Joe Rogan apologizes for past use of racial slurs: 'It makes me sick'
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The problem with Rogan is that he consistently platforms right wing nutjobs like Shapiro and his ilk. So this apology, no matter how sincere, is useless.
Pledge to not platform racists and bigots, then we'll talk.
Pledge to not platform racists and bigots, then we'll talk.
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Well said. I think people who don't follow closely far right, neo nazi, and other extremists are unaware of how splintering their audience works or have seen how effective deplatforming can be. Look at Milo Y, and other neo nazis. Once their social media platform was taken away from them, they moved to other less known bigoted places. Once their main donation sources banned them, their resources dwindled. Audiences won't follow the figures for years in this constant deplatforming and moving cycle. Then they start losing money and become bankrupt.
Milo Y. reveals just how effective deplatforming is
Apparently his Telegram group is tanking now too. I don't even know what Telegram, Gab and Parler are. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEAIfMXW4AAHwPh?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEAIfMeXYAU1bnN?format=jpg&name=small...
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Similar things can happen to Joe Rogan. If he gets banned from Spotify, YouTube, Patreon, Kickstarter, Gofundme, and other sponsors, millions of his captive audience won't be captive anymore. They'll start questioning why he's getting banned and if there's any value to such actions. People who think that's impossible are just not following the history of how these things go.
First of all, this was nowhere close to an apology. This was 100% him finally feeling a little pressure from Spotify and being forced to say something about it to try and staunch the bleeding of actual talent from the service.
Come on. You really, seriously think he's sorry for saying racist shit? Just last week the dude said the only people who were truly black were "naked-in-the-jungle black". He's no better now than he was when he said the things that got him in hot water in the first place.
Aside from that, it had the usual trappings of a disingenuous apology. "Not who I am", "Taken out of context", "I'm not racist because I say so", etc. Unlike Spotify, it was playing all the greatest hits.
looks like we're still waiting for that answer, I see.
my favorite posts are the ones that "fire and forget" in sensitive threads.
It's kinda wild to me how it's both a horrible apology and yet also one of the better apologies I've read from a celebrity. Fuck off Rogan, the word has never been ok
You don't get to call a black neighborhood the planet of the apes and apologize and be redeemed.
Last week he said real black people are the darkest skin in the heart of the jungle naked wearing no clothes.
He's a fucking racist.
Did he apologize for the COVID misinformation?
Did he apologize for the transphobia?
Did he apologize for the racism on his show LAST WEEK?
Will you respond to replies like this? Probably not.
You're generalizing. We all have different reasons for not accepting his apology. His apology even seems genuine, but the problem is that it's useless if he doesn't change the people he brings on.
You dropped a blistering take and bailed, having called out this forum in what amounts to some bullshit shadowboxing with people giving a shit, which gets under your skin for some reason.
In light of that, how about you stop being a coward and reply to just one person that quoted you?
iheartradio's parent company is iheartmedia, which used to be known as Clear Channel. Of course they're right wing.
Lol, you really should read some of the replies you got to understand how ridiculous your post was.
Redemption isn't something that's done through some "I'm sorry" post. That's the first little baby step if he wants to go that path.
Platforming the very people you hurt, accepting their view on you, supporting and donating to movements like BLM, calling out racism and bigotry over years will get you there.
Using your platform and energy you used to hurt people to actually help and support them goes a long way.
Platforming the very people you hurt, accepting their view on you, supporting and donating to movements like BLM, calling out racism and bigotry over years will get you there.
Using your platform and energy you used to hurt people to actually help and support them goes a long way.
"I never used it to be racist, because I'm not racist."
Any white person saying this just tells me they lack self-reflection and are ignorant about just how deep subconscious racism runs. Every white person who grew up around other white people in a mainstream society is almost by definition racist. The question is what you're going to do about it. Ignoring the fact doesn't accomplish much.
Any white person saying this just tells me they lack self-reflection and are ignorant about just how deep subconscious racism runs. Every white person who grew up around other white people in a mainstream society is almost by definition racist. The question is what you're going to do about it. Ignoring the fact doesn't accomplish much.
It might seem impossible now, and it certainly is unfortunate, but his podcast has been slowly building up over the years. For Rogan, it was the timing ( he was among the first to really deep dive into podcasting ), his "I am a man's man - someone who can ask stupid questions and has no agenda" -vibe, the fact that he used to have interesting guests ( YEARS ago ), and his celebrity standing as a shouting comedian slash UFC host. I mean - you can still think "but why this turd?", and you are right, it shouldn't be possible. But this is the world we live in, and here we are.
Bet money with his next guest he is whining about people digging up old shit, "out of context" clips to cancel and deplatform him. And his guest tells him if cracker is a "slur" people are allowed to use, Joe should be able to say the n word while Joe solemnly agrees.
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I'd go further and suggest that there's nothing he could do or say that would get redemption from this forum. But then his message probably wasn't aimed at this forum.
And if your immediate response is "well actually he did push back" I'm going to ask in return why the fuck is he giving white supremacists a platform to spout pseudoscience in the first place. And why is his only "push back" to politely disagree with them?
Insanely funny situation.
He started the podcast like what, 2010? When he was in his mid forties? And he's like "I had no idea I couldn't use that word"
Lmao
Guess being an iconoclast about vaccines got a little too real for Spotifys bottom line and they gave him a call
He started the podcast like what, 2010? When he was in his mid forties? And he's like "I had no idea I couldn't use that word"
Lmao
Guess being an iconoclast about vaccines got a little too real for Spotifys bottom line and they gave him a call
Lmao and how did white peaceful farmers end up populating most of America? That guest is a dork.
