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Marvel Rivals Announcement Trailer - Free 2 Play, May Beta on Steam and EGS

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Yeah, a lot of my issues stem from the audio and visual design. Like I always know what's going on in Overwatch, feel like I'm having to eyeball my ult meter over in the corner there.

Otherwise, yes, this feels like any Overwatch match when this happens

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brooklynb_jp said:
Watching people play makes it seem like the game will likely have the Overwatch open queue problem of hoping people on your team will play the roles or characters necessary to win
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Yep. It's getting pretty frustrating being the first to load in, picking a dps character and then watching 3-4 other teammates do the same. It's like "Great, guess I'm not winning this match.." Give me role queue asap.
 
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Yep. It's getting pretty frustrating being the first to load in, picking a dps character and then watching 3-4 other teammates do the same. It's like "Great, guess I'm not winning this match.." Give me role queue asap.
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I dunno, I kinda like the flexibility. I've had games where I was playing a support and our team was struggling to capture an objective then I switch to a DPS for extra damage and we push through and win the game. That kind of on-the-fly decision making gets lost with role queue.
 
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I dunno, I kinda like the flexibility. I've had games where I was playing a support and our team was struggling to capture an objective then I switch to a DPS for extra damage and we push through and win the game. That kind of on-the-fly decision making gets lost with role queue.
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The 1% of the time it works out in your favor doesn't override the other 99% of the time where your team is completely inflexible and you lose because your team comp is atrocious.

Edit: thought I was in the Overwatch OT 😂
 
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SDBurton said:
Yep. It's getting pretty frustrating being the first to load in, picking a dps character and then watching 3-4 other teammates do the same. It's like "Great, guess I'm not winning this match.." Give me role queue asap.
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Yeah, only way I'm sticking with the game longer term is if role queue comes in. I'm already sick of 6 DPS.

Just do it like Overwatch and make open queue a separate mode.
 
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Yep. It's getting pretty frustrating being the first to load in, picking a dps character and then watching 3-4 other teammates do the same. It's like "Great, guess I'm not winning this match.." Give me role queue asap.
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If you check out discord chat or some threads on reddit, a lot of people are against it.
So many just despise it from Overwatch, and they blame role queue for making them and others quit.
 
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If you check out discord chat or some threads on reddit, a lot of people are against it.
So many just despise it from Overwatch, and they blame role queue for making them and others quit.
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I just don't understand why. Open queue for both competitive and quick play is right there. If that made you quit, then options are bad or something?
 
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AlecKoKuTan said:
People playing can generate a code daily. Hit lv 6 on Friday but didn't realize I could generate a code till yesterday. Sent one to an overwatch streamer who may hate the game 😂
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Well, you can if there's some left. There's a daily limit to who can grab one and they go up at 5pm PT
 
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God I'm so over some of the yells. There also needs to be different enemy and team ult yells.

I think it's scarlet witch yelling YOOOOOOOOO half the match and I hate it
 
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I'm not going to be too concerned with the balance of a game that's currently in alpha, but some of the hitscan heroes in this game can be legit frustrating to deal with lol
- Punisher's shotgun and ult have absolutely bonkers damage. In a brawl, even a semi-decent Punisher will absolutely wreck the enemy team. His assault rifle tickles by comparison and really only serves to build charge for his ult, which is like if you gave Bastion's turret form sniper-rifle level accuracy.
- Star-Lord's primary is also pretty dangerous and his ult is similarly broken.
- Hela is definitely the Cassidy of the game with her very strong primary and OK-ish abilities. She's great for picking off flying heroes like Iron Man or Wanda.

Also role queue is essential if you want to practice a DPS hero and don't want to spend all match in spawn because so does everybody else. Like, Marvel Rivals finally gave me a support hero I love to play (Loki), and I'll be a Magneto stan 'till the end of time, but I also wanna get good at Hela damn it!
 
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Yeh the opposing team needs different voice lines for Ults for sure. My biggest complaint in general is readability. So much gets lost in the chaos and the teams sharing Ult lines doesn't help. Should I or shouldn't I be running away when Scarlet Witch uses ult??? Beats me there's one in each team!
 
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Log! said:
I'm not going to be too concerned with the balance of a game that's currently in alpha, but some of the hitscan heroes in this game can be legit frustrating to deal with lol
- Punisher's shotgun and ult have absolutely bonkers damage. In a brawl, even a semi-decent Punisher will absolutely wreck the enemy team. His assault rifle tickles by comparison and really only serves to build charge for his ult, which is like if you gave Bastion's turret form sniper-rifle level accuracy.
- Star-Lord's primary is also pretty dangerous and his ult is similarly broken.
- Hela is definitely the Cassidy of the game with her very strong primary and OK-ish abilities. She's great for picking off flying heroes like Iron Man or Wanda.

