Lol.
There's a good chance they are working on the sequel. (Obviously)
I loved how the night was actually dark and all you had was your trusty torche to illuminate your path.
I need to get back into it.
Great soundtrack too IMO.
Try making a thread about like, Ion Fury, and 80% of responses will be like "fuck this game" but with this one, a lot of folks on here just kinda seem to want to ignore the elephant in the room. It's weird. Is it because 'it's a good game' and not as easy to boycott as a niche indie thing?
Like, I get it for all the folks out there who don't really follow games discourse, whatever, but this forum is basically games discourse writ large lol
22 posts out of 52 replies (including mine) have brought it up and I don't think there's been a KCD thread where it hasn't been mentioned. Ion Fury had the bigotry in the text or at least in the game assets, while most of the bigotry for this game has been mostly outside of the game with this Daniel Vavra chud so that might explain the disparity in responses. Ion Fury also got praise so I don't think it's people excusing it just because of game quality. There might be some people who just don't care or people who have ignored these developers and don't come into every thread about it.Try making a thread about like, Ion Fury, and 80% of responses will be like "fuck this game" but with this one, a lot of folks on here just kinda seem to want to ignore the elephant in the room. It's weird. Is it because 'it's a good game' and not as easy to boycott as a niche indie thing?
Like, I get it for all the folks out there who don't really follow games discourse, whatever, but this forum is basically games discourse writ large lol
I'm pretty sure theyre being counted into the totalQuite impressive considering it was on GamePass and PSNow for a while and is now on PS Plus.
Try making a thread about like, Ion Fury, and 80% of responses will be like "fuck this game" but with this one, a lot of folks on here just kinda seem to want to ignore the elephant in the room. It's weird. Is it because 'it's a good game' and not as easy to boycott as a niche indie thing?
Like, I get it for all the folks out there who don't really follow games discourse, whatever, but this forum is basically games discourse writ large lol
There's plenty of stuff people enjoy that have assholes involved in its creation process, we even have threads on Kanye's new albums that reach over 30 pages here and that's even from a sole creator, not a studio with close to 200 employees, and that's from someone with a much wider influence than the director of a fairly niche game.People know. They don't care. At this point everyone who comes to these threads knows what went on with the developer of this game and have chosen not to care. That's about what almost every post in this thread is.
I saw the words "sold" so I assumed it wasn't counting those. If it was 'number of players' or something like that then that would be different.Picked up this game cheap a long time ago before I knew about the dev being a massive asshole and I gotta say, it was pretty trash imo. Like the game is aggressively boring for fair periods in the earlier bits and the combat is one of the worst I've dealt with. It kinda felt like Mount and Blade if they wanted to make the combat as unwieldy as possible.
I'm pretty sure theyre being counted into the total
People know. They don't care. At this point everyone who comes to these threads knows what went on with the developer of this game and have chosen not to care. That's about what almost every post in this thread is.
Honestly, what you see in this thread is still better than Dragon Quest threads back when Sugiyama was still alive.Try making a thread about like, Ion Fury, and 80% of responses will be like "fuck this game" but with this one, a lot of folks on here just kinda seem to want to ignore the elephant in the room. It's weird. Is it because 'it's a good game' and not as easy to boycott as a niche indie thing?
Like, I get it for all the folks out there who don't really follow games discourse, whatever, but this forum is basically games discourse writ large lol
Ah, so people who rightfully continue to point at Vavras GamerGate antics are "terminally online" because they "don't like a person or whatever"? Way to dismiss absolutely real dangers.Not everyone is going to join in on the meta commentary every single time just to appease some posters who don't like a person involved or whatever. Not everyone is terminally online and want to engage in every single point of conversation.
This has been commented on for years in every single thread, what even is there to discuss any more
Yeah because this has been commented on in every thread for years, and posts like that say "people don't care" simply because some people are not repeating ad nausem the same thing some posters have expecations of other posters all to do, is exactly what I mean, if you don't engage to appease the opinion they share, you don't care, even if one might share the same opinion. If you bothered to read the rest of the context of what I wrote then you'd understand. You're acting like this is the first KC:D thread to have ever been made.Ah, so people who rightfully continue to point at Vavras GamerGate antics are "terminally online" because they "don't like a person or whatever"? Way to dismiss absolutely real dangers.
