John Boyega (The Force Awakens, The Rise of Skywalker) open to Star Wars return if Kathleen Kennedy and J.J. Abrams are involved
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JJ made Finn:
-Automatically infatuated and obsessed with the first white girl who crossed his path.
-Made him a Space Janitor so that he could be the butt of a joke.
-Gave him a lightsaber just so that he could be the delivery boy to the real hero of the story, the white girl.
-Put him into a coma.
And that's only from the "good" one
-Automatically infatuated and obsessed with the first white girl who crossed his path.
-Made him a Space Janitor so that he could be the butt of a joke.
-Gave him a lightsaber just so that he could be the delivery boy to the real hero of the story, the white girl.
-Put him into a coma.
And that's only from the "good" one
In this episode we explain again why having your character screaming a girls name first thing whilst half naked might not leave the best impression of the direction in both the character's and audience's minds but whatever at this point the subject has been discussed and is largely moot.
It's almost like they could have started TLJ with a time skip instead of literally hours after the first movie. Luke lost his hand in ESB omg, time skip, moving onto to new things. They didn't need him in a coma even, TLJ could have started with him awake and getting better, boom. Or recovered weeks later and out and about. They had millions of things and ways to go with after TFA ended.
Loyalty loyalty loyaltyyyy.
There was an article in the NYTimes (I think) about how he was relieved to be working with JJ again for TROS.
I feel as though JJ was setting up Finn for something big, then TLJ shit on it, then JJ had to scramble to make something for TROS since he was brought back at the last minute.
Poor guy was probably working with scraps and just needed to conclude a trilogy in the most convenient way possible.
There was an article in the NYTimes (I think) about how he was relieved to be working with JJ again for TROS.
I feel as though JJ was setting up Finn for something big, then TLJ shit on it, then JJ had to scramble to make something for TROS since he was brought back at the last minute.
Poor guy was probably working with scraps and just needed to conclude a trilogy in the most convenient way possible.
Yeah, hate the bait and switch in the trailers for me before TFA. Like neat a black Stormtrooper turned Jedi. Oh, wait it's the white girl and this guy is kinda a joke in the 2nd half. I feel like people remember a different movie when they say TFA treated Finn with respect. He was a side character there too.
Because JJ resolved Rey's search for Luke in a 2 minute montage and a cliffhanger scene that absolutely needed to be continued.
Rian did him so dirty.
How do you take an actor like Boyega and tell him to do a fucking sight gag in a leaky water suit.
How do you take an actor like Boyega and tell him to do a fucking sight gag in a leaky water suit.
I mean it kinda made sense didn't it? He got knocked out by Kylo while not knowing Rey's fate. Plus his entire character arc in TLJ is moving from only caring about Rey to giving a shit about what the Resistance is fighting for.
Dude tried to bail out the first chance he got before he got tasered by Rose, because he only cared about finding Rey.
But it had to pick up directly from the lightsaber hand off. That's not something you can time skip past when the aim is to have Luke be gradually won over by Rey after initially rejecting her.
However you feel about Finn's story in TLJ and TROS, there was no place for him to go after how his story turned out in TLJ. It essentially wrapped up his arc. At least his arc as RJ saw it. There was no time to develop him into a jedi or whatever in TROS since that aspect wasn't developed at all in TLJ, and he had no room in the Rey/Kylo conflict either.
Finn went from the co-protagonist of the main story to the co-protagonist of (essentially) a sub story (that wrapped up with a neat little bow).
Finn went from the co-protagonist of the main story to the co-protagonist of (essentially) a sub story (that wrapped up with a neat little bow).
Make him a Jedi and I'm all for it.
As a huge Star Wars fan, I was so excited going into it thinking that we were going to have a main character, that was black and a Jedi...and we all know how that turned out.
As a huge Star Wars fan, I was so excited going into it thinking that we were going to have a main character, that was black and a Jedi...and we all know how that turned out.
