Great news about the vaccine, however there still needs to be a plan to mitigate the virus in the meantime.
The power of Grifting compels them.
Guess they need to go hard in the paint for this cause they ain't going to be endorsed by Biden lol.
Pretty sure that can get their tax exempt status revoked.
Theoretically anyway.
You can do this in states with open carry, yes.
fucking out of control
It's getting a recount, which will still go to Biden. Called after that officially.
Man, that's surreal. Truly Dangerous. I haven't followed Biden's proposal for some type of Gun Control, but this is really not necessary.
If it does go to a recount, I wouldn't expect ANY final tally for at least a few weeks after the start. EVERY vote will be looked at by both parties and argued over.
My parents are all full on the "voter fraud/faithless electors might flip it" train. It's upsetting to have people teach you morals and then sell out so hard for a man who displays only the opposite of all of those traits and beliefs. I can respect people of differing political views, but this is just different. It feels gross that they will believe anything someone says just because their name has a little "R" on the ballot.
I don't really engage in these conversations with them, because they'll believe the president over me. I did have a lengthy conversation with them about BLM when that came into the spotlight, and it seemed like my mom understood at least. But then a cop got hurt and they immediately flipped to "all lives matter". So what can I do to challenge this if the moment someone with authority says otherwise they'll flip?
It's kind of tough grappling with the idea that my parents are racists and hypocrites. I want to help, but it feels like a lost cause.
I don't really engage in these conversations with them, because they'll believe the president over me. I did have a lengthy conversation with them about BLM when that came into the spotlight, and it seemed like my mom understood at least. But then a cop got hurt and they immediately flipped to "all lives matter". So what can I do to challenge this if the moment someone with authority says otherwise they'll flip?
It's kind of tough grappling with the idea that my parents are racists and hypocrites. I want to help, but it feels like a lost cause.
False, Military ballots had until last Friday to come in, so if they aren't in at this point they aren't being counted.
Ah, okay thank you for the correction; I'll edit that out.
It really is a cult. You cannot argue with them. Best strategy is never talk politics with them again and set strong boundaries. Conserve your energy lol.
Sounds like Nov 20th, the votes must be given to the governor, according to state law.
Well then there won't be a ton of time for arguing or anything. Recount and that's it.
I mean sure they probably can. Problem is the venn diagram of people who are riled up and think there's election fraud and the people who go to churches who are saying things like that is just a circle. So as much as I want people to face consequences for what they do I also don't want to be catapulted into a civil war.
The thing that is extra difficult is that when they ask me things about it they act reasonable, but then when I hear them talking among themselves they say some real questionable shit. I already avoid talking politics in my area as a rule, but it can be kinda sad to see that kind of cognitive dissonance on display.
But yes, politics is a no-go after these four years.
Same. It hurts a lot, but I've just resolved that I'll never bring up politics if they never do.
They tried to teach my 2 year old daughter to chant "Trump 2020!" when they were babysitting (seriously, fuck them for this), but this was back in March. I wonder what's happened since then to make them less enthused about chanting for Trump? So weird.
Fucking dragging babies into this shit now? Trumpers are a literal cult.
Ironically they're the same drapes Clinton had up during his time in office.
I don't know why I said ironically, when it's clearly a total power flex.
Surely the answer to this is simply "if there is fraud, it will be proven in the courts, if the fraud is proven, and it was of a big enough impact to overturn the result of a state, then the result will be overturned".
Faithless electors is just flat out bad faith / hypocrisy.
Well, they sure as shit won't win a popular vote. This seems like their only play anymore. It's also why the electoral college will never be abolished unless there's a Dem blowout in Congress.
It really is strange. I just don't see what they do in this guy that has inspired such loyalty. Hopefully over time his legacy will fade, but I have a feeling we'll be dealing with this cult for a long time still.
Yeah, that's what I said to them when asked. Isn't stopping their anger though.
now? It's been like that forever in some states. Open carry is a thing unfortunately
MOAR!
(I'd donate, but I'm not allowed to meddle in the US elections!)
I admit that I was too and I am pleasantly surprised and happy it didn't happen. I just hope this isn't a delayed reaction: like they realize once and for that Trump can't steal the election back, they officially loose their shit. (I can be paranoid though, so grain of salt.)
Edited for abysmal SP mistakes and the like.
Ironically, i think (and hope) that Trumps increasingly pathetic attempts to legally challenge certain states` results over days and probably weeks will drain the "knee-jerk violence" energy of his more dangerous supporters.
Personally, I´m almost relieved he seemingly really thinks he can win on legal terms due to voter fraud (which he won´t) instead of directly trying to incite violence and start an armed coup or some shit
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Yeah, the last week truly opened my eyes to many subjects I been oblivious to. This is ridiculous. "Ma Freedom" has nothing to do with carrying long rifles around like it was a cellphone. What's the purpose of carrying like that? So if a fight happens, you can start shooting? It literally doesn't have an outcome that is not negative. They really need to reverse and put some gun control back in the nation.
oh...damn. i'd have trouble leaving my kid alone with them after that stunt. especially if our political differences were known.
Cities were celebrating. There would have to have been large scale coordinated efforts from Trumpers to have rallies in cities for there to be confrontations.
We get that senate majority and we can hopefully see some big gun reforms.
Cause damn did I realize, only thing that stopped mass shootings was a pandemic. Before that it felt like there was one every other week.
Trump's Presidency was just to satisfy his ego. It was never about public service. The fact that 70 million ppl voted for this narcissist is troubling.
There may be isolated once they realize Trump is well and truly fucked, but hopefully time will dilute a lot of the anger from the less crazy supporters. They'll still be angry enough to bitch on Facebook and Twitter, but most of these people are all talk and bluster. They aren't going to do shit.
I certainly hope not. Maybe some of them can even look back on this and realize how crazy it all was and move past Trump and his stupidity. I won't hold my breath, but I can pray and hope.