Exactly. That's their plan.
Genius from a GOP perspective.
I used to think there was a high amount of hyperbole here but not any more.
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Justice Clarence Thomas Wants SCOTUS to 'Correct the Error' of Legal Gay Marriage
- Thread starter Coyote Starrk
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Exactly. That's their plan.
Genius from a GOP perspective.
I used to think there was a high amount of hyperbole here but not any more.
If they do go after gay marriage, that would completely nullify my marriage to my husband? What about insurance and tax stuff related to being marriage too?
It would depend on the state you reside. I'm not sure how it would work, honestly.
But the religious assholes will be thrilled.
Religion is a fucking bane on our country and is the root of so much ignorant intolerance
I believe it would depend on the state too , but insurance and taxes are Federal level right?
Given that his wife is a nutbar, I am pretty sure their conversations are pretty crazy shit.
It would be if it weren't a nuclear bomb that we were warned about months prior, it far to big to be buried
I mean, with the hearings getting renewed for a second season, I'm not sure how (in a sane world) the 14th Amendment getting invalidated by three judges installed by a president who staged a coup on his own government and a fourth judge who's married to one of the architects of said coup is an effective smokescreen. Then again, we don't live in a sane world and gas is still above $4 where I live.
No, June is always a big ruling month because it's the end of the term for the court.
It wouldn't surprise me if taking down Obergefell would remove all insurance and tax benefits even if you live in a blue state. I'd like someone more knowledgeable to chime in though.
I *think* it is Windsor, the case before Obergefell, which overturned the government discriminating at the federal level. That means immigration, federal income tax, ACA rules, etc.
Obergefell prevented individual states from refusing to recognize marriage equality. I notice Windsor isn't being mentioned much as a target because, presumably, it can't be argued as a state's rights issue.
I am sure though, if republicans take control of the federal government they will immediately push through what is effectively Super DOMA, to enshrine federal/national persecution of LGBTQ persons.
Coon for short. It was we call a self hating/destructing black person who actively destroys our progression
The hypocrisy of these motherfuckers is astounding. Value life, yet refuse to pass gun control laws. Fuck all these conservatives sickos. A fascist death cult, they are.
They did. That's why we're in this mess in the first place.
I'm not sure if I should call it irony or what, that Clarence Thomas doesn't seem to understand--or simply somehow doesn't care-- that the people he most caters to with these sorts of opinions, if they had their way, would also "correct the error" of him and anyone else of his skin color being able to hold the position he currently has. It's like the ultimate living example of the "first they came for..." fascism poem happening right before our eyes.
Eh, as a white man I'm like one of the 20% of the reasonable ones. Now white women and Hispanic women might be able to shift and make a big difference in swing states.
Fucking vile. I just have no more words left.
On a side note: can the US just change their fucking name already? 'United' my ass. Never have been, just 50 different countries pretending to be one.
On a side note: can the US just change their fucking name already? 'United' my ass. Never have been, just 50 different countries pretending to be one.
Lobby your government to accept LGBT refugees from the US. They do not want us to exist.
That would have just turned this into a 5-4. Trump would have needed to lose to Clinton to prevent Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
fucker trying to erase my marriage?! i don't give a shit what happens to him i just hope he's gone soon
They will push for everything they want unless we do something about the court. That's it. This was endgame. With the court they can do anything. It's ridiculous.
I actually agree with you fully. I don't think it's packing the court that will get resolved but I have a feeling term limits will get set. Something has to give and if it isn't accomplished legally it's going to resolved some other way.
Correct me if I'm wrong… but should SCOTUS justices not opine on cases that might be before them?
By stating that gay marriage was a mistake, shouldn't Thomas recuse himself because he has already stated how he would vote without hearing any arguments?
By stating that gay marriage was a mistake, shouldn't Thomas recuse himself because he has already stated how he would vote without hearing any arguments?
This brings a matter into sharp focus: no rights are true rights until they are actual concrete laws. The supreme court allowing progress is just step 1.
And I would say rights need to be constitutional amendments before we can rest.
And I would say rights need to be constitutional amendments before we can rest.
"Civility" will get us fucking no where, and escalation will be necessary. This shit is well beyond a "vote" problem. (but also, for the love of God still vote regardless)
Thomas' wife was planning to overthrow the government and he voted in an attempt to hide her emails from scrutiny.
The Founding Fathers could have never imagined scenarios like this where a Supreme Court Justice is corrupt and now beholden to no one. They might as well be kings at this point.
So at what point can I flee the US to another country like Canada or in Europe and claim amnesty from persecution?
Not to be a doomer about this - but yes. From the moment RBG died this was going to happen.
Have to remember gay marriage impacts a smaller fraction of the population than abortion rights. Nullifying those rights will happen, there will be protests. Republicans will hide behind the cover of "states rights".
I'm happy not to be in America. Disgusting women today have less rights than their mother or grandmother. Disgusting after the recent fight for gay marriage, back to the drawing board.
Pressure the political left. Organise, fund act blue. Or leave if you can. Awful. Awful situation.
Have to remember gay marriage impacts a smaller fraction of the population than abortion rights. Nullifying those rights will happen, there will be protests. Republicans will hide behind the cover of "states rights".
I'm happy not to be in America. Disgusting women today have less rights than their mother or grandmother. Disgusting after the recent fight for gay marriage, back to the drawing board.
Pressure the political left. Organise, fund act blue. Or leave if you can. Awful. Awful situation.
I feel like Clarence Thomas is the most unqualified person ever. He's just a contrarian troll. Even ACB has more weight in her opinions than this sex pest.
Of course he's married to an insurrectionist.
Of course he's married to an insurrectionist.
RBG wouldn't have changed anything. Kennedy retiring to give Trump his pick cemented this outcome. He was the occasional swing vote on abortion and gay rights. Even wrote Obergeffel and Lawrence. Considering Robert's scathing dissent in Obergefell, I'm surprised they haven't gotten around to stripping gay rights already.
Man this SC really wants this country to sink lower.
I'm not looking foreword to these next few decades.
I'm not looking foreword to these next few decades.
So if they ban contraception, so when all of the adoption agencies get full, what's our countries next plan for this?
Are they going to force the mother to come to terms and force them to raise the child? I'm not understanding the end game of reversing the last 70 + years of human rights back unless republicans really want a Civil War 2 so they can use their "toys" and ppl killing each other?
If so, then let me get my out of the country visa started. I'll fight politics, but I'm not fighting with guns and mass violence.
Are they going to force the mother to come to terms and force them to raise the child? I'm not understanding the end game of reversing the last 70 + years of human rights back unless republicans really want a Civil War 2 so they can use their "toys" and ppl killing each other?
If so, then let me get my out of the country visa started. I'll fight politics, but I'm not fighting with guns and mass violence.