Louis C.K. to Crowd in Israel: "I’d Rather Be in Auschwitz Than New York City"
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Didn't the comedy club that he was invited to and defended at was in NYC? And the person criticizing him was kicked out?
I personally don't think it is and I'm Jewish. But I also think Louis CK is a piece of shit and I'm fine with people shouting at him and over him for any and all reasons until he goes away and stay away.
Experience of being afraid to show his face in NYC because he's a sexual offender > Jewish victims being sent to Auschwitz
I don't know. Seems like pretty poor taste to me.
The joke seems fine honestly.
The shitty gender identity joke from a while back was both in bad taste and painfully unfunny.
The shitty gender identity joke from a while back was both in bad taste and painfully unfunny.
So, you do support what he did to those women. Amazing how people can justify almost anything in their own minds.
Fuck this prick. Let him spew this shit to the assholes that want to listen and leave the rest of the world untainted by his nonsense. Deplatforming works.
You pathetically masturbated in front of unsuspecting women. Anytime anyone meets or interviews him, this should be the only refrain. The first and last thing said to the scumbag.
I dare these people to just explain why a single comedian is worth supporting after that. Like they have the burden of convincing the rest of us who have values that rank higher than the feelings & career of a middle aged comic.
well it's pretty clear it was a self aware joke and he says obviously NOW as opposed to when it was actually open. It's a shitty joke, but if he wasn't hated it wouldn't even register. The bigger issue as others have pointed out is him talking about his life as a "victim". Such an asshole.
Two things can be true at the same time. Louis is an asshole, and judging a joke this way is completely useless.
I think Louis CK's ultimate nightmare is people not talking about him
I don't even think he wants that attention honestly. He's just doing shows, he doesn't promote anywhere, he hasn't been seen publicly in years. The only attention he gets is from people that go to his shows to report on it on their own accord.
We're not judging how funny it is, we're judging how fucking shitty it is for this dude to keep playing the victim card.
And I'm not sure why we'd think video proof of his jokes is gunna look any better, considering the content he's been pumping out since he admitted to what he did.
He said Auschwitz right now in the full joke. I can picture him delivering it like that and getting laughs.
Took the comment out of my mouth. Yes there's a place for dark comedy and the Aushwitz part of his bit isn't crazy controversial, because this is taken from his stand-up set, but the way he's reacted to the shit he HAS done is suuuuuper wack.
Really disappointing to hear his fans' take on it.
Fuck me I despise this mentality. Fame and fortune isn't Louis' god given right. People don't owe him their support. And it's HIS OWN ACTIONS that would have (should have) ruined his career. Nobody else has put their fingers on the scale. Being a "comedy genius" doesn't mean he's exempt from being a decent human being. A "genius'" career should be fucking ruined if they decide to act like a monster off-stage. This is the exact opposite of complicated but I guess pretending it is gives you an excuse to "dwell on all of the complexities" while still supporting the funny sexual harasser.
It all goes back to the gross and wrong-headed mentality I've never identified with, which is people putting their own self-worth and personal investment in individuals, particularly celebrities. From MJ to R Kelly to Louis, there isn't and has never been a moment where I valued artists I liked enough to ignore my morals or excuse/defend their heinous actions. I don't need Louis CK specifically to make me laugh so much that I'd use "it wasn't exactly rape" to justify my perpetual support.
There are other funny comedians. There are a wealth of them that are vehemently against sexual harassment at all. You could find replacements in a heartbeat if the comedy is all that mattered. These people barely consider this though because all of themselves is tied up specifically to this pathetic limp dick "comedic genius" and any self-reflection as to why that is or if that's healthy is barely entertained.
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There is definitely a discussion to be had around men being terrible at understanding when consent can truly be considered unspoken, and the comparison of false assumption he made is slightly apt, as there are people who make such wrong-headed assumptions about slave spirituals...
... but I would rather those kinds of discussion originate from almost ANYONE else. It just comes off as yet another excuse coming from him.
This piece of shit never felt an ounce of remorse, it's sickening how he even integrated it into his act. Disgusting trash excuse for a human being.
Especially when the dude was jacking off in front of people in professional situations.
Yeah I'm sure that's really easy to misinterpret, tons of women actually wanted that to happen!
Hell guys who entered into the exact same situation as the women he victimized would have the exact same reaction. But Louis' agenda is to frame it as a female-specific consent issue. "Why can't women be more clear when they want guys to jack off in front of them?" Consent as a phrase shouldn't even exist in the conversation around this dude because from the ground up these meeetings were about professional networking and not sexual intimacy. Louis using consent implies at some point sexual interest was suggested and his victims just "randomly changed their minds about that". His cards weren't on the table but his supporters and himself want to pretend they were and that sadly there was just a "misunderstanding" along the way that was the singular fault of his victims.
Seriously. I normally hate it when people characterize reactions to this kind of stuff as 'outrage culture policing' but the handwringing over Louis CK of all people telling an ~edgy joke~ is ridiculous. "I'm surprised the audience wasn't offended" lol
The actual problem with Louis is his real misconduct and his seeming refusal to do anything about it or even acknowledge it. Not telling jokes about Auschwitz -- which, in the slightly fuller context that the OP left out, is even tamer.
That's interesting, because Aziz Ansari has also made this a part of his new act. Now what Aziz was guilty of doesn't compare to Louis' misconduct, and it sounds like from second-hand accounts of both sets, the way Aziz tackles his is more self-reflective and thoughtful than Louis' is. But even that aside, what would be worse -- not acknowledging past wrong-doing and your own thoughts about it, or ignoring it altogether and treating this like another typical standup tour? Is the former more exploitative than the latter is whitewashing, or is it the reverse? Personally, if guys like Louis and Aziz are going to continue performing, I'd rather hear them tackle their shit and address it honestly and thoughtfully, as they do any other part of their lives, rather than pretend it didn't happen. Granted it doesn't sound like Louis isn't really doing that yet either, but I don't think it's "sickening" for a comic accused of misconduct to make it a part of the standup, at least not the idea of it.
