That's funny I've been pretty impressed with how consistently close my matches have been. I get a few stomps here and there but so far matchmaking has been miles better than anything I saw in Overwatch.
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They're an ex-Overwatch pro (it may have been a different name, I've been looking at a screen all day between work and trying to get a code), but yeah from what I recall you were on offense on escort and the team was struggling hard
The game does feel very Overwatch-brained in that sense - there's clearly a reverence to Overwatch 1 at least and it wouldn't surprise me if "restoring" that in some shape or form was to some degree intentional. It's hard to even call it a bad idea given the clear praise it's been getting by the louder folks online, though we'll see how it actually pans out.
As for the classes overall I honestly don't mind too much - it helps ensure a good deal of variety in how different characters operate and opens the door for more team-based gameplay. Without that it kinda turns into R6 Siege where everyone overlaps in kill options and only really differs by what offensive/defensive utility they're pulling in.
Personally I'm just waiting for when they announce the PvE mode with Talent Trees.
Because if there's a game that's easily setup to do a PvE mode with Talent Trees its one based in comic books using Galactica to summon heroes to different timelines and stuff. You have tons of comic book plots to work off of, and superheroes REALLY lend themselves to talent trees with a rich history to pull from.
Because if there's a game that's easily setup to do a PvE mode with Talent Trees its one based in comic books using Galactica to summon heroes to different timelines and stuff. You have tons of comic book plots to work off of, and superheroes REALLY lend themselves to talent trees with a rich history to pull from.
Okay, yeah this Frank Castle fella seems kinda cracked. I've been spending most of my time trying to figure out how to get decent with Wanda, Magik and Luna because I like those characters a lot outside the game, but in the spirit of trying to play as everyone I can in the Alpha I gave Punisher a whirl and goddamn.
Okay, yeah this Frank Castle fella seems kinda cracked. I've been spending most of my time trying to figure out how to get decent with Wanda, Magik and Luna because I like those characters a lot outside the game, but in the spirit of trying to play as everyone I can in the Alpha I gave Punisher a whirl and goddamn.
It helps they have pretty much the worst team possible against Punisher.
Something like Groot/Doctor Strange/Hela/Punisher or Star Lord or Namor/Luna Snow/Loki would have given you a much harder time.
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Some things I've learned in the practice range.
- Hulk can cling to walls if you hold jump before reaching a wall that you jumped to. Probably an essential part of his kit since there's so much flying and movement. Also makes it harder for enemies to laser him down before the engage
- I understand why no one is playing Peni, this is a character you take into the practice range for a week and then reappear with tech that no one has seen lol I kinda love it
Have a feeling Vanguard will be my role of choice, but we shall see!
EDIT: I've also noticed that Hulk's ult seems very underwhelming at first. Then you realize you can charge jump while doing other actions, so you can combo your enemies with multiple melee attacks before using your ranged attacks or finisher. If you can land your stun, that's a decent opening for jumping in and grabbing your enemy as well.
I think basically all of the characters that have been determined to be weak are somewhat complex and/or require a decent amount of practice. Maybe not Namor though, his kit seems very straightforward...
I guess that doesn't change the fact that some characters are very strong with little effort though.
- Hulk can cling to walls if you hold jump before reaching a wall that you jumped to. Probably an essential part of his kit since there's so much flying and movement. Also makes it harder for enemies to laser him down before the engage
- I understand why no one is playing Peni, this is a character you take into the practice range for a week and then reappear with tech that no one has seen lol I kinda love it
Have a feeling Vanguard will be my role of choice, but we shall see!
EDIT: I've also noticed that Hulk's ult seems very underwhelming at first. Then you realize you can charge jump while doing other actions, so you can combo your enemies with multiple melee attacks before using your ranged attacks or finisher. If you can land your stun, that's a decent opening for jumping in and grabbing your enemy as well.
I think basically all of the characters that have been determined to be weak are somewhat complex and/or require a decent amount of practice. Maybe not Namor though, his kit seems very straightforward...
I guess that doesn't change the fact that some characters are very strong with little effort though.
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The best thing about Hullk is that he can clothesline flyers right out the fucking air and it's so satisfying.
I have been playing as Magneto a lot. Sometimes it clicks, but sometimes he just feels way too weak. His attack speed needs to be faster I think. And his ult needs to do way more damage. His shield is also pretty useless. It doesn't last long enough and the cooldown is weirdly high for what it is.
On the competitive side, I somehow won 5 games in a row with randoms tonight. Made it to silver 2. Hopefully I can get to gold before the end of the test for silver. I was able to join a faction that is entering the tournament, but I put as a backup player.
It's fun getting matched up with one person who is just god tier at one character to see how they play. I was with a spider-man earlier who was destroying the entire enemy team and they couldn't do anything. he was so fast swinging around. Then the next match I was with a hulk who would just go charging in every time and somehow not die. Jumping around constantly and stuff.
On the competitive side, I somehow won 5 games in a row with randoms tonight. Made it to silver 2. Hopefully I can get to gold before the end of the test for silver. I was able to join a faction that is entering the tournament, but I put as a backup player.
