I've been showing the anime to my girlfriend who doesn't even care for anime and she's digging it so far. We're by Stardust Crusaders. Avdol's her favorite character which is hilarious to me because he's gonna get shot in the head in a few episodes.
If I'm not mistaken Avdol dies a third time in Steel Ball Run.
He wasn't the first so it's fineIf I'm not mistaken Avdol dies a third time in Steel Ball Run.
Avdol up in heaven watching SBR him die:
Honestly i don't remember, he was such a disappointment my mind decided to erase him for good :(Am I missing something or did Avdol definitely not die and just got seriously injured by a cactus? it was a moment played for laughs, and if gyro hadnt been so ruthless he would def have been a major contender in the race.
well I'm pretty sure he was fine. it felt like he wasnt a major character specifically because he was so close to the original avdol it would have felt like a rehash. i could see a descendent or ancestor being a jobro in a hypothetical future part.Honestly i don't remember, he was such a disappointment my mind decided to erase him for good :(
I was expecting his fate to be much worse.
lets be honest, if he'd kept going in the race he would have had his arms chopped off by "Vanilla Minus" (https://youtu.be/d0F_xMdMvNo) who would either be a stand user or a guy who throws very sharp knives, and is a huge Diego fanboy.
We both do. By right he needs to be the most fabulous.
jotaro kujo goes to new york, and ends up fighting gangs with the help of his old friend haruno shiobana who has become the leader of a mafia family (he had to change his name and dye his hair to fit in)
Swap jotaro for jolyne or josuke and i'm in, maybe keep the guy as a mentor figurejotaro kujo goes to new york, and ends up fighting gangs with the help of his old friend haruno shiobana who has become the leader of a mafia family (he had to change his name and dye his hair to fit in)
jolyne and josuke already have their counterparts in the new continuity. if steel ball run was a reimagining of part 1 in a different genre, and jojolion is that for part 4 and kind of 6, it makes sense to me that if part 9 existed it would be some amalgam of part 3 and 5. I know you'd prefer jotaro didnt show up again, but i just find that a bit unlikely.Swap jotaro for jolyne or josuke and i'm in, maybe keep the guy as a mentor figure
I think caato=jolyne is too loose to be considered, i mean, it's as much as a parallel as Jobin = Giorno and jobin is a god damn "drug" dealerjolyne and josuke already have their counterparts in the new continuity. if steel ball run was a reimagining of part 1 in a different genre, and jojolion is that for part 4 and kind of 6, it makes sense to me that if part 9 existed it would be some amalgam of part 3 and 5. I know you'd prefer jotaro didnt show up again, but i just find that a bit unlikely.
It's not. Ireneverse is the same as the original universe but with minor differences and no Pucci.Wait so SBRverse isn't the universe Pucci created? I always forgot if that's the case or not.
kaato was in jail for 15 years at green dolphin street prison and has a similar hairstyle. I think its pretty overt. I never got any hint Jobin was meant to be giorno.I think caato=jolyne is too loose to be considered, i mean, it's as much as a parallel as Jobin = Giorno and jobin is a god damn "drug" dealer
Jotaro has 3 similar counterparts
Edit: wouldn't it be better to just use Joseph? He hasnt shown up yet
Honestly you could loosely fit a lot of people into giorno's role because they're dealing with mafia stories... none that'd satisfy me to the point of saying"THATS HIM", same for Caato/Jolyne... she has the hair and all but idk, i wished the Jolyne got a part... she's also much more greedy than the jolyne i remember xD though everyone from original verse is a bit worse as a personkaato was in jail for 15 years at green dolphin street prison and has a similar hairstyle. I think its pretty overt. I never got any hint Jobin was meant to be giorno.
you mean kira, right?Honestly you could loosely fit a lot of people into giorno's role because they're dealing with mafia stories... none that'd satisfy me to the point of saying"THATS HIM", same for Caato/Jolyne... she has the hair and all but idk, i wished the Jolyne got a part... she's also much more greedy than the jolyne i remember xD though everyone from original verse is a bit worse as a person
Though josuke didnt really got a part since he's sharing it with jotaro isn't he lol?
