its not yet actually out in the wild, the only people who currently know how to use it/have access only are doing it to raise awareness. I don't know if they've said what kind of recourse you could have if you get affected.
Major Dark Souls 3 PC security exploit found (UP: may affect ALL Dark Souls games on PC + possibly Elden Ring) [Update: Fan Patch Up]
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its not yet actually out in the wild, the only people who currently know how to use it/have access only are doing it to raise awareness. I don't know if they've said what kind of recourse you could have if you get affected.
Reminds me of Aliens Fireteam Elite where one person would be cheating or using mods (I think the bot mod) and it would also affect the engine of other online players as if they also installed the mod.
feels Koei-Tecmo tier too, same energy.
Nah, hysterical discord security alerts are usually bogus.
Seems like this could be real though.
Wow I never thought that the network code was that bad for the Souls games. This needs more attention in the more mainstream media.
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Man... wtf...
So we must not play any of the Dark Souls games until a patch comes out?
Now I am really glad I bought ER on PS5. Cannot imagine not playing that day one online.
So we must not play any of the Dark Souls games until a patch comes out?
Now I am really glad I bought ER on PS5. Cannot imagine not playing that day one online.
I assume if someone wanted to use it to cryptomine and what not using other people, they wouldn't have made it public so we have no idea to know if this wasn't discovered before :/ .
Sure, I don't think anyone doubts that this will be fixed in Elden Ring, the problem is Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition, Remastered, 2 and 3
This fucking sucks. DS3 is the only one I haven't beaten still and it's the PC version I have in h backlog with all the DLC already.
Really hope From/Namco will actually fix this.
Really hope From/Namco will actually fix this.
Oh of course, hopefully NB gets From to go fix it and not just leave it for the community to solve
Jesus. How shittacular must the code base be to allow this and some of the other shenanigans mentioned in this tread. I normally play offline anyway, but this is giving pause at the idea of even buying Elden Ring at all.
They have one, VAC (Valve Anti Cheat). It's up to developers to implement it.
this is very true, though everything i've read has just been a warning, no describing how to tell if youre affected/what to do if you are, though I might have missed it.
This is a good time to recommend people not to run games or any day to day applications (especially we browsers) as local administrator or user with local admin rights. Just create a regular user and use "run as administrator" when you need to install/update software or make system level changes.
What permissions should the regular user have in these programs in order to function properly?
Apparently it's down for DS2 and DS3 as well, looking at the recent forum posts. Here is hoping they are actually fixing it.
Yeah. I was doing coop with my brother, we got sent to the titlescreen on DS3, and we can't connect.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm going to wait on ER, until I'm sure that thing is safe. If the network code is so bad in DS1-3, then maybe it requires more than a simple fix, and who knows what snippets of code has been carried over to ER.
FFS, From.
FFS, From.
It's a little bit presumptuous to assume this can't hit consoles considering how little information is public on it
This is a bigger deal than the old online ban problems PC Souls games had. I wouldn't be shocked if FromSoft is forced to fix this. They should try to take a stab at the other problems while they're at it, it would be much appreciated.
This is a bigger deal than the old online ban problems PC Souls games had. I wouldn't be shocked if FromSoft is forced to fix this. They should try to take a stab at the other problems while they're at it, it would be much appreciated.
Particularly when it s been announced there is a Jailbreak for PS5 sure for V4.03 but that s the first foray and there could be one for a live version at one time.
PS4 also should have sooner rather than later another route.
One shouldn t think they will be free of annoyances on playstation (but i would think the worst to happen there would be the botched save and game crashing), particularly if a doctored save is enough to do it.
With a little luck, it can be fixed with their network solution server side (which has some updates from time to time) , rather than the actual games (i wouldn t be surprised if they couldn t do a build of the old ones because of all the deprecated libraries and out of date development tools).
ER being opt in networking there is way to setup password only network play. Since it s in active development, if they can't fixed the server side, the client will be fixed for sure.
PS4 also should have sooner rather than later another route.
