I have read and none could provide any examples of other publishers that can rival Sony's output in those 3 regions... so...?
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Layden: WWS's structure is the only one that delivers AAA-content across the 3 regions (US/EU/JPN)
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I have read and none could provide any examples of other publishers that can rival Sony's output in those 3 regions... so...?
Don't agree. TLG definitely looks like a AAA scale project.
If we're only talking about budgets, then I sincerely doubt that TLG cost anywhere close to something like Uncharted 4.
You guys are so dramatic. The dude is just saying they have a diverse studio portfolio and he's seemingly happy about being able to have studios in the regions he mentioned, and you are out here like "arrogant sony". God.
The AAA and such ranking terminology has always confused the heck out of me. What falls under AAA, AA, A?
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It doesn't have to be "anywhere close" to Uncharted 4 to be considered AAA. If let's say Uncharted 4 has a budget of 200 million $, then it doesn't mean a game must be around 200 million $ to be considered AAA.
I do agree TLG isn't AAA though.
I feel like half this thread could have been avoided if he didn't claim they were the only one.
So lets agree that sony WWS are ONE of the few capable of deliver AAA content in 3 regions
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At least, I can say with confidence, that Sony makes some of the very best games in the industry, across all of those regions.
They remind me of Eddie Brock Jr in Spider-Man 3 going to church to pray for God to kill Peter Parker.
lol you end your post with God and accuse me of being dramatic. what?
Bethesda? What am I missing here...?
Square Enix, fair enough.
i like the playstation but i really hate layden. To me he is a very arrogant person. He reminded me of the old playstation 3 days. fuck that. even if he is an great executive ( or not ) , just keep him behind the scene. Don't make him the public image of the brand.
Jack was much a better person and down to earth guy. same with that tall British guy ( what his name ? Phill ? ) or even Yoshida. bring a friendly face to crowd. Not someone who is smug and talk like he is full of him self ( he probably isn't , but his personality sure is )
With that being said, wtf is he smoking ? Nintendo games are a success in all region as well. am i missing something? or was he responding to the MS acquiring the 5 studios and he wanted to defend Sony
Jack was much a better person and down to earth guy. same with that tall British guy ( what his name ? Phill ? ) or even Yoshida. bring a friendly face to crowd. Not someone who is smug and talk like he is full of him self ( he probably isn't , but his personality sure is )
With that being said, wtf is he smoking ? Nintendo games are a success in all region as well. am i missing something? or was he responding to the MS acquiring the 5 studios and he wanted to defend Sony
I wish people would just stop using the term AAA altogether, when there's no agreed upon way to quantify it. If it means different things to different people, then it means nothing at all.
At the very least, Arkane Lyon and Machine Games for Europe, Tango Gameworks for Japan.
Sony have earned that title (back) this generation. Their 'who would play these old games' stance, the whole cross-play thing, the way they handled PS2 games on PS4...
You're right, I'm probably just being overly harsh. That said, Sony's artsy-fartsy E3 presentation this year did remind me of the our-shit-doesn't-stink Sony of 13 years ago, where they went all in on proprietary technology for the future of games, and outside of Blu-Ray failed pretty badly.
Make a point? Lol
What about Bethesda?
Tango Gameworks - Japan
Arkane Lyon and MachineGames - Europe
Id software, Arkane Austin, BGS - America
But that's exactly what they're doing? they're probably the one doing it the most in the entire industry. Shuhei mentioned that in a statement where most of their games don't recoup their cost but they are fine with it because it diversity their lineup. Look at their 2017 games (which were something like +20 titles) and tell me how many of these became successful and how many were clearly going to be niche/fail.
We don't know their expectations for the game. Not showing at E3 doesn't mean they had big expectations for the game. If anything it shows the game had low expectations to begin with since they were treating it as a smaller title and yet it failed to meet it. And of course E3 isn't the only place to show your game. They did show the game at TGS and PSX.
I don't see a reason for that since Mm is small and has been extremely successful and Sony Japan wasn't closed despite releasing a flop after a flop and it's their main studio in Japan.
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Tango Softworks in Japan, Arkane and MachineGames in Europe. BGS and idSoftware in NA.
I mean he's right but lately it freels like most of those studios are focused on the same kind of games: M rated 3rd person action games. Sure you got PD with an GT game or two per gen. Media Molecule with one big idea per gen. Team Ico with 1 game every 2 gens. But year in and year out its just 3rd person action games. If Sonys studios are all basically making the same games catering to the same people, they could have 13 studios or 130 studios and it wouldn't make much difference. I miss previous gens where they were more broad. Sony used to put out more mascot platformers, RPGs, and kart racers. Somehow half way through PS4s life all these genres were dropped by Sony.
Ubisoft too. They have Shanghai and Osaka studios, the former of which I think is making Skull and Bones.
Ok you got me. I didnt even know about the existence of this studio. I guess it is The Evil Within guys?
Phil Harrison was one of the primary faces of Playstation during the era everyone gave Sony shit for being arrogant.
I don't particularly think Shawn is a very good public speaker, but I don't think he's all that arrogant. He's just awkward and feels kind of fake on stage, similar to Phil "says every sentence with the exact same intonation" Spencer.
True or not they make what most people would say are good games across those 3 regions. I just don't understand why the OP was so aggressively acting like people had already shown up to refute the claim. Like, it was the OP lol, who are you arguing against?
