LG 2017 OLEDs - Calibrated Settings for Xbox One X / webOS (SDR/HDR/DV)

P40L0

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Hello everyone,

I would like to share my final set of professionally Calibrated Settings for all LG 2017 OLEDs and Xbox One X gaming, with the best PQ and lowest Input-Lag results possible (21ms), including Dolby Vision and webOS in-built Apps calibration.
Also White Balance and CMS were accurately tuned when possible , plus there is a special custom calibration for Dolby Vision (more details below)

Yeah, I know, "real calibration cannot be copy/pasted from TV to TV as they're all different" , but tested LG OLED variance between models is much lower then average, and even within a 3% variance you will still experience a much more accurate image compared to default presets.

There are 6 Profiles to independently 1-time-Calibrate for each source/content combination, and then forget about it.

In order to do it, just change the video source to the one you want to calibrate (for example: webOS Netflix app, or to HDMI1 connected to Xbox One X) and then load up the type of video content you want to calibrate (for example: launch an SDR Game, or an HDR Game, or a Dolby Vision movie).

Once you're ready, apply those Calibration Presets (click Titles to open the documents, you can also print them for convenience):

  • Xbox One X + SDR Calibrated Settings + Option 2 (NEW) - Note: try to launch any SDR content to start calibrating, for example just stay in the Dashboard Home. All Xbox One X SDR contents will share the calibration;

  • Xbox One X + HDR Calibrated Settings + Option 2 (NEW) - Note: Try to launch any HDR content to start calibrating, for example just open "Insects" Demo or any other HDR game. All Xbox One X HDR contents will share the calibration;

  • Xbox One X + Dolby Vision Calibrated Settings + Option 2 (NEW) - Note: try to launch any Dolby Vision content to start calibrating, for example just open Netflix app and launch a DV movie. All Xbox One X Dolby Vision contents will share the calibration;

  • webOS + SDR Calibrated Settings - Note: try to launch any SDR content to start calibrating, for example just open Netflix app from your LG remote. All webOS SDR contents will share the calibration;

  • webOS + HDR Calibrated Settings - Note: try to launch any HDR content to start calibrating, for example just open YouTube app from your LG remote, and search for any HDR videos. All webOS HDR contents will share the calibration;

  • webOS + Dolby Vision Calibrated Settings - Note: try to launch any Dolby Vision content to start calibrating, for example open Netflix app from your LG remote, and start playing "Altered Carbon" show. All webOS Dolby Vision contents will share the calibration. These settings require TV firmware version 5.80.xx or above and extra-installation steps. PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY.

These are actual meter based calibration settings ( vs. disc based ) using a recently certified ( June 2018 ) Spectracal C6 meter, Murideo 6G pattern generator, and CalMan for Biz 2017.

These settings are tailor made and compatible with ALL 2017 LG OLEDs variants (e.g. LG B7, C7, E7, G7, W7), but you can also try it for 2018 and even 2016 OLEDs line-up (just do NOT apply custom White Balance and CMS points values for those, just limit to general settings as a baseline and try to adjust it from there if necessary).

Let me know what you think.

Hope you enjoy it :)

Cheers,

P

NOTE: Don't forget to adjust HDR "Sliders" also in game settings if available. Usually, for these TVs, you need to "increase" the level of Max HDR Brightness "Slider" to make the game logo/icon totally disappear in a white background, or set it to a numerical number around 4.000 nits (Option 1) or 2.000 nits (Option 2). This is the reason why, even with both the console and the TVs properly calibrated, some games may look "dark" or "washed out" if this setting is left to default.

EDIT: Pre and Post-Calibration graphs below.


ULTIMATE EDIT:
  • ALL PROFILES UPDATED TO V7.2 ULTIMATE
  • 2 OPTIONS FOR X1X/GAMING (Option 1: based on SDR/HDR Game; Option 2: based on PC Input/Mode + Input lag FIX!)
  • Firmware 5.80.15 or above is required
  • Completely new re-calibration of all SDR/HDR/DV picture modes with new tools and after 4.000+ hours usage
  • New Dolby Vision Custom Calibration file to apply via USB patch (updated on April 2019)
  • Added new in-game HDR suggested settings

That's it folks.
As per "ULTIMATE" tag, I really finished my ammo on LG 2017 OLED Series this time and I won't make any further tests after these results.