It's fun getting matched up with one person who is just god tier at one character to see how they play. I was with a spider-man earlier who was destroying the entire enemy team and they couldn't do anything. he was so fast swinging around. Then the next match I was with a hulk who would just go charging in every time and somehow not die. Jumping around constantly and stuff.
We're gonna see some god-like Hulks doing exactly this regularly, and I'm absolutely here for it.
Based on the cooldown, I feel like that Magento shield is intended to be less of a normal shield and more of a get-out-of-jail-free ability, which is definitely confusing.
Like if you see an ult coming, you can shield to negate it or buy time and get out. If a teammate gets stunned and you don't have the bubble, you can save them from certain death. Not quite as useful as a shield should be but perhaps very satisfying to use correctly?
Mags is actually fantastic with Tanks like Hulk and Groot from what I've seen. Anyone that can frontline and keep the heat off of him so he can poke and get the most out of his cooldowns. He does a ton of damage as well it's just hard to land. He's also decent at peeling but not as good as some of the other Tanks.
On his own, I think he's pretty weak and Strange fill the role better as a 2nd Tank. He should be allowed to Bubble Shield people from much further away because the current range makes no sense and is way too short. His ult is straight-up trash as well. I just use it to take height, if I kill something in the process that's a bonus.
To the last part of your post. I've seen this too. I'll try a hero and think they're garbage then see someone go like 24-0 on them the next game. Shit is crazy. Now there are totally heroes that are OP or undertuned but thankfully counter picking isn't heavy in this game yet. That can change in time but the game does truly reward for really putting the time in on your mains.
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The more I play it, the more I hope it comes together, but it just needs so much work from even a fundemntal design point that I'm surprised they thought this was the direction it should go. It feels like time and money are at a premium now and thye're just kind of throwing mechanics out there.
It can be fun to fuck around with, so I hope I'm wrong. And I'm still going to grind out that level 30 skin just in case they do manage to turn it around.
It can be fun to fuck around with, so I hope I'm wrong. And I'm still going to grind out that level 30 skin just in case they do manage to turn it around.
Namor isn't even weak per se, but he's meant for a poke comp that tries to poke for kills and then wombo combo ultimates and doesn't really slot in nicely with any other comp. If you're doing something more organized, he's REALLY good for poke comp. For solo play where everyone is fuck it we balling...yea.....
I can see that. I mean, I actually don't like the feel of most of the DPS characters, but I do actually like him, so I'm hoping he's somewhat viable, but he strikes me as a very slow, defensive character in a game where everyone either does high damage or is flying at you at the speed of light 😅
I'll have to give him a try tonight if I'm not having too much fun with Peni and Hulk
It almost assuredly is, just an unfortunate but expected downside of a licensed property, especially one that is not just Marvel now but also Disney. They are super controlling of their brands. We could never have visual gear in Marvel Heroes or Marvel's Avengers (just skins) because they absolutely refused to allow the characters to look any different other than the signed off looks.
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26.7 KO's every 10 mins. Whew.
Yeah, it's a joke and a shame. Like I'd love a game that could let me mix and match some cosmetics, but only being able to have an animation because you have the right skin is going to be stupidly limiting.
Yeah, it's a joke and a shame. Like I'd love a game that could let me mix and match some cosmetics, but only being able to have an animation because you have the right skin is going to be stupidly limiting.
So I take it the game doesn't have AFK kicking?
But brother, I tried
I experienced a few AFKs in the last few days and they were eventually kicked, but it took a super long time. Unless they just disconnected on their own.
Playing healers is fun and cool but I just can't f'n find any fun in playing the attackers here. Playing Reaper or Soldier in Overwatch is easy and fun, but here playing something similar in Punisher is..... punishing. It is awful. His normal rifle feels like absolute garbage, sprays all over the place and doesn't do damage to anyone, if you have guys like Scarlet Witch and Dr. Strange as enemies they fly to you, laugh in your face and snap you dead like they're Thanos. His smoke is like 1 and a half second and feels useless too.
I don't see how anyone can call him overpowered, his pump-gun isn't too bad but his normal rifle is just miserable to use.
I don't see how anyone can call him overpowered, his pump-gun isn't too bad but his normal rifle is just miserable to use.
Alright, I've played two games as Namor and absolutely rolled the enemy both times lol I think he might be fine
I really like Peni, but boy does she need a good team. You're not gonna be carrying with her, I don't think
And the fact that characters can walk backwards away from you at the same speed that you're trying to run at them and melee makes characters like Hulk pretty tough to use. If you don't jump right on the enemy or stun them, you're just gonna eat a bunch of damage and whiff your punches...
I really like Peni, but boy does she need a good team. You're not gonna be carrying with her, I don't think
And the fact that characters can walk backwards away from you at the same speed that you're trying to run at them and melee makes characters like Hulk pretty tough to use. If you don't jump right on the enemy or stun them, you're just gonna eat a bunch of damage and whiff your punches...
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He feels OP to me. I use assault rifle most of the time and I come out of matches disappointed if I don't have the most kills by at least 10. Gotta aim for the head.