I'm in the "I enjoyed Finn's arc in TLJ" boat, but as the middle chapter, it did kind of depend on the third movie building to something bigger. The fact that TROS entirely failed to actually move that thread forward does retroactively make his role in TLJ feel thin when looking at it as a trilogy. I think it's entirely JJ's fault, but I at least get why some people don't enjoy it.
Man, y'all sure are quick to tell the black guy that his feelings on who he feels comfortable working with are wrong.
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You absolutely can. In fact I'm pretty sure it's more usual to have a time skip after these kinds of cliffhangers (it can even be a short time skip like a week later or whatever) than picking up immediately afterward.
It's crazy that he made a good Star Trek and a good Star Wars, then followed them up with a bad Star Trek and a bad Star Wars.
Yes but he didn't have to be naked , he didn't have to be screaming at the top of his lungs, he didn't even have to get dragged by the nose to fight for a "higher purpose ".
The basis of TLJ Finn's character growth was that he was selfish. And to be fair that is true, but by that logic everyone who fights for the rebels without adhering to some misguided care for the rebels who basically you just met is selfish.
In my eyes Finn's growth should have been to fight the rebels but not for the rebels he barely knew but for those he may have left behind. And I think that's what's frustrating about Finn's backstory and character. The backstory and blocks where there for him to be an independent and well defined character who didn't even need to join the rebels but instead both JJ and Rian wrote him to the point where he is just another faceless funny Blackman soldier.
And by god if people keep trying to justify that a child soldier not wanting to fight for the other side is cowardly ....
Just goes to show anyone can become a Jedi which is what people keep screaming about the point of TLJ was. Simple Janitorial Stormtrooper breaks his bonds and develops deep ties to a core of friends while discovering his own ability to use the force.
I said what I said, TLJ started his side character role, he was the secondary main character in tfa in tlj he was made into a side character
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A script is a script. An actual finished movie is a different thing. Lots of things change.
At any rate, that script was never filmed, so we have no way of knowing how it would have turned out and how it would have been handled. Our imaginations are essentially filling the gaps.
Sure. But it was treated as the butt of a joke here… never to be referenced again.
People gonna read more into this then they should. John co-signing working with JJ again isn't a Rian sub. He probably just has personal chemistry with JJ.
Oh man… it could be… I never seen TROS again after seeing it the first time.
Episode X, opening scene. Rey is tossing and turning in bed, then suddenly sits bolt upright with a shout. Finn, startled awake in the bed next to her, fumbles for the light switch, flicks it on. Alarmed, he asks "what's wrong?!" Rey, breathing heavily, says "I just had the weirdest dream..."
and then the opening crawl to Episode VII: What REALLY Happened begins.
and then the opening crawl to Episode VII: What REALLY Happened begins.
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Really this has been avoided many times, they just could use flash backs to what actually happened, or followed up then moved on forward back to Finn who is waking up and a ok. You also have the magic star wars timeline where folks jump from place to place with no stated time frames. In ESB apparently weeks and days go by between individual scenes but we have no clue, especially with hyperspace travel
"I don't care if you feel comfortable working with JJ, he made the movie I don't like so you must be wrong."
Seeing the initial rejection happen is just flat out more impactful then skipping ahead a week and implying that it has happened.
Starting that story with Rey having spent a week waiting for Luke to come out of his hut is just a boring way to come back to that thread. It also skips him finding out about Han's death which he finds out immediately upon seeing chewie/falcon and is another important part of his rejection of the hero role.
And alternatively jumping ahead to Luke already having warmed up to rey would be starting Luke's arc a quarter of the way into it.
He made the worst on screen version of Finn too. A super offensive take on a character I enjoyed up until episode 9. So forgive me for having an opinion lol.
just watched the scene and no he didnt.
but damn, that scene is good.
and yet, JJ couldn't commit to say openly he is force sensitive
Who are you to tell him who he should and shouldn't feel comfortable working with?
Whatever your opinions of any of the movies are, none of them matter here. What matters is how John feels.
correct, and becuase john is not here, and we cannot actually talk with him, we are talking about the movies