Josefumi kujo and kira are josuke, these are jotaro and kira, josefumi is even going through the same quest jotaro did(saving holly), except he's cooler D:you mean kira, right?
I don't think its reasonable to think of this as a direct reboot of each and every individual part. some characters will have different roles and be more in the background. seems like thats what's happened to Kaato (though i expect she'll be important in the endgame, and feel like shes been built up as that from the start).
As with Avdol, the point of the new universe has never seemed to be to solely bring back characters in an extremely satisfying way. a lot of the time they're just cute references, and even when they're more fleshed out they're treated as completely different people. (cuz they are)
Based on some things Araki has said, I think the only reason he doesnt make it a completely different non-referential universe each part is so he doesn't feel like he's trying to pretend his earlier work doesnt exist.
It's more of a writing constraint/experiment than a series that is totally beholden to itself, anymore.
Josefumi is meant to sound like Joseph. Kujo is jotaro's last name, sure, but I don't think that counts as much, lot of mixed last names. and he literally looks exactly like Josuke. I think of him more as a version of Josuke and I feel like I'm meant to. Its possible that he even has the same origin, since he was raised by a single mom who didn't seem to have expected or wanted a kid, and might have met SBR's Joseph Joestar.Josefumi kujo and kira are josuke, these are jotaro and kira, josefumi is even going through the same quest jotaro did(saving holly), except he's cooler D:
I think he's getting some character concepts he had and updating them, kira got a small redemption, jotaro got reworked int josefumi and Kyo(who is also okuyasu), koichi is much cooler now in hirose-chan, and i love what he did to yukako, but at the same time it makes the lines between paralleles really blurry...
You could make a case for, say, shizuka being tsurugi, sonce they shared their initial appearance and are both kids without control of their stands, some characters are very mixed up
Yeah, we have plenty of jotaro parallels, and can make a case for jolyne and joseph, but the ones for giorno are so loose...Josefumi is meant to sound like Joseph. Kujo is jotaro's last name, sure, but I don't think that counts as much, lot of mixed last names. and he literally looks exactly like Josuke. I think of him more as a version of Josuke and I feel like I'm meant to. Its possible that he even has the same origin, since he was raised by a single mom who didn't seem to have expected or wanted a kid, and might have met SBR's Joseph Joestar.
I agree that there are a lot of Jotaro-likes in Jojolion, tho, Kira and Kyo stand out as feeling very analogous. (not to mention they're both Holly's actual children)
Probably a blessing considering SBR's death count. He definitely would have died if he stuck around.
Josuke already broke into child Giorno's house while fighting Kyo, he even had Giorno's ladybug on his shirt.
Any sbr supporting character that didnt get killed(or character-killed?) .-. That part is brutalProbably a blessing considering SBR's death count. He definitely would have died if he stuck around.
im always assuming jojolion will be the last :/Really though, SBRverse Giorno should appear in Part 9 (if that ever happens). Introducing any expy of him this late in part 8 would feel like a waste.
oh absolutely he should be a protagonist or a main jobro (gyro or yasuho level)Probably a blessing considering SBR's death count. He definitely would have died if he stuck around.
Josuke already broke into child Giorno's house while fighting Kyo, he even had Giorno's ladybug on his shirt.
Really though, SBRverse Giorno should appear in Part 9 (if that ever happens). Introducing any expy of him this late in part 8 would feel like a waste.
Any sbr supporting character that didnt get killed(or character-killed?) .-. That part is brutal
At least in vento aureo Araki spared Mista lol
im always assuming jojolion will be the last :/
before i finished stone ocean I had no idea how much of an ENDING it really was. What we're getting now just feels like a really cool bonus, which is still awesome. but that story definitively ended, and the lengths gone to in order to make it clear the new continuity is wholly separate are pretty wild.I'm fairly certain those subtitles are inaccurate.
