Get out of here you nosy little pervert before I slap you silly!Kevin is wasting these traps on those buffoons when he should using them on Uncle Frank.
Despite all the violence, my favorite part might actually be when Catherine O'Hara slaps Tim Curry and he starts getting teary-eyed.
It's supposed to be a live action cartoon. They just took Tom and Jerry antics and put people in the roles.So these guys get bricks in the face from about 10 stories high, electrocuted, burned, smashed, even fall off a building with not so much as a scratch...
The true question here isn't Kevin's decent into madness, but what failed Super Soldier program were these guys part of?!?
Kevin could've shot Marv point blank in the chest, and Harry would've kicked him in the head and said 'Cmon get up already!'
So these guys get bricks in the face from about 10 stories high, electrocuted, burned, smashed, even fall off a building with not so much as a scratch...
The true question here isn't Kevin's decent into madness, but what failed Super Soldier program were these guys part of?!?
Kevin could've shot Marv point blank in the chest, and Harry would've kicked him in the head and said 'Cmon get up already!'
It's my favorite part of the movie. I can buy all these crazy coincidences, near death experiences, a kid getting a suite at the plaza hotel, etc. but the first time I saw Joe Pesci do a handstand on a toilet my eyes popped out.
I laughed out loud. I'm glad this was the first reply.
The best is when Marv is screaming and in total pain it just cuts to Kevin calmly and emotionless-cranking up the voltage.The electricity trap will never not be hilarious, could watch all day and laugh each time.
Just a prank, bro.
HA2 is worth it entirely for that brick scene. It's genius in an otherwise heartless sequel.
It's a live action cartoon, they'd be dead, kevin is a sociopath, other points made a million times.
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Oh boy, here we go. Forgive me Professor Beef I held off as long as I could. It is time to bring back The Rant™.
Kevin McAllister is a rich, white, suburban American kid whose stupid family is obscenely wealthy. Not just his immediate family, but his extended family as well. Not only is the McAllister dynasty wealthy enough to support a Parisian vacation over the holidays with 11 horrible children, but the other McAllister terror cell they are visiting is rich enough to be kicking it back in Paris while their entire multifloor Manhattan townhouse undergoes extensive renovations. This is a family whose wealth knows no measure or limit. The financial security Kevin enjoys as an upper class young boy cannot be overstated. Kevin McAllister is a boy with no concept whatsoever of want besides superficial desires like cheese pizza.
In Home Alone 2, Kevin finds himself lost in Manhattan with his father's credit card. Kevin has unlimited money to do whatever he wants. So he does. He goes to The Plaza Hotel, one of the most luxurious hotels in the city, and tricks the staff in to giving him a room. While we are meant to be impressed with Kevin's antics, this is only the beginning of a long series of humiliations he exerts over the service workers at this hotel as Kevin lords over them all with his generational wealth.
While Home Alone 1 has Kevin defending himself from would be home invaders in a life threatening situation, the service staff at The Plaza poses no such threat to him. They are not invading his space, he is invading theirs. Every single one of them are there because it's their job to be. They are doing their jobs - over the holidays no less - as Kevin manipulates them to fulfill his luxurious whims. We are meant to find it hilarious how he degrades and debases them. He doesn't tip them, he subjects them to repeated embarrassment, and ultimately makes them afraid for their lives as he simulates a mass shooting. We saw a glimpse of this in Home Alone 1 with the pizza delivery boy, but in Home Alone 2, Kevin's treatment of the wage staff at this hotel is inhumane. What we see here is that upper class Kevin exerting unearned dominance over the working class with extreme prejudice.
There is not a single hotel employee that has done anything to earn Kevin's abuse beyond do their jobs. Yet he makes them afraid they will be murdered if they dare step out of line. This is shameful.
However, where the movie is really beyond the pale is in regards to Kevin's relationship with "the pigeon lady." This homeless woman isn't even given the dignity of a name in this film. At first, Kevin perceives her with fear and disgust. He attempts to run from her but fumbles and becomes stuck. She helps him and Kevin momentarily shows a glimmer of humanity as he realizes it was wrong to be afraid of her. This moment of empathy is brief however as Kevin's selfishness and sociopathy does not allow for any actual understanding of anyone below his social class.