The only way to add improvement on top of this would be by LG to add real Dynamic Tonemapping also for 7 series (but probably this will never happen).

Until then, thanks everyone for all the feedback, it was an epic ride.

Make your HDR games scream! >:]



CALIBRATED IN-GAME HDR SUGGESTED SETTINGS / EXAMPLES:


Option 1:
  • AC Origins: 4.000 nits HDR Luminance, 120 Paper White, Brightness 1 tick left compared to default;
  • AC Odyssey: 4.000 nits HDR Luminance, 120 Paper White, Brightness at middle (Default);
  • Battlefield 1: Brightness at 50% (Default), 4.000 nits HDR Luminance
  • Battlefield V: Brightness at 50% (Default), 2.000 nits HDR Luminance (Max)
  • Forza Horizon 3: Brightness 50 (Default), HDR Luminance slider to the Max
  • Forza Horizon 4: 4.000 nits HDR Luminance, Brightness 50 (Default)
  • Forza Motorsport 7: Brightness 50 (Default), HDR slider to the Max
  • Halo: MCC: all at Defaults (1.000 HDR Luminance, 150 Paper White, Contrast 5)
  • Hellblade: Gamma raised 1 tick right;
  • Gears of War 4: Brightness at default, HDR Luminance 8 ticks from left to right
  • Red Dead Redemption 2: HDR Style: Game; Luminance: 4.000; White point: 120 NEW
  • Resident Evil 7: HDR Luminance 2.000 nits (its Max), HDR Brightness 320
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider: Brightness to the Middle and HDR Luminance to the Max
  • Shadow ot the Tomb Raider: Video Mode: Resolution (for Native 4K), HDR: On, Brightness: Maxed to the right; HDR Luminance slider: Maxed to the right

Option 2:
  • AC Origins: 2.000 nits HDR Luminance, 120 Paper White, Brightness 1 tick left compared to default;
  • AC Odyssey: 2.000 nits HDR Luminance, 120 Paper White, Brightness 1 tick left compared to default);
  • Battlefield 1: Brightness at 50% (Default), 2.000 nits HDR Luminance
  • Battlefield V: Brightness at 50% (Default), 2.000 nits HDR Luminance (Max)
  • Forza Horizon 3: Brightness 50 (Default), HDR Luminance slider to the Max
  • Forza Horizon 4: 2.000 nits HDR Luminance, Brightness 50 (Default)
  • Forza Motorsport 7: Brightness 50 (Default), HDR slider to the Max
  • Halo: MCC: all at Defaults (1.000 HDR Luminance, 0,5 Paper White, Contrast 5)
  • Hellblade: Gamma lowered 1 tick left;
  • Gears of War 4: Brightness at default, HDR Luminance 3 ticks from left to right
  • Red Dead Redemption 2: HDR Style: Game; Luminance: 2.000; White point: 120 NEW
  • Resident Evil 7: HDR Luminance 2.000 nits (its Max), HDR Brightness 300
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider: Brightness to the Middle and HDR Luminance to the Max
  • Shadow ot the Tomb Raider: Video Mode: Resolution (for Native 4K), HDR: On, Brightness: Maxed to the right; HDR Luminance slider: Maxed to the right






 
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Shadow

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My family has one of these I play on occasionly.... thanks for sharing! Bookmarked for the time being.
 

FairFight

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Thank you for this. Can I ask why you would select 12 bit color in the Xbox One X settings when it’s a 10 bit panel? Also I thought the dynamic contrast being on was a no no for gaming as it can crush blacks. I do however understand it being on to give the illusion of making hdr brighter in game mode. One last thing... I’ve tried a variation of settings including dynamic contrast settings and even with it on there are games where I just can’t make the “image disappear” even with the slider the whole way up. Forza 7, and the newest Tomb Raider for example. Is this just a result of the max nits for these sets being rather low? I have a B7a btw. Appreciate the very detailed post. Thanks for your time in doing this. I’ll give it a shot however I’ve been pretty happy with the rtings settings thus far. Who knows.
 

Kyle Cross

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Why do you set OLED light to 70 in webOS HDR and Dolby Vision? HDR should always be 100 and DV 50, should they not?
 
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J_ToSaveTheDay

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Glad to see I was already pretty much there! I had put together information I read between Rtings and Digital Foundry's 2016 LG calibration video to basically come to similar (if not just slightly different) conclusions!

This is a very nice and concise guide to achieve the same thing.