Lets be honest, that apology was only for people who didnt think an apology was needed in the first place.
The words" I am sorry" do not just magically cancel out racism. If they did, one could go on a racist rant daily, as long as they added the words I am sorry at the end.
If I went on a racist rant in this forum, got called out, then later followed up with gee I am sorry that wasnt me, my ass will still get banned because the damage is done.
It is amazing how it is only racism that needs to just be forgiven immediately with shallow words. Because I bet you anything if somebody steals money from your wallet, says they are sorry, you aint leaving your wallet around them again for a long ass time.
I remember that one, we had a thread about it.
What's spectacular in the timeline here (besides the obvious use of slurs) is that Rogan has :
- platformed this dude and his overt nineteenth century pseudoscientific racist shit, replying "OMG that's so interesting"
- said mixed race people had the best of both worlds with the body of a black man and the brain of a white man
- said last week white and black people didn't really exist, so all that shit about white people made no sense, while giving a friendly platform to far right piece of shit Peterson (shame Peterson's daughter never finished what she started)
- apologized days later for his continued public use of the n word
That guy is all over the map of racism. Which makes that nuclear take upthread incredibly bad. Yeah, thetrin the problem is how this forum doesn't accept insincere half assed apologies, not how you're doing backflips for a huge racist.
You're right, it was aimed at dumb shit moderates who are intuitively okay with racism and who were always gonna accept the weakest possible apology.
I'm going to repost what I said earlier; actions speak louder than words. It's not enough to simply throw out an apology and get instantly let off the hook; you actively need to change your behavior. Going "woopsies, I accidentally said some slurs in the past, that's not the type of person I am" only to continue to platform rightwing white supremacists on his platform who spout their bullshit pseudo-science, doesn't sound like someone who is actually sorry.
And even then, apologizing doesn't mean you actually deserve to be forgiven by the people you hurt either. It's up to them to determine if they feel your apology was actually sincere and warrant forgiveness.
lol damn. I agree with you and this statement... but not in this regards. Joe Rogan don't give a shit. He's just feeling the heat. But I do agree with your statement and the way it pertains to this forum.
I know I might be blowing some minds here, but, Racism doesn't just accidentally happen. You don't just accidentally say the N word repeatedly. You don't just accidentally say White brains are superior. You don't just accidentally say Black people aren't Black enough. If you say shit like that, yep, you are a racist.
Yet, people come in here trying to shame others for not forgiving Rogan for being a racist. Maybe it is because Rogan is not apologizing for being a racist? Rogan is trying to sell that he accidentally does racism and feels bad about it. That is not how racism works lol.
Makes me wonder if people are telling on themselves a bit. Like if you think saying racist shit is something that can just accidentally happen, I got to wonder how many times they might have let slip some accidental racism.
Rogan is a grown ass man and has proven to be a racist. If he actually is sincere he would acknowledge he has a problem he needs to work on and not try to sell it as him just making a whoopsie daisy sometimes.
Yet, people come in here trying to shame others for not forgiving Rogan for being a racist. Maybe it is because Rogan is not apologizing for being a racist? Rogan is trying to sell that he accidentally does racism and feels bad about it. That is not how racism works lol.
Makes me wonder if people are telling on themselves a bit. Like if you think saying racist shit is something that can just accidentally happen, I got to wonder how many times they might have let slip some accidental racism.
Rogan is a grown ass man and has proven to be a racist. If he actually is sincere he would acknowledge he has a problem he needs to work on and not try to sell it as him just making a whoopsie daisy sometimes.
What's this about people saying he's apologized twice?
Did I miss something, he apologized for his antivaxx shit?
Of course, doesn't apply to non-white people. PoC's bad actions are unforgivable.
Did I miss something, he apologized for his antivaxx shit?
"Because if you don't forgive and forget this white dude, it means you might not forgive my white ass for all the shit I said and did, and how is that fair?!"
Of course, doesn't apply to non-white people. PoC's bad actions are unforgivable.
If I recall correctly, Trin isn't white.
Which doesn't make the statement any better, but is a reminder that racism is pervasive. It's been in our environment from the time we're born and will almost certainly still be there when we're gone, so we need to be aware of it around us and make efforts to be rid of it, not just take for granted that we're somehow immune.
I just saw what he said.... last fucking week....
So he's like, I'm sorry for saying the N word, but that shit I said like week is fine?
Wtf??
Last time I checked, being racist is more than just saying the N word.
So he's like, I'm sorry for saying the N word, but that shit I said like week is fine?
Wtf??
Last time I checked, being racist is more than just saying the N word.
Thank you. Also he's sorry for ppl finding out. Because recent shit from him is just as bad. But...how is he even allowed to say that wild shit he's been saying recently? Who the fuck is his audience?
This is one hell of a take on the situation.
Doesn't matter if they're "not white". Plenty of "not white" people don't give a single shit about Black people and will go to any length to excuse racism against black people.
Shit, there are some Black people that will do the same due to a misguided need to prove to white people that they "one of the good ones".
So yea, dude may not be white but he could make some incredibly effective toothpaste with the bullshit they spewing….
Gonna make a wild comment like that then dip out the thread? Nah, they might not be white but god damn they doing their best impression.
"Men don't change. We only pretend to" is a piece of wisdom that everyone has to learn at a point in their life. If resetera members forgive so easily, they are going to be in for some bad experiences in theirs.
Definitely. As someone who has never watched his show, I had no idea that he was the type to say slurs casually before this.
