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SpaceCrystal

Banned
Apr 1, 2019
7,714
What a farce from minute one, long before this reached the court and continued by the absolute clown-show of court-case handling. This was the obvious conclusion, save for the jury being in any way impartial and looking past what the judge was feeding them. All Counts?!?! Are you for real?!?

My biggest concern now is that Kenosha will riot (understandably) and will embolden/reaffirm the ideas that the Right won this case on. I don't fault anyone for being reactionary, and there absolutely needs to be repercussions and public discourse about this for years to come, but "burning it down" will just result in more "justified" deaths.

Canada is not much better (any better?) but y'all need to fix your shit America.

I might have to prepare to move to another country at this point. I'll claim asylum or relinquish my U.S. Citizenship if I have to. Shit.
 

Sulik2

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,168
What was the crime the prosecutors should have actually gone with? Orchestrating a situation that you hope to escalate into violence and bringing a weapon to it isn't legally defined murder I dont think. But it is definitely something bad. That video of him a couple of weeks before saying he want to shoot protestors proves he hoped to have a chance to shoot people.
 
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Nov 8, 2017
6,337
Stockholm, Sweden
I was pretty shook the first time i saw someone open carrying an assault rifle in the us when i was there on vacation, and it sure as fuck did not make me feel safer.

I was like "oh, that person could kill everyone in this restaurant in seconds, cool beans"

Why would this ever necessary at a donut shop... It's only just to make themselves feel like a badass. It's so pathetic.

That have to defend themselves against the cholesterol.
 
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Zombegoast

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,255
The US judicial system is stupid. You can't judge for yourself and are given evidence the defendant and prosecutors use
 

Isilia

Member
Mar 11, 2019
5,849
US: PA
Is Gaetz's face frozen like Tucker's face?

I'm still seething here. And worried. I have no idea how things are going to go from here.
 

Deckerd

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
141
What was the crime the prosecutors should have actually gone with? Orchestrating a situation that you hope to escalate into violence and bringing a weapon to it isn't legally defined murder I dont think. But it is definitely something bad. That video of him a couple of weeks before saying he want to shoot protestors proves he hoped to have a chance to shoot people.

In Canada we just call this murder.
 

darz1

Member
Dec 18, 2017
7,116
Honest question, why is everyone so hung up on the fact Rittenhouse crossed state lines?
Because he went out of his way to place himself in that situation. He was not a local just defending his property. Right wing extremists have created a practice of bringing and encouraging out of state followers to come armed to intimidate, antagonise and provoke protesters. Granted even if he was a local he would still have been there to intimidate protesters and should still be found guilty, but being from another state adds an extra level of premeditation to his actions.

it's harder to believe someone was just defending themselves when they had to go through such lengths for it to even be possible for this to occur.
 
Nov 8, 2017
6,337
Stockholm, Sweden
Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire (JD infused with cinnamon)

That sounds great, i love cinnamon, i'm gonna mix a pinch in the gt and see if it works.

I just went straight to vodka.

vodka-trago.gif
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,148
Because he went out of his way to place himself in that situation. He was not a local just defending his property. Right wing extremists have created a practice of bringing and encouraging out of state followers to come armed to intimidate, antagonise and provoke protesters. Granted even if he was a local he would still have been there to intimidate protesters and should still be found guilty, but being from another state adds an extra level of premeditation to his actions.

it's harder to believe someone was just defending themselves when they had to go through such lengths for it to even be possible for this to occur.
Such lengths? Google Maps says it's a 30 minute drive. That's next door in the Midwest.
 
Nov 1, 2017
1,844
The system is broken. Take a look at the thread we have on here with the white kid that raped 4 underage girls and got off on all charges. I don't blame people one bit for having that attitude. We can't fix this with voting alone.
To be fair, judges offering no further jail time in exchange for a guilty plea happens SO they can avoid a Kyle Rittenhouse situation where they miraculously get acquitted by the jury and don't get convicted with anything at all ontop of no more jail time. At this point I would have preferred that to happen to Rittenhouse vs them getting absolutely what they wanted, there would be at least some semblance of justice.
 