Personally, I'm at Dynamic Contrast on medium, though the post from FairFight above has me a bit concerned. I'm NOT a professional calibrator (and in fact this is the first proper TV I've owned in just over a decade) but even with the least amount of lighting possible in my living room, the picture in HDR Game Mode tends to be just a tad too dim without it, and in-game sliders don't seem to provide enough luminance or correction to make it suitable to my preferences (ESPECIALLY in contrast to the way films look). I really hope it's not crushing blacks, and as far as I can tell, that's not happening... :(
 
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Pryme

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In addition to the Xbox One X, I also have a PS4 Pro hooked up to my B7. Will this also be great for the PS4 Pro HDR content?
 
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Thank you for this. Can I ask why you would select 12 bit color in the Xbox One X settings when it’s a 10 bit panel? Also I thought the dynamic contrast being on was a no no for gaming as it can crush blacks. I do however understand it being on to give the illusion of making hdr brighter in game mode. One last thing... I’ve tried a variation of settings including dynamic contrast settings and even with it on there are games where I just can’t make the “image disappear” even with the slider the whole way up. Forza 7, and the newest Tomb Raider for example. Is this just a result of the max nits for these sets being rather low? I have a B7a btw. Appreciate the very detailed post. Thanks for your time in doing this. I’ll give it a shot however I’ve been pretty happy with the rtings settings thus far. Who knows.
Selecting 12-bit on Xbox it only enables the possibility to output them. HDR games will still output @10-bits , but now Xbox supports native Dolby Vision with Netflix app (for now), and DV sources are all native 12-bit (same as webOS in-built Netflix app). Those OLEDS (as basically all TVs on the market) are 10-bit panel, but being certified for Dolby Vision as LG OLEDs 2017/2018 means those 12-bit sources are still downsampled in an optimized way by the TV.

For DC set to Low in HDR Game mode I found the slight more "punch" better than default and without noticing any crushed black. I also leave it that way because I still hope that LG will implement Active HDR also for Game Mode via firmware update, someday… :)

Regarding in-game HDR Sliders, I was able to make the Forza Horizon 4 logo disappear completely around 3.500 nits with this calibration (also with DC set to Low), but you're correct: games behave differently, as Halo: MCC is perfectly fine @ 1.000 nits, AC: Origins @ 3.000 nits and Forza 7 could never fully hide the logo. I think the reason is how ABL (Automatic Brightness Limiter) of these TVs handles peak light conditions, that could vary between game HDR calibrations menus. For now, I would trust Forza Horizon 4. ;)
 

DOTDASHDOT

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Do not ever select 10 or 12bit manually in the Xbox settings, you'll never be running SDR games at full RGB if you do that.

Just select 8bit, when an HDR game is detected, the Xbox will automatically choose 10bit anyway, I know this for a fact as I use a HD Fury Vertex, which gives me real-time video info.
 
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Why do you set OLED light to 70 in webOS HDR and Dolby Vision? HDR should always be 100 and DV 50, should they not?
technicolor HDR OLED Light @ 100 is too bright for a Dark Room, while DV Cinema OLED Light @ 70 (together with White Balance settings) must be accompanied with the USB Custom file to look good (this will provide a less "dark" PQ even with movies mastered @ 4.000 nits and over)
 

Kyle Cross

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Do not ever select 10 or 12bit manually in the Xbox settings, you'll never be running SDR games at full RGB if you do that.

Just select 8bit, when an HDR game is detected, the Xbox will automatically choose 10bit anyway, I know this for a fact as I use a HD Fury Vertex, which gives me real-time video info.
Could you check something for me with your real-time video info? Do you happen to have a gaming PC? Some suggest that Windows 10 automatically changes from RGB 8bit to YUV422 10bit when an HDR game is launched. I'm very skeptical of this, and the signal doesn't seem to in Windows display information which I can view on a second monitor.
 

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Could you check something for me with your real-time video info? Do you happen to have a gaming PC? Some suggest that Windows 10 automatically changes from RGB 8bit to YUV422 10bit when an HDR game is launched. I'm very skeptical of this, and the signal doesn't seem to in Windows display information which I can view on a second monitor.
No it defintely doesn't, I've checked and it stays at 8bit.
 

CloseTalker

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Great post. I don’t like the picture to be nearly that warm, I put it closer to W10 or so, but that’s just how I like it.
 

