was just playing around with R2 and C3PO pretending not to know them" is not a retcon just expanding on the story
JK Rowling's latest retcon draws criticism from fans
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Just like "Obi-Wan wan was just playing around with R2 and C3PO pretending not to know them" is not a retcon just expanding on the story
Ever since JK Rowling decided Cursed Child is a good story and made it canon, I have lost all expectations of good HP story in the future.
She truly has become the George Lucas of the HP universe.
Plus she is very passive aggressive towards any sort of criticism but will criticize others without much thoughts.
She truly has become the George Lucas of the HP universe.
Plus she is very passive aggressive towards any sort of criticism but will criticize others without much thoughts.
Nah, that contradicts previously established stories. It's completely different. Nagini was a major "character" in the story that we knew next-to nothing about.
My opinion on this has flipped several times. At first I thought that explaining a backstory for a snake was dumb, but then I thought it would make sense for there to be something special about Nagini seeing as Voldemort's other horcruxes were all pretty special. But then I thought after seeing a split second of the trailer that having her being a woman that can turn into a snake is just dumb, but now the added context of her being a Naga seems pretty cool.
So...whatever.
JK is more likely to write a story about a heroic group of women witches who team up to make their bathroom safe from a dangerous male wizard who changes into a woman and invades their space.
I'm okay with this, and I usually hate retcons. But since this is NOT a retcon, it's fine. Though it could be handled better, but I haven't seen the last trailer and I'm waiting for the movie to judge anyway.
The George Lucas of videogames:
1. Sakamoto
2. Kojima
MGS4 was like the whole Star Wars prelogy in one game for me.
100% with you on this.
The George Lucas of videogames:
1. Sakamoto
2. Kojima
MGS4 was like the whole Star Wars prelogy in one game for me.
It contradicts all previous context for the character. Nagini was established as an animal controlled by a piece of Voldemort's soul. That's it. If there had been more when she wrote the books, it would be in the books.
It's the same as all those special objects in the books later declared to be Horcruxes. You don't think that was planned, do you?
No doubt, I mean I fully expect a major bad guy to be trans and be about the only representation we'll ever get for trans people in Harry Potter.
Oh man the story writes itself.
And it involves polyjuice potions.
I think the reaction to this has been overblown. I agree that no one needed a nagini origin, but this is not Lucas-level yet. When one of these movies is as terrible as phantom menace or attack of the clones, then we can talk.
So, if Voldemort was so fond of snake lady, why didn't he make her human again instead of screwing Belatrix?
The bolded is false. She was revealed as a Horcrux to establish that a living being could be one, alluding to the reveal that Harry himself was one. That's it. We know she obeyed him, but that did not mean she was controlled by his soul. We knew nothing about where she came from, what her connection to Voldemort was prior to becoming a Horcrux, or when she became a Horcrux.
Iirc Dumbledore's theory to why Nagini was made a horcrux was due to not only her presence during the murder of the groundskeeper, but that she had discovered Voldemort in Albania and been his companion.
In the same or a similar conversation in regards to the Horcrux, there was talk of how difficult and dangerous it was to turn a human into a horcrux. An animal would be difficult enough, which was what made Nagini interesting.
Those combined don't make this revelation a retcon, but it does shift what the understanding was from the original novels.
What this does help explain was Nagini at Godric's Hallow. Her being able to manipulate the corpse of Bathilda Bagshot to a convincing degree was always a point of confusion. I can't really buy all the Nagini was always clearly more than a snake, but that sequence sells it.
In the same or a similar conversation in regards to the Horcrux, there was talk of how difficult and dangerous it was to turn a human into a horcrux. An animal would be difficult enough, which was what made Nagini interesting.
Those combined don't make this revelation a retcon, but it does shift what the understanding was from the original novels.
What this does help explain was Nagini at Godric's Hallow. Her being able to manipulate the corpse of Bathilda Bagshot to a convincing degree was always a point of confusion. I can't really buy all the Nagini was always clearly more than a snake, but that sequence sells it.