Nov 8, 2017
6,337
Stockholm, Sweden
Ha. Is that gif looped or real?

It's real and the full clip shows the full extent of her madness, you could fuel a jet with that drink.



I would totally drink that.



Come to Australia, this shit would never happen in Australia. Shootings are very rare and we take gun violence very serious here.

Mad props to you Aussies, you saw the misery of the port arthur massacre and actually successfully implemented new strict gun laws, unlike a certain country that just seems to be ok with the occasional massacre.
 
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wakuboys

Banned
Jun 27, 2019
75
Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but 30% of 200 judges not being white men is pretty damned good, especially for Republicans, isn't it?
I don't know where she got her numbers from, but she did say "not white men" and if the remaining 30% were simply white women it would be quite a bit worse. According to this MSC article Trump's judicial appointments worsened racial diversity in the federal courts 37/234 or 15% of Trump's federal court appointees were PoC.
 

Thordinson

Banned
Aug 1, 2018
18,129

The justice system in this country is designed to protect capital and white people. This case isn't an aberration. This is how the justice system works in this country for white people while BIPOC are throwing into prisons at disproportionate rates so the prison industrial complex can profit off their slave labor and massive fines after their incarceration.

This isn't new. The justice system is a joke and always has been.
 

boxter432

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
9,382
Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but 30% of 200 judges not being white men is pretty damned good, especially for Republicans, isn't it?
no its not. white males are 30% of the total population, so getting 70% of a very powerful role is shit. its not unexpected for republicans, but still terrible. though most likely 90% of whoever they appoint suck big time no matter what.
 

Raxus

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,602
Terrible prosecution and somehow an even worse judge. This shit will be talked about for ages.
 

AndrewDean84

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,595
Fontana, California
The system failed and no one will do anything to challenge it. The people will just accept the dog shit shoved in their mouth.

America is broken and nothing will ever, ever change.
 

Polyh3dron

Prophet of Regret
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,860
How long do you think that so-called "fandom" of his is going to last? Five or six months? A year, maybe?

This country still has a lot of sane people in a large population more so than right-wing nutjobs do. Republicans couldn't care less about anyone but themselves.
til the day he dies and then after that.
 

TAJ

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
12,446
I was pretty shook the first time i saw someone open carrying an assault rifle in the us when i was there on vacation, and it sure as fuck did not make me feel safer.

I was like "oh, that person could kill everyone in this restaurant in seconds, cool beans"

I would just get up and leave. I was a kid living in San Diego when the San Ysidro massacre happened and that shit scarred me for life.
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,686
i mean he was???

He was running to the police down that road. The third guy he shot literally videotaped talking to him while he was running and he said he was running to go to the police before the second shootings. He got fell and got attacked when running to them.

I wonder what percentage of people in this thread actually watched any of the videos

Thank you for the correction. Previously I'd only read a written account. Having now watched video footage, allow me to make my question more accurate:
If you're involved in an accidental shooting, the sane thing to do - if you want to maintain your innocence in front of a crowd of strangers, is to first of all disarm, then clearly communicate to those around you what just took place, emphasizing the fact that you are no longer a threat, and then get yourself slowly escorted in the direction of the nearest law enforcement.

Alternatively, after disarming, you can stay in the vicinity of the victim and assume a surrendered position where it is perfectly clear you are not a threat and wait for law enforcement to arrive, communicating what just happened in the mean time as necessary.

What you do not do, under any circumstances, is flee the scene, fully armed, and continue running past crowds of frightened people holding your rifle in front of you like a lunatic.
And when those frightened crowds correctly perceive you as a threat, you do not, under any circumstance, escalate the situation further.

So why the fuck did Rittenhouse do the latter?
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,201
I don't want this to come across as bullshit. I seriously feel for black and brown people in this country, I know I have an immense amount of privilege that I don't give enough attention to. Have a 22 month old son and realizing how different his life would be just because the color of his skin is a wake up call. I don't see how America is 'fixed' at this point, I really don't. We are just gonna sit here and slow walk towards the fall of America aren't we?

I don't see a path forward.
 

Korigama

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,589
Expected he would walk going by that farce of a trial, but being greeted with news of that bullshit still pissed me off nonetheless.