MrBob

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Could you check something for me with your real-time video info? Do you happen to have a gaming PC? Some suggest that Windows 10 automatically changes from RGB 8bit to YUV422 10bit when an HDR game is launched. I'm very skeptical of this, and the signal doesn't seem to in Windows display information which I can view on a second monitor.
UBI games you can choose between hdr10 and rgb 8 bit HDR in the menu but they seem to be the only games I've seen this option.
 

bonch00ski

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So I own an LG TV that isn’t Oled and I used your Xbox one x sdr setting to match as best as I could with my settings and fuck me im actually very satisfied with what it’s doing now.


You indirectly helped me with my tv thanks a bunch!!
 

Eggiem

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technicolor HDR OLED Light @ 100 is too bright for a Dark Room, while DV Cinema OLED Light @ 70 (together with White Balance settings) must be accompanied with the USB Custom file to look good (this will provide a less "dark" PQ even with movies mastered @ 4.000 nits and over)
I copied all your settings to my technicolor setting. (Calibrated Isf dark and bright with 2 other sources, so now I can choose between 3 diffferent settings xD).
One question regarding the costom DV file: Can you reverse this? I don't want to mess with the data or future updates.
 

Brucey

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Glad to see I was already pretty much there! I had put together information I read between Rtings and Digital Foundry's 2016 LG calibration video to basically come to similar (if not just slightly different) conclusions!

This is a very nice and concise guide to achieve the same thing.

Personally, I'm at Dynamic Contrast on medium, though the post from FairFight above has me a bit concerned. I'm NOT a professional calibrator (and in fact this is the first proper TV I've owned in just over a decade) but even with the least amount of lighting possible in my living room, the picture in HDR Game Mode tends to be just a tad too dim without it, and in-game sliders don't seem to provide enough luminance or correction to make it suitable to my preferences (ESPECIALLY in contrast to the way films look). I really hope it's not crushing blacks, and as far as I can tell, that's not happening... :(
I have an lg c8 and I have dynamic contrast set to high. I just like the way it makes things pop more. Also curious if this has a negative affect on my picture. It looks nice to me at least.
 

2Bee

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I have a C8, but will still take a look at a few things here and try them on my OLED.

Thank you for sharing your settings OP.
 

FrankNitty

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You have a lot of 20 point CMS adjustments. That generally wasn't needed on 7 series or even 8 series. The only downside I see to it though for your SDR settings is that with so many adjustments to Green is that you are locking people into 2.2 gamma. Also with OLED light at 49 and 2.2 gamma what are you targeting? like 65fL? Day mode only it seems. For DV doesn't matter much since it is based off a 2.2 target initially anyways. Still a lot of adjustments. When I have done DV using a Videoforge Pro and made excessive adjustments to DV the charts looks great but when checking against reference material it was off on various scenes. I found that making heavy adjustments that are meaningful to influence the charts to look right do more harm then good. I haven't touched a 7 series in almost a year so maybe I'm mistaken

Also just curious what pattern, pattern size and APL did you use for your calibrations? Also why Technicolor as opposed to ISF modes?
 

SOLDIER

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Do you have similar recommended settings for video content that isn't Dolby Vision (like 4K movies)?

I keep getting back-and-forth comments on whether to use ISF Brightness or ISF Dark. I'm on a C8 by the way.
 
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Do you have similar recommended settings for video content that isn't Dolby Vision (like 4K movies)?

I keep getting back-and-forth comments on whether to use ISF Brightness or ISF Dark. I'm on a C8 by the way.
You can use the 2017 settings above (Technicolor Expert for SDR and Technicolor Cinema for HDR) as a baseline for 2018 models (except White Balance and Color Management System, to be left alone at their defaults there), then adjust if you need to.
 

SOLDIER

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Color Temperature: W45? Ehhhhhh.

That aside, I've had instances where I feel that dark scenes on my TV (like at night time or a cave or whatever) are darker than they should be, while daytime/bright areas are just fine.

Do you know what picture settings tend to determine that, besides RGB Low/High (which I do have set correctly)?
 

Barneystuta

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Thanks for posting. Pretty close to the settings I use currently, will see how these tweaks make a difference.

Out of interest how bright is the room you use the TV in? Is there any natural light/windows?
 

EvilBoris

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Color Temperature: W45? Ehhhhhh.

That aside, I've had instances where I feel that dark scenes on my TV (like at night time or a cave or whatever) are darker than they should be, while daytime/bright areas are just fine.