Maybe he liked snake lady and wanted to fuck a snake!
Yeah this is my expectation.
Undoing a Maledictus curse might have been beyond his power.
Why do prequels have to make the world so small by basing everything on already existing central figures.
the lady who invented a race of hooknosed, cheating banking goblins is totally woke and I dunno why y'all are hating on her
Its only a matter of time until we have a "yoda" something and then the final mystery will die. I expect nothing less from Disney.
Serious question, how long until Rowling demands a "special edition" of the films with touched up CGI and toned down violence?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. People get worked up over nothing all the damn time geez.
I feel that you misread my post.
Nagini is an Asian woman, that is named after Hindi goddess, who is evil and becomes Voldemort's slave/pet.
None of that scream positive representation and that's the problem that people have.
I remember in an interview when she was asked about the fan's passion for the series and how they have seemed to have taken it for themselves and coming up stories about the Potter universe.
JK made it bluntly clear in a passive aggressive way that it's her story and she will not have the fan take it away from her. Plus if she can't take any sort of criticism then she's not a good writer as a writer needs to accept criticism in order to grow and learn.
My thoughts exactly. Some of the responses in this thread comparing her to fucking Lucas are fucking ridiculous.
''Oh what's this? LIKE!''
''That like was just a middle age moment.''
But we don't know if she is a slave/pet. We don't know anything about their relationship. How could he control Nagini against her will when he didn't even have a body?
Not necessarily. Nagini by the time she is turned into a horcrux is no longer human. She may be mentally intact (that aspect is rather unclear), but she's 100% a physical snake.
How is casting a Korean actress as a Naga with no race in the original source material the same as casting a white actress to play someone named Motoko Kusanagi?
It's corny faux world building, but it's not a retcon. And I can't imagine how pathetic someone would have to be in order to catch feelings because...a character of a certain race happened to have a less than glamorous role in a fictional story. Who cares. Not everyone is going to be the hero, or the cool villain. Sometimes you're a cursed chick who turns into a snake. It be that way.
God, I hated Fantastic Beasts. Stop tying needless shit back to Harry Potter! Fucking Star Wars prequel level shit all over again. I wanted a Fantastic Beasts movie. Not Dumbledore movie. Voldemort. Johnny Depp.
I like HP too much....this stuff annoys me more than it should.
I like HP too much....this stuff annoys me more than it should.
She should have followed her own advice when she approved Jack Thorne's fan-fiction Cursed Child. Truly cursed the series. It's the prequel or GT of Harry Potter.
"I want my prequels to be less prequel-y!"
These were announced as prequels, and we knew Grindelwald would be a key player from day one.
In the end, she did rubber stamp the whole idea of Voldemort having a secret love child with Bellatrix, so, nothing surprises me anymore.
I'm more curious how she's going to find a way to shit on Ron more in these films.
Dumbledore did tell Harry that there was no reason a living thing could not be a Horcrux, when explaining his reasoning behind suspecting Nagini of being a Horcrux. That Harry was a human Horcrux wasn't really the big twist. The twist was that he was a horcrux Voldemort never intended to make.
But, now we have to wonder why Voldemort would posses Nagini if she had a human intellect and was completely trusted by Voldemort.
And also why Voldemort would make a her a horcrux when she's 30 years older than he is.
I'm more curious how she's going to find a way to shit on Ron more in these films.
Dumbledore did tell Harry that there was no reason a living thing could not be a Horcrux, when explaining his reasoning behind suspecting Nagini of being a Horcrux. That Harry was a human Horcrux wasn't really the big twist. The twist was that he was a horcrux Voldemort never intended to make.
But, now we have to wonder why Voldemort would posses Nagini if she had a human intellect and was completely trusted by Voldemort.
And also why Voldemort would make a her a horcrux when she's 30 years older than he is.