One shouldn t think they will be free of annoyances on playstation (but i would think the worst to happen there would be the botched save and game crashing), particularly if a doctored save is enough to do it.
With a little luck, it can be fixed with their network solution server side (which has some updates from time to time) , rather than the actual games (i wouldn t be surprised if they couldn t do a build of the old ones because of all the deprecated libraries and out of date development tools).
ER being opt in networking there is way to setup password only network play. Since it s in active development, if they can't fixed the server side, the client will be fixed for sure.
Taking the servers down to look into this is the first thing they should have done, pretty baffling they didn't do it earlier.
well, the exploit was in the ER open beta too. And that was console only.
I like from but this is really bad. We rightfully criticise other companies for these sorts of security breaches, it is a corporations responsibility to ensure a user cannot be harmed through their product in this way. Really pathetic stuff imo.
I don't think players who use a jailbreak PS4 can matchmaking with regular users, or maybe they don't have access to the PSN at all
It's assumed to be in there because the files responsible for their netcode is very similar if not the same as dark souls 3. The were able to compare the files only because firmware 9.0 was exploited. This allowed them to fully decrypt the game package to see the files inside. But this was well after the beta had ran. They dont actually have proof of this running during the beta.
At the very least disabling all network functionality immediately.
PVP servers taken down
It's possible that it affects those two games, but console games are running in a sandbox, so it's not going to cause such issues.
Glad they've acted fast. And with Elden Ring approaching, it's good that they're doing this now.
Yea I know but if they have an official patch on PC I would expect them to roll it out to consoles anyway well maybe everything but the Switch that they don't give a shit about lol.
The original Demons Souls server on PS3 haves been shut down years ago and the Remake likely has nothing in common with From Software's engine.
Hopefully, they can get this resolved quickly. It's always when shit hits the fan these publishers act
you had dozens of articles yesterday with headlines like "Do not play Dark Souls 3"
If confirmed it's a very interesting way of intrusion, I wonder if there's a precedent or it will mark a new one.
Was talking about the remake. I have 0 knowledge how different the netcode is. I know Bluepoint said most of the original code is there under the graphical changes which is obvious but I wasn't sure about the network side of it.
Thank God. This is a a big security issue that could result in major irl consequences for people affected. (basically you could install a Trojan horse on the victims pc and then go further from there).
whats with all the fear mongering in this thread... if this has been a thing since it was released 6 years ago seems like a big nothing to me( we just now hearing about it just because a streamer that an hacker targeted... got hacked doesn't mean it can and will happen to someone else. why hasnt this been known about if its a really big deal.?... glad it was found but wtf lol i haven't played ds on pc since ds2 played everything else on ps4 but i 100% doubt this is gonna effect ERs launch...( THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER PUT OUT THAT DAMN NT 3 fucking months before release... Ive had ER videos all over YouTube for months and months... :/ ) but at the same time maybe this wouldn't be fixed if it wasn't. seems like they working on a fix now... so with over 4 weeks left im sure its fine..
ER has had the most time for any from game... and they legit go another year because of covid... :/ i understand cyberpunk and 2042 and all the year after year releases that a bugged out trashed out messes.. yeah i get it.. but FROM hasn't really done that since OG DS1 on pc... bugs sure but a trashy unfinished mess... NOPE
their last game was literally GOTY... i put over 100 hours in and never got one bug.
ER has had the most time for any from game... and they legit go another year because of covid... :/ i understand cyberpunk and 2042 and all the year after year releases that a bugged out trashed out messes.. yeah i get it.. but FROM hasn't really done that since OG DS1 on pc... bugs sure but a trashy unfinished mess... NOPE
their last game was literally GOTY... i put over 100 hours in and never got one bug.
Absolutely not.
It's a problem on Pc not on console, and having to pay for testing, QA, and two (three) consoles certification on all those games is absolutely not happening.
the big different is ones on psn and one isnt... this was only possible because it was on a jailbroken ps4.