Best rpg of last gen, yeah Vavra is an ass but you didn't have the Mafia remake threads constantly filled with endless Vavra reminders because people didn't know he directed the original. It's all theater
Best rpg of last gen, yeah Vavra is an ass but you didn't have the Mafia remake threads constantly filled with endless Vavra reminders because people didn't know he directed the original. It's all theater
This has been commented on for years in every single thread, what even is there to discuss any more
I don't disagree people can't bring up his history, what I think is bullshit behaviour at this point after all these years is that if someone doesn't preface any opinion/thing they say about the game without something like "Vávra is an asshole", then you get posts saying people "don't care".gamergate literally happened & thrived because most corners were either too cowardly to call the sexism & bigotry out, or outright favored it
it's absolutely worthwhile to make sure the stench of that garbage follows this game & its creator everytime, or when the next phase of that shit inevitably happens the non-response will likely be the same
2. Buying this game does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for buying the game or enjoying mundane aspects of the game. Do not attempt to shame them.
I don't disagree people can't bring up his history, what I think is bullshit behaviour at this point after all these years is that if someone doesn't preface any opinion/thing they say about the game without something like "Vávra is an asshole", then you get posts saying people "don't care".
If someone says "I like KC:D but Vávra is an asshole", that's okay, nobody questions, apparently people "care" then. If after all these years they just say "I like KC:D" without prefacing it, now you're questioned, and you get comments like "people don't care".
If that isn't theatrics then I don't know what is, and I think it's bullshit people have this toxic questioning attitude if you don't engage in an opinion the way they want you to
I don't care about bringing him up, I think it's some weak attitude that some posters have expectations of others to preface their own posts with that before they can write their opinion on the game
well i do agree with you, it's i just dislike this performative posting on this forum at times, i don't feel it in myself to justify why I like something by prefacing it so i can appease the opinions of others even if may share the same opinion as them on something. to me it adds nothing, it means nothing, and people hitching onto that if you don't is what specifically annoys the hell out of mei get what you're saying here (and with the kanye example) - people are of course free to engage art from shitty people, and to an extent, supporting said folks while naming the harm they've helped create (as though you should be given a "pass" for your support, because of the acknowledgment) does feel performative
its also a bit pointless as i wanna say the TOS here says not to go after individuals in these threads for such
for my part, i'd only go after those defending the awful shit - like, years back on gaf you'd have chik-fil-a threads with pretty clear homophobes flaunting their support of the mediocre establishment and its polices/beliefs. i don't know that i've seen many in recent years here trying to defend varva thankfully, though he did have a defense force years back
Kingdom Come is a game claiming to be historically accurate while falsely depicting what was an ethnically diverse region of eastern Europe at the time, existing before the concept of "white" identity had metastasized into what it is now. It is an inherently racist white male power fantasy. Not in the traditional VG sense of just being focused on a white male lead who is the hero of the story which is incidentally racist and sexist but instead with what is clearly an intentional whitewashing effort and using subversion of the "hero character" trope as a way to make people take it more seriously than it deserves.22 posts out of 52 replies (including mine) have brought it up and I don't think there's been a KCD thread where it hasn't been mentioned. Ion Fury had the bigotry in the text or at least in the game assets, while most of the bigotry for this game has been mostly outside of the game with this Daniel Vavra chud so that might explain the disparity in responses. Ion Fury also got praise so I don't think it's people excusing it just because of game quality. There might be some people who just don't care or people who have ignored these developers and don't come into every thread about it.
true, there are not nearly enough germans in the gameKingdom Come is a game claiming to be historically accurate while falsely depicting what was an ethnically diverse region of eastern Europe at the time, existing before the concept of "white" identity had metastasized into what it is now. It is an inherently racist white male power fantasy. Not in the traditional VG sense of just being focused on a white male lead who is the hero of the story which is incidentally racist and sexist but instead with what is clearly an intentional whitewashing effort and using subversion of the "hero character" trope as a way to make people take it more seriously than it deserves.
I'm not sure there was anything revealed officially, but there is a reason Embracer bought them and it is not to help start Vávra's political podcast.
For some reasons I thought this was on online game....its actually single player?
Is it still worth playing or better wait for a sequel at this point? I saw it on Playstation Premium.
I'm not sure there was anything revealed officially, but there is a reason Embracer bought them and it is not to help start Vávra's political podcast.
Assholes can be talented too. It is what is is.I still can't believe this motherfucker wrote one of my Top 5 games of all time (Mafia)
I know, I know. Art <-> Artist and all that
Art, media in general and video games in particular are not singular things that exist without context. A game is always linked to those who made it, to the things it depicts, etc. So yes, when you go in to a discussion where a very problematic aspect of the topic is being discussed and you ignore that and just praise the thing itself then that comes off as dismissve of the discussion that is happening around you.The expectation that every poster has to preface any opinion about the game ad nausem with stuff like saying Vávra's an asshole is just theatrics at this point. And when someone doesn't, there are posts like "they don't care". If you don't preface anything you say about the game you get such comments. Nobody says you can't bring up the dev, but some posters acting like if you don't preface that with your own discussion/opinionof the game, then it's like an automatic approval of him. It's pretty toxic