This woman explains that she wasn't always homeless. She once had a home and a man she loved very much but it ended badly. This incident gave her PTSD and now she is distrustful of others and is unable to function in society. She calmly and bravely opens up to Kevin about her past trauma and her subsequent dehumanization in an uncaring society that forsakes the mentally ill. And do you know how Kevin responds? He says yeah, he gets it, because he's the youngest in his disgusting family. He then tells her to get over it and that only by opening herself up to love again will she ever not be a homeless lady covered in bird shit again. Straight up, to her vulnerable face, Kevin tells a homeless woman that she is responsible for her own prolonged destitution and that if she wants people to treat her better she needs to get over her mental illness. Kevin then goes home to his luxury hotel where he has every whim of his indulged by service workers he humiliates.
Seriously, he has unlimited money. He couldn't have gotten her a place to stay? Or invited her to stay with him? He couldn't share his unlimited food with her? He didn't even offer to let her take a shower. He descends from his nearly-llteral ivory tower, blames a shit covered mentally ill homeless woman who suffers nonstop dehumanization that she needs to get over her PTSD, and at the end of a movie he gives her a fucking bird ornament to show her how much he cares about her. How does he sleep at night in his king size bed at The Plaza Hotel knowing that someone who opened up to him about her inescapable poverty and trauma is sleeping on the street in the cold? What is wrong with this monster?
Home Alone 2 is a perverse Christmas Carol. It is the story of a spoiled rich young boy whose time with the working class and the poor motivates him to torment or abandon them. Even his supposedly virtuous gesture of preventing the toy store robbery costs him nothing. It's not his money. It's not his donation. Kevin does nothing except take a tour of what it's like to be less fortunate than him and live it up in a Trump Hotel.
The Wet Bandits were right to want to kill Kevin and I always hope they catch him. 😡
Where is she even supposed to put that bird ornament?? She doesn't have a Christmas tree. She is homeless. She is surrounded at all times by actual, living birds. What does she want a fake one for?? Fuck you Kevin.
LMAO! Now I have to go watch the movie again.
Exactly this. Its like a live action take of the Wylie coyote and the roadrunner. Except his traps are not made by ACME and thus work all the time.It's supposed to be cartoonish and like the Looney Tunes. If we want to get realistic and serious, they are going to straight up murder him if they catch him. Kevin is in his right to fuck them up.
when you see him with a literal bow and arror, running from stalking zone to stalking zone waiting for his prey to engage his traps, yeah....
Definitely Batman levels of "actually worse than killing you as I severely brain damage you and destroy your body, but I kept my honor code!"
This isn't true. Tim Curry's character suspects Kevin from the very beginning and treats him as a criminal (he isn't a criminal, he's a child using his father's credit card). He then pretends to be housekeeping (he's not, he's concierge) and uses a key when he thinks no one is there to enter Kevin's (or Mr. McAllister's, as far as Tim Curry's character knows) room and start snooping around. He then accesses the financial records (!) of the hotel (he doesn't own the hotel, remember-- he is concierge) finds out Kevin's card has been reported stolen (so his parents can find him, not because he's a criminal) and when Kevin pleads for help after Harry and Marv begin chasing him, instead of listening Tim Curry threatens Kevin with the police. He goes way beyond what is his job. Entering rooms while unattended is not his job (the police, if they have a valid reason to evict), accessing financial records isn't his job (concierge), chasing a child into his room isn't his job (again, the police). Chasing someone you suspect to be a thief is grounds for termination in nearly any service-level job.There is not a single hotel employee that has done anything to earn Kevin's abuse beyond do their jobs. Yet he makes them afraid they will be murdered if they dare step out of line. This is shameful.
While Home Alone 1 has Kevin defending himself from would be home invaders in a life threatening situation, the service staff at The Plaza poses no such threat to him. They are not invading his space, he is invading theirs. Every single one of them are there because it's their job to be. They are doing their jobs - over the holidays no less - as Kevin manipulates them to fulfill his luxurious whims.
It absolutely wouldn't in Home Alone 2. He deliberately lures them to his uncle's place that he's rigged with traps.Yeah, just straight up murder attempts. It would probably be justified via self defense though. The two thieves clearly want to kill him.
Home Alone 2 is a viscerally unpleasant movie. The first one is unpleasant too but the second one is just mean.
❤️OP thank you for making this thread, as much as I loved this movies as I kid I had completely forgotten all about them. I'm definitely watching both movies tonight.
I love how he tries to keep his mouth closed so he doesn't start sobbing.I don't remember laughing at this as a kid but watching it recently made me crack up. Tim Curry's great. lol
Indeed, Marv's pitiful protests while Harry keeps inviting more bricks to be thrown kill me.I get that it's slapstick, it's meant to be unrealistic for the sake of comedy, all that stuff but the second movie isn't very fun to watch. Just kind of a meaner retread.... except for the brick scene. Which is hilarious comedic timing.