Also role queue is essential if you want to practice a DPS hero and don't want to spend all match in spawn because so does everybody else. Like, Marvel Rivals finally gave me a support hero I love to play (Loki), and I'll be a Magneto stan 'till the end of time, but I also wanna get good at Hela damn it!
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Punisher is ridiculous. I don't care how long his weapon switch takes, being Soldier 76 and Reaper in one is disgusting. Especially with no recoil on the primary weapon. If they made that turret hitscan so he could be Bastion as well.....

I'm probably using assualt rifle 70% of the time and it still melts if you get headshots.
 
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Yeh the opposing team needs different voice lines for Ults for sure. My biggest complaint in general is readability. So much gets lost in the chaos and the teams sharing Ult lines doesn't help. Should I or shouldn't I be running away when Scarlet Witch uses ult??? Beats me there's one in each team!
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Yeah I feel the same way. It's even worse when both Scarlet Witches ult at the same time and you see two red exclamation marks and you're not sure which to be shooting at.

Speaking of ults, how does Magneto's ult work? Does it charge up damage over time? Or should I just fire it immediately? Does it also absorb damage that's fired at me? Not entirely sure how I should be using it.
 

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Are the inflexible people here complaining about others being inflexible actively trying to break this thread with all the irony or are they just that oblivious?
 
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mouser said:
Are the inflexible people here complaining about others being inflexible actively trying to break this thread with all the irony or are they just that oblivious?
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I'm happy to play any role, but I'm not being the only healer or tank if everyone else is DPS.

If only there was a way to declare your role before playing.... Like some king of "role queue" or some such thing.
 
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I dont know if this is right place but, where do we get keys? Are they random drop or just very limited access?
 
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I dont know if this is right place but, where do we get keys? Are they random drop or just very limited access?
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Very limited. There is some streamer random drop at some point, or people get one code each, if there's any left by the time they apply. And that's now it.
 
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From my observations only, Duelist wise
  1. Punisher and Hela seem overtuned.
  2. Wanda no aim move needs slight nerf.
  3. Spidey needs a dmg boost but nothing crazy or else he'll be oppressive.
  4. BP seems like he needs something but honestly can't tell I've seen ppl going off with him.
  5. Storm and Iron Man need some help badly
 
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tjh282 said:
From my observations only, Duelist wise
  1. Punisher and Hela seem overtuned.
  2. Wanda no aim move needs slight nerf.
  3. Spidey needs a dmg boost but nothing crazy or else he'll be oppressive.
  4. BP seems like he needs something but honestly can't tell I've seen ppl going off with him.
  5. Storm and Iron Man need some help badly
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Mostly agreed, although I think on your 5th point that Storm and Iron Man would be helped just by tuning Hela and Punisher hitscan down.
 
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Yeah, only way I'm sticking with the game longer term is if role queue comes in. I'm already sick of 6 DPS.

Just do it like Overwatch and make open queue a separate mode.
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Agreed.

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If you check out discord chat or some threads on reddit, a lot of people are against it.
So many just despise it from Overwatch, and they blame role queue for making them and others quit.
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But OW has Open Queue for those that want it. Having more options should be a good thing.

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Potential hot take: Does anyone else think Magik is kinda meh as a DPS? I'm of the opinion that they may need to re-work her somewhat. Her current portals have a very short travel distance which makes escaping or engaging with her difficult and her legit portal being locked behind a team-up ability (Black Panther) is kinda lame. I dunno, she already has it rough as a melee against ranged and flying characters, it's like why put in all that work when you can shut of your brain and pick Star-Lord, Punisher, Scarlet Witch, etc.
 
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Potential hot take: Does anyone else think Magik is kinda meh as a DPS? I'm of the opinion that they may need to re-work her somewhat. Her current portals have a very short travel distance which makes escaping or engaging with her difficult and her legit portal being locked behind a team-up ability (Black Panther) is kinda lame. I dunno, she already has it rough as a melee against ranged and flying characters, it's like why put in all that work when you can shut of your brain and pick Star-Lord, Punisher, Scarlet Witch, etc.
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Yeah, she needs a lot of tuning. Also I really dislike the impact of the melee characters. I can barely feel like I'm hitting anyone.
 
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I'm happy to play any role, but I'm not being the only healer or tank if everyone else is DPS.