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I mean it's splitting hairs I suppose, but I don't think it's fair to exclude the whole of Asia outside of Japan in this context, so I would say that Ubisoft's Singapore studio has AAA presence.
And of course Square Enix is developing AAA content in North America, Europe, and Japan.
And of course Square Enix is developing AAA content in North America, Europe, and Japan.
Please explain.
Ubisoft being more efficient isn't a fact when you consider how many people they put on a single game, they also don't have an AAA studio in Japan which is what this thread about.
But the games from their Japanese studios don't even sell the most in Japan, any game from any of their studios has a global reach since Sony is a worldwide company.
I've always found it interesting that region discussions exclude Canada. I always thought they had a proportionally large game development scene. At the very least lumping them in with the US as the NA region like they do with Europe would make some sense.
You should Google Ubi's Studios. They have devs in more regions than Sony.
Well, the China Hero Project is Sony ran iirc, so they're trying at least! Would definitely be cool for them to eventually make a big studio there for sure. I think that's what this china hero project will eventually lead to down the line.
I always chuckle when people react so emotionally to what an executive says. When they, either Shawn or Phil do these interviews, what do people want them to do, say something like, " Well, I guess our first party is all right...". Apply that to any subject, they aren't going to actively shit on their brands in an interview, especially if one of the talking points of the industry is how good they are at something, in this case Sony's first party output. Of coarse Shawn is going to prop that up, because, guess what? He's an executive at Sony. Just like Phil will prop up the power of the Xbox One X, when he gets a chance in interviews, they are going to play to their strengths. Also to give Shawn some, lee-way(even though I don't think he needs any), he may of been referring to first party exclusivly. I don't think Microsoft produces big AAA games out of Japan, and I don't think Nintendo produces big AAA out of Europe, and to extent America( I know Retro, but they've been dormant for a while, and I can't think of any other Nintendo Studio in America).
I think its a good idea that Sony started to market its Worldwide Studios and its proprietary engines.
Making people trust in Sonys capabilities to consistently put out several of the best games of a generation is a big feat and one of the biggest reasons for Ps4 success and if you ask me its one of the main reasons why I think that Ps5 will win next generation again. The fact that their studios are also pushing technical boundaries on a regular basis is a huge advantage for Sony as well. Microsoft can't really capitalize on the power advantage of the X1X, because the best looking games are still Ps4 exclusives. I expect a similar situation next gen.
WWS is the backbone of Sonys success, almost to a similar extent as Nintendos IP is the backbone of of theirs.
So I get why Shawn Layden is proud of that but I think there are better ways to market their studio infrastructure than boasting weird claims about being able to produce AAA games in three regions.
Making people trust in Sonys capabilities to consistently put out several of the best games of a generation is a big feat and one of the biggest reasons for Ps4 success and if you ask me its one of the main reasons why I think that Ps5 will win next generation again. The fact that their studios are also pushing technical boundaries on a regular basis is a huge advantage for Sony as well. Microsoft can't really capitalize on the power advantage of the X1X, because the best looking games are still Ps4 exclusives. I expect a similar situation next gen.
WWS is the backbone of Sonys success, almost to a similar extent as Nintendos IP is the backbone of of theirs.
So I get why Shawn Layden is proud of that but I think there are better ways to market their studio infrastructure than boasting weird claims about being able to produce AAA games in three regions.
How many japanese games could sell as much as God of War, Uncharted or God of War ? Even Detroit probably sell (or will) much than any PlayStation 4 exclusive from Japan, except GT Sport and Bloodborne.
Go read my previous comments and Ubisoft point still stands lol
I mean, that's kind of just because there really aren't that many big games out of Sony Japan. If they put the effort into developing and marketing their Japanese games the same way they do their Western IP, they could certainly get them to sell similarly.
Sorry but I've decided Japan Studio are doing Siren 3 next.
Nope. Square Enix's main western offices might be based in London but their biggest European developed game right now is Life is Strange 2 and while I'm really looking forward to it, it isn't AAA. Hitman would've counted but it's gone.
Bethesda do though, which I'm guessing Shawn forgot because everyone seems to forget Bethesda owns Tango. No big deal, the people trying to make this into some kind of scandal are really embarrassing themselves.
Arrogant Sony is back. How many threads have we gotten recently about Sony boasting about their first party? Does it matter where a game comes from? As long as it's good that's all that matters. Pokemon is developed in Japan but sells better than any IP owned by Sony. Same goes for Mario Kart.
I haven't read all of the replies but my first though was Nintendo, who's only weakness would be Europe I suppose but Isn't MK8D big in EU? (I only recall UK, Ger and France charts but pretty sure it charted pretty high on all of those), similarly Zelda was very well received in the EU
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/453141/best-selling-console-games-in-europe/
Horizon 2.04
MK8D 1.69
Zelda 1.55
GT 1.55
SMO 1.44
Seems pretty even
Source
https://www.statista.com/statistics/453141/best-selling-console-games-in-europe/
Horizon 2.04
MK8D 1.69
Zelda 1.55
GT 1.55
SMO 1.44
Seems pretty even
Their biggest european game in development right now is Just Cause 4, Avalanche is in Sweden.
Also People Can Fly is making an AAA FPS title with Square Enix.
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