Do you know what picture settings tend to determine that, besides RGB Low/High (which I do have set correctly)?

HDR10/DV content is very dark, add that to a display that will accurately display no light when told to and you have a recipe for a very dark picture.
 

Brutal Deluxe

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Should YUV422 not be unchecked? It says only use if your tv struggles with HDR. As these TV’s don’t struggle why would you use it?
 

Sky87

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These settings are great, been using your settings since i got my TV in February after finding them on Reddit.

Only differences i see is that you now suggest Dynamic Contrast Low instead of Medium which you did before. Any special reason for this? There is a pretty major difference and i feel Medium is needed to compensate for the slightly dimmer Game mode in HDR.
Also Color Gamut might be a personal preference thing, some games pop a lot more with Wide which some people might prefer. Personally i used Wide for a few months, but realized it wasn't 100% what the developers intended color wise.

Can greatly recommend these settings for anyone with the 7 series OLEDS, and they're probably a great starter point for the 6/8 series too.

Should YUV422 not be unchecked? It says only use if your tv struggles with HDR. As these TV’s don’t struggle why would you use it?
Also a good question. Personally i see no differences between allowing this and not allowing it. I know that PS4 selects YUV422 when set to Auto or RGB when playing HDR games though, so it should be fine.

YCC422/YUV422 should be the same thing, no?
 
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I copied all your settings to my technicolor setting. (Calibrated Isf dark and bright with 2 other sources, so now I can choose between 3 diffferent settings xD).
One question regarding the costom DV file: Can you reverse this? I don't want to mess with the data or future updates.
Yes, the custom DV file is only a DV profile configurator, it's no hack. You can easily restore the DV Profile to its default settings with a button, or after a TV factory restore. No issues with future FW upgrades.
 
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P40L0

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Thanks for posting. Pretty close to the settings I use currently, will see how these tweaks make a difference.

Out of interest how bright is the room you use the TV in? Is there any natural light/windows?
I usually play content in a dark room (not pitch black, external street lights outside or from other rooms).

These settings are best in a dark room anyway, but can also be good on mildly bright environment.
 

Brutal Deluxe

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These settings are great, been using your settings since i got my TV in February after finding them on Reddit.

Only differences i see is that you now suggest Dynamic Contrast Low instead of Medium which you did before. Any special reason for this? There is a pretty major difference and i feel Medium is needed to compensate for the slightly dimmer Game mode in HDR.
Also Color Gamut might be a personal preference thing, some games pop a lot more with Wide which some people might prefer. Personally i used Wide for a few months, but realized it wasn't 100% what the developers intended color wise.

Can greatly recommend these settings for anyone with the 7 series OLEDS, and they're probably a great starter point for the 6/8 series too.


Also a good question. Personally i see no differences between allowing this and not allowing it. I know that PS4 selects YUV422 when set to Auto or RGB when playing HDR games though, so it should be fine.

YCC422/YUV422 should be the same thing, no?

I used AC Origins earlier in the year flicking back and forth between checked and unchecked. It definitely looked more vibrant and less washed out unchecked. It did require a slight tweak to in game settings but I found I much preferred it.
I also believe 8bit should be selected as it will auto change up to 10bit when HDR signal detected but won’t auto change down with SDR content.
 

Kyle Cross

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The default sharpness of 20 isn't actually no sharpening filter. 10 completely disables the sharpening filter on these TVs. At 20 you can still sometimes see halos during fast motion in games.
That actually goes the other way, and introduces blurriness into the image. 10 turns off sharpness without turning on a softening filter.
You're gonna have to post some receipts for that.
 

LiK

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Cool, will check it out and see did it improve PQ for me. Wish you had a Pro lol
 

Sky87

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I used AC Origins earlier in the year flicking back and forth between checked and unchecked. It definitely looked more vibrant and less washed out unchecked. It did require a slight tweak to in game settings but I found I much preferred it.
I also believe 8bit should be selected as it will auto change up to 10bit when HDR signal detected but won’t auto change down with SDR content.
This is interesting. I've been going back and forth with this option and i've seen people claiming the opposite (though that was with a different TV). Can anyone else confirm this? I can't really say i feel anything is washed out while Allowing YCC422, but haven't really switched back and forth to test.
 

Novocaine

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Subbing so I remember to do this when I’m more alert. Thanks for putting this effort in. B7/1X owner here