But I'm the complete opposite of you with healing. I don't get enough feedback as a healer in this game like I do OW so I don't really want to do it.
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Yeah, that was the issue I was having with Hela as well. Let me retreat dammit.
Maybe it's because I'm playing on controller and the controls are currently just bad and inaccurate for it then. Cause the controller assistance is on max I think, which is standard, but there simply is none, none that I could feel at least. So aiming for the head is terribly difficult here. :D
Nah Punisher is probably the best DPS. Basically deletes flyers with less effort than any other character. And his shotgun is just nasty. Directly counters magik, and if you have a Magneto paying attention the bubbles make him invincible while he gets in close.
Me and my cousin have been cranking out wins with the Magneto/Punisher combo.
Punisher's AR has very little spread or recoil, and if you use him like old Soldier 76 and shoot 4 bullets let go and refire he has no spread.
I think I'm liking BP more than Spider Man. Having his dash attack immediately refresh on marked enemies can make quick work of them. I just wish his wall jump propelled you farther off a little bit more. Like a springboard.
I feel like that's how it works in a lot of games where dashing is an ability ie the direction you're moving is the direction you'll dash *not* the direction you're looking.
Punisher is definitely a beast. Only thing that needs fixing is his zip line. His primary has been great for picking off flying characters.
I feel like that's how it works in a lot of games where dashing is an ability ie the direction you're moving is the direction you'll dash *not* the direction you're looking.
Punisher is definitely a beast. Only thing that needs fixing is his zip line. His primary has been great for picking off flying characters.
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Oh yeah, that could be a factor for sure. I really doubt the aim assist is implemented right now!
God that zipline. The amount of times I just jump into a wall…..
My biggest area of frustration is Spider-Man having an incredibly high skill floor and being the most popular Super Hero. 90% of matches if you have a Spider-Man on the team that's a loss. The sheer dread of loading in and your team mate insta-locking Spidey is something else.
I think Punisher could use a nerf, but to compensate they allow everyone on the team to use his zip line (yes this would make Majik busted but as someone who loves Majik it works out 😏). And I know it's alpha but my word that zip line is janky.
I think Punisher could use a nerf, but to compensate they allow everyone on the team to use his zip line (yes this would make Majik busted but as someone who loves Majik it works out 😏). And I know it's alpha but my word that zip line is janky.
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Competitive shooter for sure
I was against a really good Spider harassing the supports. Had to basically stick with them with the Punisher shotgun and delete him until they changed.
But yeah, the bad ones are so squishy that it is just having an AFK person on the team almost.
It won't fix everything because his zipline is just buggy, but highly recommend going to Controls -> select Punisher in the top left -> change the sensitivity of the Zipline so that it actually just goes where you aim at rather than having aim assist because the default aim assist is stupid on it.
(Likewise if anyone wants to actually get good at Spider-Man, disable automatic web slinging in a similar way and prepare to learn something harder than Spider-Man 2's web slinging)
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Well now i need a code :(
Overwatch is still my shooter of choice after all this time and a large part of that is the heroes/light heartedness. I miss COD games like BO3 of that era for having super abilities. Just plain fun to press Q and get a big fat kill.
definitely hope to see it include role queue, I worry the fanbase will be toxic, Overwatch has a lot in place to curb toxic players at least on PC.
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Part of the reason why I haven't been able to use him much. I know it's only casuals and it's alpha, but he's got as big a learning curve as Penny.
Lol. Figured. But with the superhero theme i expect to see a lot younger and diverse audience get into this game.
Im getting the feeling this will be a really popular game if the mechanics sound as competent as it appears
Yeh basically gotta bully the fuck outa them when they are at least decent
My main concern (and someone who has played, please let me know) is that your character seems to take up a lot of the screen. There are clips where the player is jumping and covers the aiming reticle. I understand why they made it 3rd person (gotta sell those skins, and people buy cooler skins if they can see them), but does it hurt the gameplay at all?
I really haven't had an issue with screen real estate, although I feel fov should be larger. I don't think there's an fov slider in the game.
I'm legit concerned Spidey may be too toxically designed to really adjust much, or at least easily. His whole difficulty curve is around learning how to web-swing, web-zip, and use the walls properly. A good Spider-Man is playing a different game - he can jump in, burst someone down, and jump out all while being near-impossible to actually hit due to how quickly he's zipping around everywhere. I'm struggling to see how you make him easier to play without also making him completely busted.
Like, Black Panther has a lot of problems but they're easy problems: he's designed too much around setting up marks to use his dash and needs some combination of more damage, more health, and more mobility options to be the close-ranged assassin he's supposed to be. With Spider-Man the issues feel a lot harder to resolve because they're so tied to his core mechanics.
Like, Black Panther has a lot of problems but they're easy problems: he's designed too much around setting up marks to use his dash and needs some combination of more damage, more health, and more mobility options to be the close-ranged assassin he's supposed to be. With Spider-Man the issues feel a lot harder to resolve because they're so tied to his core mechanics.