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I mean less PC people having a PS5 make sense there less PS5 out there compare to PS4.
Th more interesting data would be if we had a time frame .
Th more interesting data would be if we had a time frame .
Yeah 8% seems pretty high considering how old the PS5 is vs the PS4 and how impossible it is to get a PS5
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Oh sweet it's already time for some more brain swelling arguments with the 'ports are actually ads for sequels on PS5' crowd
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Sounds like 2/3s will be waiting X years for ports, none of which will be Bloodborne because life sucks.
So would this dispel any theory on Sony needing to release a pro console to combat pc game sales, or players spending more time on pc?
...those numbers are actually higher than I would have thought. I think Matt's conclusions are still sound though.
Given the high costs of a GPU right now, I'm not surprised some are buying a recent console to hold them over.
it's a commonly used argument by people who aren't really thinking it out as much as they think they have
People downplay the convenience of playing games on consoles. A lot of hardcore Resetera gamerz would probably be cool shifting to PC only if they could get Sony 1P on day 1… but I don't think the same is true for your average PlayStation console owner
Sony straight up said that though. Times (and contexts) were different then, I think.
I owed a ps4 pro for a bit, till I realize it's not a console for me when I own a pc that had majority of the library shared with the ps4 and then some. It was a waste of money for me.
Exactly what I was thinking as well. I'd assume it'd be like 15-20% or something.
I wonder what the Xbox numbers are. Someone should ask him.
I'm of a strong opinion that we will not see pro consoles this time around, just slim variations.
I did exactly this simply because it was easier to get a PS5 rather than a 3080.
Though my PC can still play modern games just fine so that's another reason I've not upgraded yet.
1/3rd doesn't seem too high to me at all.
Like... you all realize how long the PS4 has been on the market, right?
The console will be a decade old soon. It's been available (often relatively inexpensively) for a looong time.
Like... you all realize how long the PS4 has been on the market, right?
The console will be a decade old soon. It's been available (often relatively inexpensively) for a looong time.
You do have to remember that this is US figures, so it's likely going to be among the highest overlap between PC gamers and console gamers. I do think we can put the idea that there's a significant overlap between console gamers and PC gamers worldwide into the bin.
Has the PC audience increased from say, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago?
While this is just a FEELING, it feels like the PC crowd has gained largely in part by the rise of streaming and its popularity.
Since building a PC, and playing games on there, its becoming an increasingly better value in my own opinion. Only the ecosystem of Playstation has led me to stay on there, however I'm slowly pulling away due to being able to do what I can do on console plus more.
With that said, the reason why I bring up the increase in PC crowd question is, if in fact games start hitting day 1, I can see myself going more PC, as the only thing left IS Playstation first party games. It feels like a trickle into that direction, and I get why that twitter user brought up that question.
Consoles will forever be a simplistic closed box that anyone can use, but hell I will dare to ask... how much impact has the PC market had on the console market over the last few years.
While this is just a FEELING, it feels like the PC crowd has gained largely in part by the rise of streaming and its popularity.
Since building a PC, and playing games on there, its becoming an increasingly better value in my own opinion. Only the ecosystem of Playstation has led me to stay on there, however I'm slowly pulling away due to being able to do what I can do on console plus more.
With that said, the reason why I bring up the increase in PC crowd question is, if in fact games start hitting day 1, I can see myself going more PC, as the only thing left IS Playstation first party games. It feels like a trickle into that direction, and I get why that twitter user brought up that question.
Consoles will forever be a simplistic closed box that anyone can use, but hell I will dare to ask... how much impact has the PC market had on the console market over the last few years.
me too. Sony in 2014-15 when they were making Pro didn't know PS4 would do 18-21M a year. I imagine they're far less concerned about losing players to pc now
Absolutely. I own a gaming laptop and have my desktop hooked into my TV. I definitely game more on my PS5/Switch more than my PC's due to convenience. It's the little things that make it more convenient as when I boot up my computer I have to deal with a vast array of settings, random pop-ups, getting sidetracked, or even getting lost on Steam/Itch for hours at a time. Minor inconveniences compared to the ease of just starting your console.
The one thing this number doesn't tell us is who is classified as a pc gamer? I play hundreds of hours a year on my laptop, but for games like Among Us or other cheap, older games on steam. By hours played on a laptop I'm a "pc gamer" but I don't have anywhere near the kind of hardware that average "pc gamer" does.
Cause it means 2/3rds of the audience don't have access to your games. That's a pretty big number Sony is leaving on the table with their half assed maybe years down the road PC effort.
I legit read that last Twitter sentence as...
"People will keep buying consoles so long as a consoles provide convenience and ease of use while connected to the big shitty TV"
I spent the last 5 minutes laughing until I realised I misread it
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"People will keep buying consoles so long as a consoles provide convenience and ease of use while connected to the big shitty TV"
I spent the last 5 minutes laughing until I realised I misread it
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i'm not even sure how this is even a question anymore. they release some games, they did the math, then went and bought an entire dedicated PC porting company
Have all three, and I also have my main gaming PC hooked up to the "big shiny TV".
many, many people do that as well
farrrrrrrrr more don't want to do that
Well, the lower power PC gamer is actually a massive segment. It might be approached differently, but I don't think there's any harm in still calling them PC gamers.
I feel like the percentage comparison doesn't matter because the PS5 has supply issues and it has barely been out.
That said, it still is true that sales will not be cannibalized.
And I find it funny that the people who say that PS5 sales will be cannibalized are the same people who say PC gaming is not for them because of all the issues with it. If YOU'RE having issues with it, and YOU'RE still going to be playing on PS5, why assume that others won't do the same?
That said, it still is true that sales will not be cannibalized.
And I find it funny that the people who say that PS5 sales will be cannibalized are the same people who say PC gaming is not for them because of all the issues with it. If YOU'RE having issues with it, and YOU'RE still going to be playing on PS5, why assume that others won't do the same?