Having watched a few let's plays and other videos, it's hard to disagree. The trend of characters talking more and more about everything they do is starting to be really tiring.
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Kotaku UK: Shut The Hell Up, Deacon
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Having actually played the game it's hilarious when he goes off on the radio and it happens infrequently enough on kills that it's whatever
You should try it Q
No way Kotaku. Cannot agree with this at all.
Deacons rambling is the best.
"NO FUCK YOU COPELAND."
Deacons rambling is the best.
"NO FUCK YOU COPELAND."
What a shitty article. Deacon is lonely. He lost his wife and Boozer got hurt. And he is full with anger. And it's more immersive that he talks and shows his expressions.
Protagonists who really never talk are the issue.
Protagonists who really never talk are the issue.
It's legit one of the worst parts of the game. It doesn't help that a lot of the line delivery is terrible. Skipping the shitty truther radio sections is a real hard choice to make. You either hear the shitty radio or Deacon randomly yelling "NOT TODAY COPELAND, I'M HAVING TOO GOOD A DAY FOR YOU TO RUIN IT WITH YOUR BULLSHIT" in one of the worst line deliveries I've ever heard in a videogame.
Him talking to himself is what makes the character for me. I relate to it a LOT. That's exactly how I would be and sometimes am, especially when I'm stressed. I just process stuff by saying my thoughts out loud when I'm alone. It really helped make Deacon a more realistic character for me personally. It also helps with characterizing him as a bit unstable which IMO works in the game's favour.
I'm not surprised if I'm in the minority with this, but I liked the mumbling in this one.
I'm not surprised if I'm in the minority with this, but I liked the mumbling in this one.
"I want to know your name because I want to know who I'm killing!" Deacon to Rippers
His character is unhinged in combat.
I actually like it and getting a little disappointed when he doesn't say something after a radio transmission.
Shut the hell up, Kotaku UK.
Incidentally, in a world were humanity is nearly extinct and one spends a lot of time alone, it's legitimately normal to start talking to oneself.
Incidentally, in a world were humanity is nearly extinct and one spends a lot of time alone, it's legitimately normal to start talking to oneself.
There's a weird disconnect between Deacon in the story segments and during gameplay. In cutscenes he's kind of an asshole, during gameplay he comes off as a straight up psychopath.
That moment when Bubsy of all things has the solution to the problem.
Just have an option slider that lets you decide how much the character talks.
(I'm all for characters talking more, Silent Characters only really work if it's a custom character or a Pair of Jeans character that you are supposed to put yourself into.)
Just have an option slider that lets you decide how much the character talks.
(I'm all for characters talking more, Silent Characters only really work if it's a custom character or a Pair of Jeans character that you are supposed to put yourself into.)
His rants are excellent. He's really traumatized from the shit that's gone down, so he talks to himself a lot, which makes sense. It's also great when taking down a ripper camp and Deacon starts yelling how they're all going to die.
It's actually really refreshing to have a character like Deacon whose so completely lost it in many ways.
It adds to the enjoyment.
Traumatized and unstable man out in a post-apocalyptic world fighting to survive every day while coping with the loss of his wife speaks to himself. Sounds like the writer doesn't like Deacon's character and is nitpicking.
Didn't play the game or..?
Agreed. It isn't as if he keeps regurgitating the same lines. Bend did a good job at having a variety of situational commentary. The VA was incredible and his dialogue added to whatever scenario you found yourself in, especially when your only point of human contact is typically in brief conversations over a radio.
I highly disagree.
I actually love he talks a lot, in good & hilarious way.
Props to Sam Witwer for great job.
I actually love he talks a lot, in good & hilarious way.
Props to Sam Witwer for great job.
I don't have the game but I heard this a few times. It would be interesting if Deacon really has those issues.
You see some of it seep through in the cutscenes as well. But he's obviously not going to show this side to his acquaintances.
They aren't saying him talking to himself is bad, but that he does it too much. So much so that it interrupts gameplay and becomes monotonous and less impactful. Maybe read the full context before claiming its an entirely shit article.
Isn't this a trend in all of media tho ? Like there always has to be funny banter..a quick jab at someone..anything to take tension out of a moment because..no no we can't do that...why not joke and laugh it off to show how much of a complete badass the protag/character is ? I expect the next big movie to have a scene with all odds stacked against the protag and him/her calmly quoting D.Va "Is this EZ mode ?" ...and I will burn down the cinema ( no I wont).
But then how would I bitch about a valid criticism of a game I like?!
Because Days Gone largely received middling reviews and as a result a certain subset of people who really enjoy it feel like every criticism of it is a personal attack against them.
It's less that he does it more that he does it far far too much. It also doesn't reveal much beyond "he likes killing things."
Depends of the game, I dislike it in games like Tomb Raider (glad Shadow let's you turn it down a bit) but like it in games like this one.
Yeah I get that I Am Legend vibe from this game.
I need to get my hands on the game to know what they are talking about. But it just seems like a weird take about a game that is seemingly divisive already.
100%
You might not like his personality, but at least he has one. And gamers should know best the kind of shit that comes out of people's mouths when in "combat".
I was next to a horde when Radio Free Oregon popped up and after it had played Deacon just yells about it LOUDLY.
Yeah perfect timing Deacon to yell loudly what an idiot Copeland is.
Yeah perfect timing Deacon to yell loudly what an idiot Copeland is.
I can't stand characters in games that talk a lot. Claptrap in Borderlands comes to mind as the worst case of yappy annoyance. Constant worthless dialogue like they think our attention spans are so short that we need constant stimuli. It is true we have no attention span but it doesn't mean we want to listen to incessant rambling.
Not really. There's some story segments that show that he's really holding himself back when he's with other people. Boozer calls out on how Deacon closes himself off to other people as he internalises his own grief in a way that he doesn't want to share with other people.
It's not elegant, but the story does have moments to explain why Deacon - when he's alone and Deacon - when he's with other people - act differently.
I'd say there's a big difference between Aloy and Deacon. Aloy does a lot of observation commentary where as Deacon just sort of rambles in response to things in a pretty crazy way (most of the time).
Between the two, Deacon is personally far more enjoyable since it's more unique and not really a, "let me narrate what's on screen" type of deal.