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Icolin

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kotaku.com

Ubisoft Reworked A Famous Holocaust Quote To Promote Watch Dogs: Legion, And Nooope

You know the quote. It has various edits and permutations, but here’s one you’ve probably heard:

You know the quote. It has various edits and permutations, but here's one you've probably heard:

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a communist. Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me. (The original quote is from the poem, "First they came…," by Martin Niemöller.)

One place you might not expect to hear this? A video game press conference. That's more or less what happened yesterday, when Ubisoft debuted the cinematic trailer for Watch Dogs: Legion during its not-E3 event, "Ubisoft Forward." Over footage of a masked man sprinting through near-future London, an unnamed narrator recites a modernized spin on that quote.

First, they came for the foreigners, and I did not speak out, because I was not a foreigner. Then they came for the protestors, and I did not speak out, because I was not a protestor. Then they came for the journalists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a journalist. Then they came for street artists, and I did not speak out, because I am not a street artist. I realized, eventually, they'd come for me. There would be no one left to speak for me.

This should go without saying, but apparently it needs to be said: Don't use the Holocaust to promote a multimillion-dollar media property.
 

Lord Fanny

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It's weird they call it a quote and not a poem to me unless I'm missing something, but yeah. It didn't really register with me at first, but once I thought about it I was like...yeah. I wonder if anyone will try to argue the 'emotional impact' of this warranted the use. Guessing not lol.
 

SageShinigami

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I'm positive this isn't the first time this has been done in a piece of media, so "this should go without saying" isn't quite accurate.
 

Bish_Bosch

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I was really grossed out when I realized what they were doing and glad this is getting called out.
 

Uzupedro

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Honestly it took me a while to remember what it was and where it was from, but when I realized...
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It really wasn't a good choice from them.
 

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We are now two for two of inappropriate Holocaust references in 2020. Its not that hard to stop trying to capitalise on horrors
 

Birdie

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That quote honestly gets changed so much at this point it's a meme.

I've seen folks use a mutation of it on here before ..usually not to promote a game but to mock a ridiculous slippery slope a politician put out.
 

mindsale

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It's a really great poem on the gravestone of someone I regretfully forget. Probably not the best idea to repurpose it to sell your video game. Especially on the heels of an already massive scandal.
 

SimonSimon

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That poem has been beaten into the ground. I can't even be mad about the degree to which it has been misused and abused.
 

Alastor3

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is it really Ubisoft or more like Alberto Mielgo ?
 

SunBroDave

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I mean, I get how you can think is tacky or insensitive, but to be outraged about this because it's being used for "insidious" marketing, I mean... that just doesn't sit right with me. Like, not only is the quote being paraphrased to give an appropriate perspective of the setting of their game, but the paraphrased quote is also super relevant to the modern day political climate.
 

Belthazar90

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It's a poem about oppression (which the game is about) that has been used everywhere so I don't see the problem really.
 

Tengrave

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It's a very very good looking trailer, or short film or whatever they want to call it. Instantly taken out of it once they hit the first "I didn't speak out." I can't believe they picked that.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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This is a very famous thing to do because of the poem which used often in discussions about oppression and the silence of those that let it happen when it doesn't affect them.

Maybe this author isn't too familiar and feels they have a point. I don't feel they do. People have used this poem in more laughably stupid and careless ways prior.
 
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After TLOU2 being compared to Schindler's List and that comparison being viscously defended, wouldn't be surprised if more of this happens.
 

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It's certainly tacky to see in a commercial video game, but that well known poem is often used in any sort of discussion about fascist, authoritarian, or totalitarian regimes, not just Nazi Germany/the Holocaust.

Pretty sure people here have used it regarding Trump and the Muslim Ban, border camps, etc.

Edit: And a lot more, besides:


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No wonder Ubisoft wants to keep their games apolitical, because when they get political this is the result.
 

Gigglepoo

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yeah, not defending Ubisoft but they aren't the first ones. Trying to remember what but I do remember something using it.

It was used in the last episode of Game of Thrones

Tyrion gave a "first she came after the slavers" speech to Jon Snow in which he argued they should have seen her turn coming because she had killed slavers in the past. Yeah.[/spoilers]
 

Lowrys

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I mean, I get how you can think is tacky or insensitive, but to be outraged about this because it's being used for "insidious" marketing, I mean... that just doesn't sit right with me. Like, not only is the quote being paraphrased to give an appropriate perspective of the setting of their game, but the paraphrased quote is also super relevant to the modern day political climate.
Agreed. This text has been used and paraphrased many times over the years, sometimes badly, sometimes well. The game is about an oppressive regime, as I understand it, so it's not totally ridiculous. I don't think it means Ubisoft is drawing Holocaust parallels, but I can see how some might see it as inappropriate.
 

Majora85

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This poem has been used about a billion times over the years when talking about oppressive regimes, I'm struggling to get worked up over it being used to advertise a videogame that features an oppressive regime too.
 

Dyle

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Name a more iconic duo than Ubisoft games and tasteless messaging
 

R2RD

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I mean, I get how you can think is tacky or insensitive, but to be outraged about this because it's being used for "insidious" marketing, I mean... that just doesn't sit right with me. Like, not only is the quote being paraphrased to give an appropriate perspective of the setting of their game, but the paraphrased quote is also super relevant to the modern day political climate.
it is relevant, sadly Ubisoft doesn't make political games and that's why I don't like them using it for a trailer.
 

Watchtower

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It's hard for me to find it offensive because it's an extremely well-known poem and has been used and abused and exploited to hell and back and I have seen far worse and far more audacious uses of it.

Instead I find it incredibly hilarious that "apolitical" Ubisoft made a game explicitly set in post-Brexit UK and is using a variation of the poem that even a teenager could apply easily to post-Brexit UK. So deep, much wow.
 

Cyberclops

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It definitely seems like the studio that made the trailer was given a bit too much creative control to make whatever they like. The overall tone is off from how Ubisoft's been marketing this game.

That being said, they should know better by now.