Im sure you are 100% right on all this but as a fellow consumer GAMER who has no clue how the pipes and the lines and the operations work for a game and has no care for it as long as the game is sick, 2042 seem like it aint it.
Right, but that's their problem and I'm not going to stop holding them accountable for refusing to listen and learn. There's no good faith argument where "less maps = bad" holds water here and isn't deserving of discussion. It's dumb. But I don't disagree with you that superficial surface level content checklists are largely what appease to people in the mass market, unfortunately, so here we are.
i want to plaster this post all over r/battlefield2042
unfortunately i even agree with your general assessment of 2042. and a lot of stuff i hate in this game is by design so it will never get "fixed" because DICE doesn't see it as a problem
its so frustrating
It'd be downvoted into oblivion because it's not conforming to the angry rabble pissing in each others mouths over The List that has a bunch of Stuff that wasn't in the game (or was and just changed but, you know, fuck context).
We've seen this time and time and time again with countless games that fall out of positive public opinion. All the rabble want is some obnoxious Crowbarcat video compilation of animation bugs so they can scream on forums/reddit/twitter/4chan/social media how funny video show game bad.
Mass Effect: Andromeda was the same. We could talk abut the lukewarm story that undermines its own potential with lazy retreading of trilogy ideas and concepts. We could talk about the stiff combat and meat sponge enemies. We could talk about the overly busy, lived-in environments that are still somehow sterile and boring. We could talk about the bland fetch quests and dry writing. We could talk about how Frostbite feels like it's on the fringe of falling apart even as you navigate menus. But, you know, My Face Is Tired :D :D :D :D game bad.
Why do you guys all seem to focus on 1 or 2 things on the list to try and discredit it (campaign, maps)? Why do you all continue to ignore many of the basic features that have existed in nearly every entry in the series until this one?
Literally not one person in this thread that is raging about the existence of this list seems to actually have a good counter point and rather rages against the very idea of the list instead. Maybe it's because people don't actually have a good reason for so many removed features so it's easier to attack the person.
It really feels like people are completely willing to excuse shitty products just so they can dunk on the "Gamers".
Yes, it's a shitty list, because it's just a dumb fucking checklist of
stuff divorced from context as to why those changes may have taken place, nullifying an argument as to
why those changes might be good or bad, by reducing the argument down to a binary "DOES IT EXIST Y/N, COS N = BAD". They didn't
remove classes, they changed and reworked them; how they're set up and limited, how they're presented to the player and organised. And it's ass. I think the new specialist system is awful and doesn't lend itself to a better playing game, and I firmly believe DICE made the wrong decision. But it looks nicer on a shitpost list of Gamer Rage to put "NO CLASSES" as if that statement, in of itself, has any meaning or relevance without the discussion surrounding it.
The list is critiqued because it's lazy. And lazy is a critique aimed at gamers who do not want to unpack and discuss things, to outline where a product/project is faulted and why, because rambling off a checklist is easier than having a nuanced discussion about the content and context. So why on earth would I give it any due credit?
If you followed my posts (including, ironically, the one you're quoting) surrounding this game you'd know I don't like it. I didn't like the beta and I don't like the release. So I'm clearly not rushing to defend a "shitty product". But it's easier to assume that, handwave criticism towards lazy discussion, and continue the echochamber dogpile.
Or, in short: a stupid fucking list of "stuff removed" divorced of context or reason or discussion is not in of itself valuable discussion. It doesn't tell us why Battlefield 2042 is good or bad or where it works or where it doesn't. Some things listed highlight genuine problems and inexcusable absence of features of content. Some parts are fair observations but nevertheless nitpicks that are not indicative of why the game has issues, so much as disappointment at feature absence. Lazy discussion does not befit addressing why the game is what it is, warts and all.