If only there was a way to declare your role before playing.... Like some king of "role queue" or some such thing.
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Kinda surprised they went this route instead of just making every character different flavors of DPS. OW used to be part of an MMO, so having the trinity isn't odd. Rivals didn't really have that obligation outside of just being wanting to be like OW.
 
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When I put textures on high or above, I am getting nasty micro stutters pretty frequently.

Despite not being near the Vram limit (game is at like 6.5k ish).

And on medium, most of it looks good but stuff like some decals load a bit late, which is okay, but then you have monitors on tokyo 2099 just flat out not loading randomly and it's really ugly beyond tolerable.


So I hope things can improve a bit =( .
 
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Yeah I feel the same way. It's even worse when both Scarlet Witches ult at the same time and you see two red exclamation marks and you're not sure which to be shooting at.

Speaking of ults, how does Magneto's ult work? Does it charge up damage over time? Or should I just fire it immediately? Does it also absorb damage that's fired at me? Not entirely sure how I should be using it.
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It charges up over time. If you look you can see the ball get bigger and bigger. So fire it near the end.
 
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That Dude John said:
Kinda surprised they went this route instead of just making every character different flavors of DPS. OW used to be part of an MMO, so having the trinity isn't odd. Rivals didn't really have that obligation outside of just being wanting to be like OW.
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I mean it's not liked OW invented class-based PvP. The grandfather of the hero shooter genre is TF2 - the dps/healer/tank trinity is arguably baked into the genre's DNA.
 
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I mean it's not liked OW invented class-based PvP. The grandfather of the hero shooter genre is TF2 - the dps/healer/tank trinity is arguably baked into the genre's DNA.
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Yeah, but I don't think the audience these modern entries go for are the sort that care to engage with the format without forcing it. OW had to lock the roles down and it's odd they didn't already do it here unless they were paying zero attention to what happened across the street.
 
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Yeah, but I don't think the audience these modern entries go for are the sort that care to engage with the format without forcing it. OW had to lock the roles down and it's odd they didn't already do it here unless they were paying zero attention to what happened across the street.
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It's more like they believe that 'what happened across the street' wasn't necessary. It feels like they've very intentionally recreating the format of launch Overwatch. Open queue. 6v6. Five tanks. Four supports. Majority of characters DPS. Control, Escort, and Hybrid all recreated.

There's obviously plenty of differences, like the third person perspective, the Team-Up gimmick, the destructible environments. But in a lot of ways they've built the game that bitter ex-Overwatch fans say they want. It's an interesting experiment.
 
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it's such a shame, this game could've learned a lot from the troubled development of OW1/2 and the valid complaints players like myself had about the game but instead it seems they are doomed to repeat the same mistakes lol. I won't be surprised if this game devolves into GOATs and the other stale metas that OW had.

Also the dev team is going to play vs some ex pro OW players today that even Blizzard doesn't associate with anymore, like sinatraa, the alleged rapist. Again, it feels like head in the sand type of shit. rooting for the team but can't help feel like the foundation is flawed in the same way OW was and is.
 
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Storm is actually "good" I would say, but you gotta not fly around by yourself and play closer to the ground so your healers can reasonably get you 99% of the time (the 1% of the time being when the enemy team doesn't have one of the good hitscan chars).

Her speed boost is super powerful and empowered damage boost puts out a ton of damage with the extra lightning strikes it does. Main thing is she's borderline a support, she's there to make Hela/Punisher/et al more annoying with her giga damage buff.

Storm's problem to me is more of an identity crisis, she's basically the sole character whose kit does not remotely fit what I would think of when I think Storm. Her ultimate is great, her right click is....okay...., but everything else is so off.
 
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tjh282 said:
Pretty wild to see Slaythe randomly on Emongg's stream lol Iron Man's flight speed should be faster
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I don't know who that is I've on a streak of terrible random queues sadly.

This game is brutal I go from great matches to two dudes refusing to play their roles and we get perma gang banged. =(

Ran into Beardlini and it was a bad match too the Wanda had 3 kills total, we gotta play again.

And I'm literally playing Healer or Tank to let others play their DPS but yeah ...

They gotta get Wolverine out ASAP so that tanks are more lively lol. And Magneto a solo shield if not aimed at allies + 97 skin.
 
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For anyone playing, do many of the characters feel unique to play re: mechanics? The vibe I've gotten so far from streams is that some play like Overwatch characters mix-and-matched (Storm looked like Lucio but with damage instead of heals, Star-Lord looked like Tracer with Reaper's ult, etc).
 
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