Major Nelson/Phil Spencer: Facebook Gaming will NOT be integrated into the Xbox like Mixer currently/Giving choice where to stream from Xbox
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I'm very grateful they clarified this. I understand the concern of some, but I had my doubts it would be implemented as intrusively as some people speculated.
I'm happy that this news has reassured many people. Can't wait for next gen!
I'm happy that this news has reassured many people. Can't wait for next gen!
Getting xcloud integration into instagram is a value add by itself. Game streaming on their platform makes it more attractive compared to Snapchat, tiktok, or whatever else people are using.
Oh don't worry the FUDders will be back soon, and in greater numbers than before
I think they were hoping to get more streamers from Mixer into FB.
Lol you know that won't happen
strong ill informed statements are astrong currency now
B-but I thought we were naive fanboys for saying FB wouldn't be heavily integrated into Xbox and Xcloud!
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I believe Facebook got Gothalion, but their bids for Ninja and Shroud failed. I think the real reason is not not as much about getting Mixer partners, but more that partnering with Xbox will strengthen their gaming brand in general, while giving Xbox a powerful social platform to promote xCloud. It seems like a deal that really benefits both parties.
I use Facebook, I have xCloud beta currently on my phone, and I'm really eager to see how this is implemented on Facebook. Though I never truly believe Facebook would be intrusively pushed on Xbox, and I'm glad that has been confirmed.
A 40 page thread, most of them nowhere to be seen in this thread.
Also allows potential Facebook ads to promote click to play on many applications and websites.
I see. Thanks! Had no idea about the discussion from the previous thread tbh, but it's good to see this.
That's nice of them to clear that up early, before bad PR through word of mouth on reddit and message boards like ERA, leading into articles from known news outlets.
They're trying to avoid another May 2013, as much as they can, and I hope they do. Good luck to them.
They're trying to avoid another May 2013, as much as they can, and I hope they do. Good luck to them.
Glad that Phil and Major Nelson cleared this up fast, and great job on being very concise about it. This was a concern of mine and I would absolutely have not bought one if the integration was the same.
Haha, all the posts in this thread are spot on. The FUD machine was rolling hard. Like, past the point of concern trolling kinda hard. This was common sense to just about everyone. I'm sure people were legitimately concerned but it's probably like a 1% ratio, lol. If that.
You'd be surprised the mental gymnastics people force their brain into performing. I'm pretty sure these guys never thought they'd have to actually explain this, but here we are.
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You'd be surprised the mental gymnastics people force their brain into performing. I'm pretty sure these guys never thought they'd have to actually explain this, but here we are.
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I bet this thread won't attract as much attention.
At least it's good for MS to clarify.
Unless someone finds another way to concern trolling
At least it's good for MS to clarify.
Lots of postings were very deliberate. It's gonna be a rough time on this board up to November. And the truth is, this thread will reach four pages or something. Outrage, even when unsubstantial, is always easier.
At most to use click to play features on websites as an example or stream via Facebook Gaming you will need to link your account to Facebook just like you do for EA games. Ideally it's a choice.
That's really good to hear. Was really concerned about how much MS was going to get involved with Facebook.
Facebook is a terrible company, and I want nothing to do with them, and I want them to have nothing to do with any of the consoles.
Edit: Sweet jesus, this thread is really something.
Facebook is a terrible company, and I want nothing to do with them, and I want them to have nothing to do with any of the consoles.
Edit: Sweet jesus, this thread is really something.
It's a damn shame MS has to be explicit and explain everything to these people like they're children lest the FUD spreads. I'm especially disappointed in people with large online followings who spread FUD and who really should know better. They basically confirm that there is a double standard in how they approach MS vs Sony news.
It's pathetic it even has to be that way.
Also, this thread is moving so slow. Guess good news means no chance to concern troll.
It's pathetic it even has to be that way.
Also, this thread is moving so slow. Guess good news means no chance to concern troll.
You could always stream to Twitch since the app was launched in the early years of Xbox One. When they acquired Beam/Mixer and integrated it into the UI it was always an option. It just wasn't as upfront or focal.
Apparently members expressing genuine concern are labeled as trolls instead. I understand the legitimate concerns with anything related to Facebook.
Good that Microsoft clarified.
Why is this "as expected"...? This is a good move, and does reflect the open-platform approach MS has been providing, but it could have gone horribly different too.
Listen, I'm not comfortable chastising everyone who was concerned yesterday. While in my opinion, there is no doubt that a large portion of people tried to spin the story into a console wars thing, some other people had genuine concerns. I'm glad these concerns have been addressed.
Just looking through that thread, I think it's clear enough that certain people took advantage of the situation to push their own agenda. Again, I'm just really excited to see how this is all implemented. This seems like a HUGE deal for the Xbox brand. And since I mentioned "console wars" I'm curious if Sony makes a move in this space, and what that might be. Can't wait!
Just looking through that thread, I think it's clear enough that certain people took advantage of the situation to push their own agenda. Again, I'm just really excited to see how this is all implemented. This seems like a HUGE deal for the Xbox brand. And since I mentioned "console wars" I'm curious if Sony makes a move in this space, and what that might be. Can't wait!
well not surprising, it's the same ones blindly following Microsoft and don't ever want anything said about them.
It's the the nature of the beast at this point. When companies make an announcement, they've gotta be cognizant of the FUD that will generate if left unchecked.
Dealing with a company like Facebook, I think they should have anticipated people will jump to crazy conclusions.
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No it's insane that anyone concerned was attacked and labeled a troll by some because they wanna blindly defend.
That Verge article did not mention anything about Xbox. The main focus was on transitioning Mixer streamers and introducing xCloud to FB users. It's just another deal for MS to expand beyond consoles. Now you can game on Samsung TVs and FB.
Y'all didn't read and automatically assumed the worst.
I read and with Facebook, it's better to assume the worst. Putting fingers in your ears and pretend makes you look like a fool
because thinking you would need a facebook login to turn your xbox on like facebook just bought microsoft was totally a legitimate, real concern that people had
it's one thing to be concerned about facebook integration on the dash replacing mixer (i was as well) and other to believe bullshit like forced facebook logins to even use the console
I don't know why anyone would have that first thought but at least both were addressed. I only believed it would be taking the place of mixer but it would be front and centre. I'm really glad they addressed it and it's good to go.
I'm the one being calm and explaining why it wasn't gonna be what you thought and you went into full panic mode. MS didn't force Mixer on you and there was no indication that FB would have been forced on you.
War never changes.
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I wonder why...
I didn't think that would be necessary, but you are probably right. The thread yesterday was a mess.
Some of them surely were concern trolls, but obviously not everyone. But it's still crazy to even think Facebook would be all over the dashboard, when they talked about xCloud iirc and Microsoft under Nadella showed a million times options are key for them and Spencer says on basically every interview, that they want to let gamers play whenever, with whoever on the devices they want. Why would anyone think they limit the option to FB and you need a FB account? That was conspiracy theory territory.
Did people really think a partnership would result in less options with the new Microsoft? Xbox games are on Steam and Xbox partnered with Discord and Samsung before. But you don't have to have a Discord Account and you don't have to have a samsung device to use xCloud. It runs fine on other android smartphones and even iOS devices.
It baffles my mind how many thought FB would in any shape or form be the only option and heavily integrated on Series X, considering all these decisions Microsoft made under Nadella.
This is good news, but I shouldn't have to find this out on this forum tbh. This should've been well communicated from the start.