But nevertheless, I do suspect that JoJolion is the final part. Thematically, it makes a lot of sense to end it all here.
He's put so many jojos in a single part, also the name, it really feels like itll end there. It's all about breaking a family curse, last time that happened we got SOI'm fairly certain those subtitles are inaccurate.
But nevertheless, I do suspect that JoJolion is the final part. Thematically, it makes a lot of sense to end it all here.
He's put so many jojos in a single part, also the name, it really feels like itll end there. It's all about breaking a family curse, last time that happened we got SO
I really hope we dont need to break the universe this time xD
What the fuck are these subtitles? He's not talking about the anime. At all. There is not a single topic he's talking about that's reflected in the subtitles, and vice-versa.
ok apparently it was posted the day before april fools? that would explain it. A lot of things in there fit the MO of someone trying to specifically disappoint people. I obviously don't speak the language at all.What the fuck are these subtitles? He's not talking about the anime. At all. There is not a single topic he's talking about that's reflected in the subtitles, and vice-versa.
Who did that? Why?
Oh no, you shouldn't apologize. I'm more upset that someone made that, to mislead people into a narrative, and then that narrative spreads without any basis even years after the "joke", if that was one, is over. It's not your fault for being tricked by something that's made to trick people!ok apparently it was posted the day before april fools? that would explain it. A lot of things in there fit the MO of someone trying to specifically disappoint people. I obviously don't speak the language at all.
Sorry to spread dumb stuff like that.
I think the most blatant lie is that one where he doesn't know shit about the songs he puts in and just chooses randomlyOh no, you shouldn't apologize. I'm more upset that someone made that, to mislead people into a narrative, and then that narrative spreads without any basis even years after the "joke", if that was one, is over. It's not your fault for being tricked by something that's made to trick people!
There's already a lot of dubious things being repeated over and over about Araki's work without a semblance of proof, I really don't like the fact that someone decided to throw more oil into the fire.
They also say this guy that writes an A3 sheet for every single character's history forgets powers and plot points so.lol, so wait, people think araki is a fake music boy? he's just pretending for the attention?
that's the funniest thing i've heard honestly.
Giorno's "give life to a human being" power was clearly intended to reflect his connection to DIO, it's not a random thing that came out of nowhere. dunno how someone would think that or any of the other examples of specific abilities being sidelined was just a careless thing one could misplace, like a character in an RPG having a generic fireball spell that suddenly disappears.They also say this guy that writes an A3 sheet for every single character's history forgets powers and plot points so.
But i think someone said he chooses songs only for the name and not the lyrics when several stands/characters are just perfect fits >_>
Only Josuke is the JoJo here. Their full-on names have to somehow translate to having two "Jo" sounds withinHe's put so many jojos in a single part, also the name, it really feels like itll end there. It's all about breaking a family curse, last time that happened we got SO
Well, by that criteria we boil them down to three(2 and a half lmao):Only Josuke is the JoJo here. Their full-on names have to somehow translate to having two "Jo" sounds within
It's still great that the family tree lists both Joseph and Suzie Q. without any hinting at any major changes in the SBRverse continuity.Well, by that criteria we boil them down to three(2 and a half lmao):
Josefumi Kujo, Josuke(jo) higashikata and Johnny Joestar(appeared enough to count imo).
*friendly reminder that Joseph Joestar is around 87 years old and may or may not be a thing
I thought people had figured out that Joseph would be about.... 89 years old....It's still great that the family tree lists both Joseph and Suzie Q. without any hinting at any major changes in the SBRverse continuity.
SBR Joseph probably used the spin to shoot rock human Kars into space.
Yeah, about the same age as he would be in part 6. The family tree from early part 8 lists him as still marrying Suzie and having Holly.I thought people had figured out that Joseph would be about.... 89 years old....
Yeah, about the same age as he would be in part 6. The family tree from early part 8 lists him as still marrying Suzie and having Holly.
I'm still not convinced that Satoru Akefu is Joseph just because they have similar ages.